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We are well aware of Teachers and their 5 Hour days and 22 weeks a year holidays but This industrial action in Passport office is doing untold damage to the General Public with many families able to travel in many cases emigrate etc....Public servents better face facts more cuts are on the way as the country is unable to pay...i'd leave staff under 30K out of the equation but a cut of another 5% for those up to 45K and 7.5% for those in the 45 to 65K with 10% for 65K to 100K and 15% for all over 100K..........hard facts they got benchmarking when the country was booming now the countrys broke so cuts have to be implemented...
PS GO SLOW?...i thought most of them couldnt go any slower?
PS GO SLOW?...i thought most of them couldnt go any slower?
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JAYSUS....not more of the private sector good, hard-working------ public sector lazy feckin teachers,nurses incabable of work again!!!! The government is screwin us all over...... unless youre a director in aib, bank of ire. etc.
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bollocky you got benchmarking when things were good..ie 28% of a rise cumalative outside of national wage agreements...because you were comparing yourselves to the private sector...now the private sector worker you compared yourself too is unemployed, emigrating, commiting sucicide or working with a 50 % reduction in wages....so now you have to take negative benchmarking....the next cut will be more severe as the country wont have the money to keep paying the public sector bill...
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To be fair, i cant feel much pity for some of those clowns waiting for passports. If you leave something like that till the last minute, you get what you deserve.
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a neighbours son 20 .. had managed to secure a job thru a contact in canada but had to be there last monday to start...he had 3 weeks to try sort a passport but couldnt get his hands on it...job gone now....his father rang 36 times one day and phone just rang out...
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and why didnt he have a passport already?
Its a pretty basic thing which everyone should have. |
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Though if the government have any b*lls they would just sack them all en mass. I think the unions and employees at the passport office are a disgrace but have little time for those complaining about not getting a passport.
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Would you ever consider North Korea or maybe even Mugabes Zimbabwe........fire everyone and sure why not feckin shoot them as well while were at it!!
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The staff in these offices don't want this carry on, it's a thankless enough job working in a public office at the best of times.
They are missing out on overtime and thats bad enough in todays climate as part of the unions directive. |
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I worked in an African country in the 1970. The binmen went on strike. The army were called out, but they were not there to empty bins. The rifles were**ed, the bins got emptied. Strike over.
Ah the good old days. |
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Lol
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in my own town today I saw a women knacker driving a silver 2010 Mercedes!!
She must have at least ten kids, this is the only way I can see her paying for the car, a combination of childers allowances and sending the elder childers out in vans to the rural areas to go rip off feeble pensioners |
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ten kids is par for the course...and unlike the Working man Travellers get their child allowance reduction from the budget reimbursed in their weekly dole...travellers the only people with money in most towns
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Can anyone tell me why they don't just go on full strike ??
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They would not be paid if going on strike but are being at the moment.
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I'm always amused with idiots like timberman until i looked at boards.ie and seen thousands of posts about the public sector and a thread about seanie fitz receive a dozen replies , ample evidence that behan was right , and now i still laugh about timberman and his threads on a gambling forum.
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tobywong. 23 Mar 00:25
" I'm always amused with idiots like timberman until i looked at boards.ie and seen.... " Hard to believe this man is being paid to teach our kids |
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ho ho ho jolly another begrudger
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Toby are you working in the passport office LAUGHING at people outside?....Hope you'll still be laughing when they cut your overpaid wages again....
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Thanks Joe,
Does the union not pay their members when they are striking ? I mean surely the unions would have a big war- chest from the boom ? I think they are being very badly advised by their union bosses, this is going to back fire on them, and they will lose what little public support they may have had. The public are not going to blame the gov, they will blame the union and their members. In my opinion they should either strike or go back to work. Toby, i would have to agree with you on seanie and the lack of interest in what he has done compared to the level of interest in the public service debate. I think that the average person can't grasp that they are directly on the line for seanie his buddys and nama for that matter, they don't think it effects them :( |
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:^0 good old Paddy, free holidays at the passport office :^0
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Bomb scare at the passport office building :^0
Just in time for lunch. I'd sack the lot of them!!!! Everyone has hardship, they should be thankful to have jobs! |
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I borrowed this from another forum , it is hard to deny any of it:
When the government targeted and scapegoated the rank and file public servants for savage paycuts, they seem to forget that they actually do provide the services that keep this country functioning. So what do you expect when the 23 ministers go on 8 to 15 day junkets, when the bankers pay themselves bonuses, when NAMA give themselves pay increases before they start, advised by the very people who caused this mess in the first place, when the State Boards are filled with political cronies, when all regulations have been suspended for the past decade, when we build a monument to international tax evasion in the IFSC, when billions of tax payers money is handed over to corrupt and bankrupt banks, when the Sunday Indo et al blame the public servants, what do you really expect? Reaction is understandable. In this pantheon of failure, the public servants were the least of the contributors! |
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Yeah, but ....
.... the failures are in the past. Now we have to pay ourselves what we are worth. That is happening in industry. |
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Public servants are ALWAYS the least of the contributors.
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It's all about realism.
There is no doubt that public servants didn't directly cause the banks to collapse but everyone jumped on board the good ship Tiger and were happy to see their house price go up. Every sector be it public or private has or in the case of the public sector now has to face facts that as a country we aren't competitive at our current pay rates. Undoubtedly the average public sector contributes a good days work and deserves to be rewarded for it. The failure of management and the government to manage costs and structure does not mean public servant employees are expect from pay and pension decreases. The latter being the one in my opinion which needs to be changed dramatically. Realistically everyone in Ireland needs to accept pension and pay restructuring, the public sector can't hold the country to ransom on two fronts. Nothing happening because they are on strike and stifling any chance of a return to consistent growth by placing a massive lending burden on the country to pay for them. I don't blame them for striking but the party is over and they have to go back to work with a hangover. |
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Public Servents were quick enough to look for Benchmarking comparing themselves to the private sector now lets compare again and reduce wages by at least 20%
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the reality is that the state is borrowing approx 30% of public sector pay even after the cuts that have already been implemented. even when the economy starts to improve in a couple of years tax revenue will be nowhere near what it was during the bubble. public sector pay and pensions almost doubled in the last 8 years, which is testimony to the sheer incompetence and recklessness of the ahern era. i'm convinced there are still many poeople out there who still don't realise the scale of the bubble we were living in.
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To be fair the public who left their passport till the last minute have only themselves to blame for the predicament they are in.
My passport is out in september i will get a new one before then and i dont have a holiday planned for september either. |
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Forget about passports..its the whole public service are paid more than the country can afford...
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To be fair anyone under 30k isnt breaking the country , only if they are sitting on their rear reading the paper are they a waste of time.
The politicians in the senate and tds with pensions and expenses are no help at all The social welfare system is breaking the country not the public servants |
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Pay for play should be enforced. Hourly rates that some "public servants" are earning are astronomical.
These 2 week Easter holidays are mega. Lots of p.s's up in arms ringing Joe Duffy I have been told by a few lay about chums. |
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Tony to be fair you cant blame some public servants for taking a stand now. The politicians have 2 pensiions that they are entitled to if they retire , the politicians want everyone to keep working till 68 and they dont
Its not a level playing field and there are more nasty budgets promised There are loads of ways to trim and save money but the govt havent the balls to do it and possibly harm themselves |
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Many are earning too much money macrocky. With the guaranteed job security they should be hit harder and have their pension schemes moved to defined contribution. These pension payments are breaking the exchequer.
Unpalatable, but required medicine I'm afraid. |
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the wages have to come down
FOR ALL OF US not just the public sector, most in the private sector have taken pay cuts but i have yet to see doctor fees fall or dentist fees or solictors fees but above all we must demand, not just hope that the whole tds and senate sc am be shut down people like mary hanafin getting huge pensions through her td and her school job is just ridiclous theres a real mary antoinette about these politicians, they claim all these expenses and perks and then cut the rest of us and take away more and more off our income OFF WITH THEIR F FING HEADS!!!! lets get the guillotine ready outside leinster house before the feckers go on their easter break which will last till prob June |
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tony i know a guy who would have been private sector , when times were good id say himself and his wife were bringing in 2 grand a week nett into the house maybe some weeks it may have been more.
He is out of work now, but the likes of him cant say public sector are well treated as he probably made 3 times any public sector worker earned a few years ago Tradesmen and professionals made far more than any public sector worker when times were good, noone was queueing up to be a clerk or a postman or a welfare officer then. I think the govt must give themselves a look in the mirror and then the country will take cuts if deemed necessary. |
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Passport office workers are being treated disgracefully imho.
To have an employer go on national radio and "threaten" them shows the disregard this government has for the people. Truth is that 2/3 of the passport printers are being fixed and the ban on overtime pay has meant that a backlog has occured. This is completely the foreign affairs departments fault. Of course its all well and good for Martin et al to go on radio and moralise about wage cuts whilst himself, harney et al go on junkets in the name of St Patrick.... a disgrace. and as for the morons queing at the passport office. Learn how to prepare for a trip abroad in future instead of wailing. |
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Honeslty macrocky the pension situation is a crippler. Some eejits on here dont even know the value of this gold dust.
Not many employers in the private sector offer guaranteed pensions any longer - they are too costly. By the way I'm not getting at lower paid p.s's. Some of the staff with long service are earning ridiculous salaries compared to their younger more energetic innovative colleagues. |
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I see your point tony but i do think public sector workers are a easy target, you couldnt retire on a public service pension unless you are on serious money , grade 6 emloyees or management.
If i remember the rte programme on welfare fraud a few months ago it was argued there could be as much as 2 billion a year wasted in waste and fradulent and mismanaged claims annually That would have gone a long way towards tax cuts. There is hell to come , strikes are coming and the govt are going to have to be more innovative and intelligent in finding money as well as looking at areas like the senate, no more stupid inquiries where the lawyers/barristers clean up |
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cailini knows it all ;)
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