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didnt see one so thought ill start
TRIP
Near all previous winners in the past 14 or so had won over 3 miles (priests leaps first win is the breaker). Indeed more often or not they had multiple victories over the trip or a definitive performance winning over it once. I would weight this stat highly.
LAST RUN
A run within 2 to 4 weeks. Not necessarily good form lto either. This Is Serious in 2002 finished 9th while Mickos Dream in 2000, Bob Treacy in 1999 and Wylde Hide all finished PU in the PP chase before going on to win this. Recently decent form over incorrect trip or a decent spin over hurdles seems to be the prep.
AGE/EXPERIENCE
Winner is aged 10 yo or younger (bob treacy won at 12 but was a weak race and he loved the track - 7 wins there in total). Its also a 1st or 2nd season chaser with less than 12 runs to his name (BT/PL the exceptions here), Avoid exposed handicappers also (5+ h/c starts).
MARK
Highest winning mark was 133 (be my belle who had won easy off 131 over 3 miles prior and PL who scooted in the year before and was off 132 here allowing for claim ) and the mean mark is about 123. All had shown the near personal best form in the current season. Dont be looking at horses coming back to form and, besides, novices or 2nd season chasers should be on the upward curve. 10-13 or less seems a decent trend now also.
1 preists leap 11-10
Trip check
Prep nope
Experience nope
Mark nope
With no enright claiming and top weight I think the hattrick maybe a bridge too far
2 siegemaster 11-8
Trip check
Prep check
Experience check
Mark nope
Just the one neg so a good argument could be made by his supporters. He never looked like a horse that want s to lump 12 stone around gowran to me and id need more convincing about dessies form at present.
3 equus maximus 11-7
Trip check but ?
Prep nope
Experience nope
Mark nope
Nearly a whitewash of nopes. His 3m chase win was against forest leaves who needed heavy ground and another mile. Looks like shorter would suit better and not well in but cant discount any from this stable.
4 arbor supreme 11-5
Trip check
Prep nope
Experience nope
Mark nope
Ran well last year. Plotting a national campaign imo and this could be seen as a mark reduction mission? As per EM nothing is ruled out with this stable
5 beroni 11-3
Trip check
Prep check
Experience check
Mark nope
Comes down to if you still think hes well in after a 20lb hike from a race with mixed messages form franking wise? He
TRIP
Near all previous winners in the past 14 or so had won over 3 miles (priests leaps first win is the breaker). Indeed more often or not they had multiple victories over the trip or a definitive performance winning over it once. I would weight this stat highly.
LAST RUN
A run within 2 to 4 weeks. Not necessarily good form lto either. This Is Serious in 2002 finished 9th while Mickos Dream in 2000, Bob Treacy in 1999 and Wylde Hide all finished PU in the PP chase before going on to win this. Recently decent form over incorrect trip or a decent spin over hurdles seems to be the prep.
AGE/EXPERIENCE
Winner is aged 10 yo or younger (bob treacy won at 12 but was a weak race and he loved the track - 7 wins there in total). Its also a 1st or 2nd season chaser with less than 12 runs to his name (BT/PL the exceptions here), Avoid exposed handicappers also (5+ h/c starts).
MARK
Highest winning mark was 133 (be my belle who had won easy off 131 over 3 miles prior and PL who scooted in the year before and was off 132 here allowing for claim ) and the mean mark is about 123. All had shown the near personal best form in the current season. Dont be looking at horses coming back to form and, besides, novices or 2nd season chasers should be on the upward curve. 10-13 or less seems a decent trend now also.
1 preists leap 11-10
Trip check
Prep nope
Experience nope
Mark nope
With no enright claiming and top weight I think the hattrick maybe a bridge too far
2 siegemaster 11-8
Trip check
Prep check
Experience check
Mark nope
Just the one neg so a good argument could be made by his supporters. He never looked like a horse that want s to lump 12 stone around gowran to me and id need more convincing about dessies form at present.
3 equus maximus 11-7
Trip check but ?
Prep nope
Experience nope
Mark nope
Nearly a whitewash of nopes. His 3m chase win was against forest leaves who needed heavy ground and another mile. Looks like shorter would suit better and not well in but cant discount any from this stable.
4 arbor supreme 11-5
Trip check
Prep nope
Experience nope
Mark nope
Ran well last year. Plotting a national campaign imo and this could be seen as a mark reduction mission? As per EM nothing is ruled out with this stable
5 beroni 11-3
Trip check
Prep check
Experience check
Mark nope
Comes down to if you still think hes well in after a 20lb hike from a race with mixed messages form franking wise? He
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nice preview and a fair selection at the price. gl
Cheers for the preview, will read in depth later :)
Great read. Was swaying towards siegmaster but after reading that
You a make a great case for paddy pub. Plus they are weighted to finish
on top of each other after Leopardstown. That 16s is drying up.
You a make a great case for paddy pub. Plus they are weighted to finish
on top of each other after Leopardstown. That 16s is drying up.
cheers lads
dk - think the softer ground and the opposite direction will more than level it up myself. siegemaster could be a class act but this is not his race imo
gl
dk - think the softer ground and the opposite direction will more than level it up myself. siegemaster could be a class act but this is not his race imo
gl
Wd plat.
Am a fan of siegemaster, had him ew @25s the last day, but its his jumping that puts me off tomorrow, makes too many mistakes to get close enough under these big weights.
Footy Facts & Whinestone Boy for me.
GL.
Am a fan of siegemaster, had him ew @25s the last day, but its his jumping that puts me off tomorrow, makes too many mistakes to get close enough under these big weights.
Footy Facts & Whinestone Boy for me.
GL.
Finishing order for W Mullins runners imo..
Beroni
Ballytrim
Arbour supreme
Equus Maximus
Pomme Tiepy
Beroni
Ballytrim
Arbour supreme
Equus Maximus
Pomme Tiepy
Platinni How many of the runners that Robbie Colgan was on had a half chance and were busy from his 0-30. Dont let them stats put u off hes a good rider
THE REST OF THE CARD IS INTERESTING
RACE 1 SECANT STAR nap
william wordsworth running well at leopardstown when fell
race 2 oscar dan dan to reverse places with powerstation
race 3 carnbridge ran well at thurles against kylebeg krystle
financialregulator - ruby sticks with him why? teve na mara worth a small e/w
race 4 hangover stepping up in trip small e/w
race 5 jered should win dropping in class
race 6 wright flyer a 3 time winner looks well treated compared to his hurdle form borolee odds againest to get around and whosaidso the only other runner with any current form
race 7 exit stage left to avoid traffic
RACE 1 SECANT STAR nap
william wordsworth running well at leopardstown when fell
race 2 oscar dan dan to reverse places with powerstation
race 3 carnbridge ran well at thurles against kylebeg krystle
financialregulator - ruby sticks with him why? teve na mara worth a small e/w
race 4 hangover stepping up in trip small e/w
race 5 jered should win dropping in class
race 6 wright flyer a 3 time winner looks well treated compared to his hurdle form borolee odds againest to get around and whosaidso the only other runner with any current form
race 7 exit stage left to avoid traffic
Good post Platini great to see quality on the Irish Forum. Ill wait till the race starts before picking the winner spotted last years winner in play at 25/1.
GOOD WRITE UP PLATINI BUT IT WONT PUT ME OF TWO U DISMISS MY 3
1 WHINSTONE BOY WILL LOVE GROUND STAY ALL DAY EWAY
2 LOCHAN LACHA WAS GOIN WELL LTO WEN UR
3 SELECTION BOX ON YEARS LAST FORM WOULD BE LIVE OUTSIDER
GOOD LUCK PUNTERS
1 WHINSTONE BOY WILL LOVE GROUND STAY ALL DAY EWAY
2 LOCHAN LACHA WAS GOIN WELL LTO WEN UR
3 SELECTION BOX ON YEARS LAST FORM WOULD BE LIVE OUTSIDER
GOOD LUCK PUNTERS
I would have to agree with NI, Selection Box is nicely priced at 40/1 . He has been very unlucky in some of his most recent runs so ignore those alphabet form figures. Stable had a winner at Naas on tuesday.
1 CAPELLANUS EW
2 OSCAR DAN DAN NAP
3 MARLAY PARK EW
4 WHINSTONE BOY EW
5 CAIM HILL EW
6 GARDEN SHED SPIDER EW
7 FIRE BELT EW
MY LONGSHOT SELECTION BOX
2 OSCAR DAN DAN NAP
3 MARLAY PARK EW
4 WHINSTONE BOY EW
5 CAIM HILL EW
6 GARDEN SHED SPIDER EW
7 FIRE BELT EW
MY LONGSHOT SELECTION BOX
mug stake-saving treble secant star, oscar dan dan, paul kristian (about 7/2 at best prices)
2-05 carnbridge (can make a virtue of race-fitness and low weight)
2-35 lochan lacha, hangover (the pick of the outsiders: good jumper, handles the going, low weight, course winner)
3-05 uimhiraceathair (worth a punt against the top two; sam adams looks ungenuine, jered has a clear preference for better going)
3-35 borolee
2-05 carnbridge (can make a virtue of race-fitness and low weight)
2-35 lochan lacha, hangover (the pick of the outsiders: good jumper, handles the going, low weight, course winner)
3-05 uimhiraceathair (worth a punt against the top two; sam adams looks ungenuine, jered has a clear preference for better going)
3-35 borolee
i just think whinestone boy looks a right plot job
could prove horrendously wrong but worth a nibble
as is ravens run if he can take the step up in trip at huge odds- i know it aint the weather to be trying to go up in trip but i want to stay with the featherweights today
could prove horrendously wrong but worth a nibble
as is ravens run if he can take the step up in trip at huge odds- i know it aint the weather to be trying to go up in trip but i want to stay with the featherweights today
CD8 /DAS PITY THIS WERNT IN COMP BUT AT LEAST DAS THAT EMAIL GOT US OUT JAIL , IVE TIPPED THIS TOO OVER 50 2DAY SO AT LEAST GETS THEM OFF MY BACK FOR 1DAY AT LEAST GREAT RIDE FROM FLANAGAN AGAIN
Did a great job the lad.
Paddy Pub didnt really jump down the back.
Paddy Pub didnt really jump down the back.
NORN, you have tipped this horse numerous times in the comp (maybe 5pt-er as well?) - hope you made plenty mate :)
looks all about being prominent at gowran today; nothing getting into races from off the pace... bookies could get front two beat in the next; orpheus valley likely to lead (fancy pices gone), tinakellylad also likely to be up there... hopefully flanagan make all again on borolee in the other hcap chase
lovely jubbly
flanagan's has fluffled a few over them but even when he gets one completely wrong he can get the horses re engaged and battling in the finsih
his win a few weeks ago on rigour back bob case in point- great ride today from the front in those conditions
flanagan's has fluffled a few over them but even when he gets one completely wrong he can get the horses re engaged and battling in the finsih
his win a few weeks ago on rigour back bob case in point- great ride today from the front in those conditions
Spot on, norekk - 1st 3 home were in those positions from the off
DEEP IMPACT YES LOVE THE HORSE ON HEAVY GROUND FELL 1DAY IN THE COMP @16 WEN ON THE BRIDLE BUT NO DOUBT THAT WAS VERY GOOD RIDE AN LOOKS LIKE CONOR ODWER IS DEFF GOING BE GOOD TRAINOR AS VERY GOOD RUN FROM HANGOVER
rigour back bob was the worst winning ride since pat verling won the galway hurdle on sabadilla
he had no right to win it- clobbered the second last
and was on the inside the whole way on horrid ground
but flanagan got it recomposed and got it up
and was on the inside the whole way on horrid ground
but flanagan got it recomposed and got it up
downallstar 21 Jan 15:01
^^hope someone tells davy in the next!!
clattered the 4th last
^^hope someone tells davy in the next!!
clattered the 4th last
UIMHIRACEATHAIR OR NUMBER 4 IF I SPELT IT WRONG LOOKS VERY PROMISING HORSE AN LOT MORE TOO COME IMO
thanks, lads. not a bad day. fair play to whinestsone cowboy (!) backers
Great tipping Whinstone Boy backers. Backed Hangover and Siegemaster. Thought Ruby gave Beroni a bad ride!
top stuff norn et al WB backers. prominent runners do well in that race as mentioned
ive a pierse hurdle preview nearly done but might as well get the dart board out after that :^0
ive a pierse hurdle preview nearly done but might as well get the dart board out after that :^0
PLATINI YUR WRITE UPS ARE VERY GOOD SO GET THEM UP MAKES FOR GOOD READING AN DEBATE , GOOD LUCK M8
bit of reverse aftertiming...
backed the first 3 :)
didn't do any combo bets :(
had to share it with someone...
backed the first 3 :)
didn't do any combo bets :(
had to share it with someone...
The photo in todays RP of Mangan and Noel O`Brien is symptomatic of everything that is wrong with racing in this country. Maybe I`m naive, but I cant imagine the BHB handicappers chuckle with connections in the winners enclosure of a big race in England.
Norn was first up with the tip. Great picking despite a negative from Plat.
As soon as I got to the track the word was for Whinstone Boy who I had a saver on. It actually came from connections. Opening show was 7's , ended at 5/1. I was hoping for Siegemaster who lost his chance with a mistake at the first in the home straight.
As soon as I got to the track the word was for Whinstone Boy who I had a saver on. It actually came from connections. Opening show was 7's , ended at 5/1. I was hoping for Siegemaster who lost his chance with a mistake at the first in the home straight.
Dont mind that ghoul plattini.He makes a case for about 6 horses none of which win.Gives the winner no chance and amazingly we hear no more from him on this thread.Anybody who takes any notice of any cybernutters opinions has only himself to blame.Surely this obvious lack of knowledge deserves an apology at least.
In all fairness Cooldine plat is one of the decent lads on here.
Always gives an opinion before the race and his write ups obviously take some time and are appreciated by most on here and the ante-post forum.
Oh and as a matter of interest I remember a similar write up in 2007 on the same race when he tipped up Homer Wells @ 33-1 but you probably missed that preview.
Always gives an opinion before the race and his write ups obviously take some time and are appreciated by most on here and the ante-post forum.
Oh and as a matter of interest I remember a similar write up in 2007 on the same race when he tipped up Homer Wells @ 33-1 but you probably missed that preview.
lol @ Giant Strides.
NO'B is a lick-arse. Anytime I ever see him at the races he is apparently, and with great animation, trying to justify himself to trainers. Pathetic.
NO'B is a lick-arse. Anytime I ever see him at the races he is apparently, and with great animation, trying to justify himself to trainers. Pathetic.
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