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timberman
16 Jan 10 21:38
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After seeing about a 24 year old in Donaghmeade stabbed like a dog the side of the road and the growing numbers of murders not to mention the man accussed of last sunday nights double Murder showing his arssee to a judge showing what these vermin think of the law the death penalty might make a few of them think twice...lots of other benefits including the savings from housing these pieces of**m in prison and freeing up prison space etc
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Report RamonSanchezPizjuan January 16, 2010 9:39 PM GMT
I am not sure about the death penalty, something needs to be done though.
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby January 16, 2010 9:40 PM GMT
Its costs money to execute someone, i hope you reaslise ;)
Report timberman January 16, 2010 9:45 PM GMT
Yes a few jobs could be created as well...save a lot though housing a murderer or top drug lords for twenty years although with the micky mouse sentences they get that might only be five years,still it would reduce peoples quickness in killing for kicks
Report Win only - Sp only January 16, 2010 10:11 PM GMT
death penalty no answer ffs, how many innocent people have been convicted over the years. Have to be mad to want that back
Report ballaman68 January 16, 2010 10:47 PM GMT
Timberman it costs more to have someone on death row then to keep them in for life. the costs of the endless appeals and special housing for those on death row costs more than the life imprisonment.

I would go for the death penalty, but its time that those who break the law should be punished and punished hard, bring back the chain gangs and even proper community service for those with lighter offences.

we need to make prison a more inhospital place to be, i would like to see the return of manual labour -- make them farm to sustain the prison and make them work hard in prison.

fcuk them, if they do the crime they do HARD TIME.
Report addiction January 16, 2010 10:54 PM GMT
i think solitary confinement for 50 years min!!
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby January 16, 2010 11:01 PM GMT
Can you just imagine the babbling psychos let out after 50 years in solitary? they would fit in well on here.
Report Haventaclue January 17, 2010 10:20 PM GMT
I'd be in favour of the death penalty for the worst cases. A man or woman who murders a spouse in a crime of passion is a long way removed from, for example, the people who murdered that young plumber, Mr Campbell, a few years ago. Those guys, if caught, should be executed imo.
Report CailiniDeas8 January 18, 2010 10:51 AM GMT
Lower class death penalty, yes. Middle & upper classes no.

FFS.

:(
Report Haventaclue January 18, 2010 7:55 PM GMT
I would agree that the riff raff need to be kept in their place, but that's not what I meant.
Report LeinsterBeliever January 18, 2010 8:31 PM GMT
Good thinking lads, sure take it a little further.

You could sell on the body parts and in turn save lives and raise money for the national defecit. A body with full functions organs is worth $120k on the open according to the UN.

If there we're on average 100 convicted murders a year we'd raise $120,000,000 a year, plus less dole money to pay because they're obviously wasters on the state. It also costs €90,000 to keep a prison in jail a year so a 27 year sentence which is life minus two years or so for appeals would be another €200,000k saving over their lifetime in jail. It's a win win really.

FFS lads, what right do we have to take someones life away from them? No matter what anyone else does, we don't as a society have the moral right to kill them.
Report Barney Rock January 18, 2010 8:50 PM GMT
Can we add a few Fianna fail men to the firing squad for treason please.
Report LeinsterBeliever January 18, 2010 9:11 PM GMT
You couldn't sell their organs. They've probably already taken out a 110% loan on them anyway and seen their equity drop.
Report ballaman68 January 18, 2010 10:27 PM GMT
Leinsterb we dont have a moral right to kill anyone , but we do have a moral duty to protect the innocent.

i dont agree with capital punishment , but we do need some proper deterrent to the wrong doers.

we need people to recognise the downside of their doing, if a kid was to get a year in jail for stealing a mars bar then it would stop. if you got 20 years for stealing a car it would stop.

the downside has to vastly out weigh the upside.
Report Trent Reznor January 19, 2010 9:37 AM GMT
A friend of mine owns the loval Centra store store.
It was broken into some months ago.
The perpetrator was easily identifiable & was as they say 'known to the Gardai'.
His primary motive (apart from stealing loads of cigarettes & booze) was he wanted to get caught as he preferred being in prison.
In case the Centra raid wasn't enough to ensure a custodial sentence he attempted to break into the Bank of Ireland on his way home. Prison isn't a deterrant.
The Death Penalty isn't an alternative as EU membership forbids it.

The only legal way out of it is to declare war on another state with a similar problem. Convicted murderers, rapists, kidnappers, armed robbers, errant bankers, bankrupt property developers & c0rrupt politicians will form an elite fighting battalion that would spearhead the assault on a similar group fielded by the opposition.
'Artillery cover' would be provided by both sides until no survivors remained.
When the battle was over a peace treaty would be signed.
Report Haventaclue January 19, 2010 9:40 PM GMT
Anyway, to get back to my original point, I think the death penalty is appropriate in the worst cases. They entered that house to murder another gangster figure. They found someone else there, a civilian, someone they had no business with, and they made a snap decision to take his life too. In my book, that was an unspeakable act, and I think the people responsible should be executed. If the death penalty did exist for crimes of that seriousness, then I think those guys might have made a different snap decision.
Report downallstar January 19, 2010 9:45 PM GMT
^
I agree.
These ppl are s**and deserve to be hung.
Report Barney Rock January 19, 2010 11:55 PM GMT
Now, I'm the kind of man that wouldn't harm a mouse
But if I catch somebody breakin' in my house
I've got a twelve gauge shotgun waitin' on the other side
So don't go pushin' me against my will
I don't want to have to fight you but I durn sure will
So if you don't want trouble that you'd better just pass me on by
As far as I'm concerned there ain't no excuse
For the raping and the killing and the child abuse
And I've got a way to put and end to all that mess
You just take those rascals out in the swamp
Put them on their knees and tie 'em to a stump
And let the rattlers and the bugs and the alligators do the rest
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