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Probably not .
But in Spain at present thats the formula for getting away from the unemployment "stigma" .
43% of Spaniards under 25 are unemployed .
These are fellow Europeans with lots of ties to Ireland . Hope this is not the way it may pan out here , but these are sobering figures . Only way I reckon we can "help" is by routing any tourism we wish to indulge in in their direction ( assuming it does not rob our own tourism industry too radically ) .
Got a preview of their parlous state 2 weeks ago when I discovered offers of self catering accomodation plus flights for £90 per person for a week in an attractive part of southern Spain ( coastal ) . At least they are taking prices down , anyone here doing likewise ?
But in Spain at present thats the formula for getting away from the unemployment "stigma" .
43% of Spaniards under 25 are unemployed .
These are fellow Europeans with lots of ties to Ireland . Hope this is not the way it may pan out here , but these are sobering figures . Only way I reckon we can "help" is by routing any tourism we wish to indulge in in their direction ( assuming it does not rob our own tourism industry too radically ) .
Got a preview of their parlous state 2 weeks ago when I discovered offers of self catering accomodation plus flights for £90 per person for a week in an attractive part of southern Spain ( coastal ) . At least they are taking prices down , anyone here doing likewise ?
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i bet they loved us voting for the lisbon treaty , europes cure all .
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I lived in Greece for a while and 600 was around the average in the lower tier of wages-digs was usually thrown in though.
working time directive on hours are universally ignored in the med though |
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of course i would, where are these jobs you speak off :|
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The piece I saw last night featured a uni graduate pruning roses for 600 euros a month .
Here in Ireland I know of one qualified vet from Poland ( I think ) employed full time here as a cleaner . Presumably he is being paid near minimum wage . Dont see many locals prepared to do that though . But its the real world out there ,and times are tough for anyone seeking employment . Glad I finished my stint 8 years ago . But tough for the younger people throughout Europe ( and the world ) . |
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the answer is no. welfare benefit would outweigh such a salary and included is usual perks such as medical card, travel cards, etc. I know of a galway based family, parents + 6 children, on 3150 per month benefit. That's 6 children that are never going to work, growing up in such a system
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the job is a write off. how can we rectify our ills when our public service are so blinded as to strike at the slight reduction in their already overpaid wages... there was a 15% cahnce the IMF would step in a 8 months ago, il take 5/2 if someone wll lay me.
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rule 4, thats right, its those pesky public servants that are at fault, not the billions being handed over to failed banking institutions. Damn those evil nurses, they are the ones to blame. By the way there was a 0% chance of the IMF stepping in. If indeed the IMF were going to step in anywhere, Iceland and Greece would have been much higher on their list. The gullible just swallowed the fear tactics and panic took hold. It reminded me of the old Chicken Licken story - 'The sky is going to fall!' Just because people say something, it doesn't make it true......
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well said gloria
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:D toby
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The Sooner the next round of cuts for the public service are brought in the better..a flat ten percent..let them go on a go slow ..most cant go any slower anyways...social welfare have to be reduced too..ten percent at least....local travellers on social and 10 plus childrens allowances are the wealthiest people in most parishs now....i had to take a 20% pay cut in the past year if i want to hold onto my job 50k down to 40K..with 4 kids id be as well off on the social but pride keeps me going to work...
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with that attitude timberman , i hope you get cut the other 80%
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Dont know the levels of social welfare payments , but they sound like they are way too high .
The only people who need decent size welfare payments are retired people with low income and parents with young children ( one parent has to be at home presumably) . They are the vulnerable in society , plus people with specific problems ( eg authenticated health ) . Those without fixed commitments which are citizen worthy , eg buying a ( single ) dwelling , should not be getting as much as the vulnerable . Country cant afford it . Simple . |
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Cant remember the asterisks , guarantee you they were not naughty or controversial . ????
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Think it was fixe@. In this context use of**d is hardly controversial .
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Tobywrong...the country is on its knees..public servents in this country are paid far greater than other european countries bar the scandanavian counterparts who pat greater taxes and would do the work of three of our public servents...dole in this country is three times what it is in co armagh or any of the other six counties..how can that be justified?
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everyone is taking a hit , anyone on social welfare certainly aint well off and i would not like to be one of them. In regards to our travelling friends i certainly wouldnt like to be born one , ask yourself would you employ them ?
Everyone wants everyone else to be cut , it smacks of begrudery and scapegoats the real culprits alluded to by gloria victus earlier in this thread. |