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13 Dec 09 21:12
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Picking (Up) Winners Without Placing a Bet

By VINCENT M. MALLOZZI
NY TIMES

For the past 10 years, Jesus Leonardo has been cleaning up at an OTB parlor in Midtown Manhattan, cashing in, by his own count, nearly half a million dollars worth of winning tickets from wagers on thoroughbred races across the country.

During his glorious run, Mr. Leonardo, 57, has not placed a single bet.

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By:
dillinger
When: 13 Dec 09 21:26
hard to see it hapenning in leop/limk this xmas , but you never know ...great story though
By:
grade 1
When: 13 Dec 09 21:28
warren buffett did the same in his time.
By:
dermo79
When: 13 Dec 09 21:32
interesting alright, I saw a few guys like this on Arc weekend in Longchamp picking up tote tickets that had been discarded, I figured there must be some cash in it if they are doing it....didnt think there was that much cash tho!
By:
mightymoyes
When: 13 Dec 09 22:12
$8.5m over 2 years!
By:
Vubiant
When: 13 Dec 09 22:17
He stoops to conquer.
By:
Market Wizard2
When: 13 Dec 09 22:21
great story alright.cheers for putting it up here
By:
undertones6
When: 13 Dec 09 23:31
I REMEMBER SOME LADS DOING IT AT THE PHOENIX PARK,PICKING UP ALL THE TOTE TICKETS AND GETTING A FEW QUID EACH EVENING-TOP STORY AS RATHER THAN THE BOOKS OR TOTE KEEPING THE READIES SOMEBODY GETS THEM
By:
undertones6
When: 14 Dec 09 00:23
THIS ARTICLE WAS WROTE BY THE CAPTAIN IN 2003
AT Punchestown on Sunday a horse called You Need Luck ran his usual genuine race for owners Liam Brady and Gerard Shevlin and trainer Jessica Harrington.
The solid form of the son of Key Of Luck - third at Galway, second at Down Royal - suggested he should run into a place, even in the competitive, 25-runner three-year-old hurdle.

He finished fourth, a curse to those off-course who backed You Need Luck each-way; but this was a boon to 'The Stoopers'.

This is the name given to that extraordinary group of people who scavenge the racecourses of Ireland picking up Tote tickets their original owners have discarded as worthless.

There is no mystery to the name. The Stoopers simply stoop down after every race and examine tickets in case they are winners.

Non-handicaps with big fields are fertile ground for Stoopers. Many who back a horse placed fourth still do not realise that the Tote pay on the fourth horse.

There are dedicated Stoopers. One man is said to take his children to the races for the sole purpose of Stooping.

The family pick up ALL discarded tickets, return to their Limerick home, and scrutinise the day's takings.

Instead of doing their homework, the children are examining Tote tickets; and it can be highly lucrative, according to one source.

It may be that the days of the Stoopers are numbered, according to Tote Ireland boss John White who confirmed the phenomenon.

"I know of the practice, if not by that particular name", says the Tote supremo. He adds: "It is not the big business that it used to be.

"Contract cleaners are so quick off the mark at race meetings these days that the tickets are more likely to be hoovered up and destroyed.

"You might say that the sweepers are putting an end to the Stoopers!".

But Stooping means the Tote have very few unclaimed tickets, and certainly nothing of the volume of the high street betting shops.

John White is excited about the figures being produced by the Tote. "This year, we are looking at a €3m increase in turnover in the home product and €1.5m in imported sales."

TAKEN FROM THE INDO(JOHN MARTIN NOV 2003)
By:
randwick
When: 14 Dec 09 10:31
known as emus in Australia. Results in ban from courses if caught. Crowd in melbourne made a fortune from it years ago
By:
Dan Chipowski
When: 14 Dec 09 10:45
Chucked away a tote slip at gowran park yrs ago worth over 500 notes. It was a forecast my brother had done, and him being a novice asked me to check it. I had the wrong result in my head somehow, told him it lost. Only spotted it two days later when looking at the results in the paper. Never told him ;)
By:
DEAKO
When: 14 Dec 09 13:42
:)
By:
soapp
When: 14 Dec 09 16:41
There is still one dedicated stooper at most Irish meetings. All the regulars know him. And he ain't short a buck or two!!
By:
megabucks
When: 14 Dec 09 20:57
think there are 2 regular stoopers soapp. I'd know one of em to talk to at the tracks, does well out of it especially at the holiday meetings.
By:
Cupwinkcook
When: 14 Dec 09 21:16
the day celtic swing was beaten in the guineas, there was a 4 horse race chase at Uttoxeter

Strath Royal won it with River Tarquin second

River Tarquin was disqualified and the forecast of 1.80 was paid out on Strath Royal with anyone

I had teamed him with Gallateen who was pulled up.

Docket had been thrown in a heap on the floor the size of a snow drift.

Got paid anyway, but I'd sat there were a fair few winning dockets in the bin that day.
By:
MCKENNA
When: 14 Dec 09 22:28
Interesting stuff alright, must keep an eye out for these lads over the Christmas to see how they get on - think most people would view them as right chancers and scavengers but if it gets them a few bob, sure whats the harm?
By:
Poohna
When: 15 Dec 09 13:13
there's a lad from kerry that does it at the big festivals...you would be surprised how many winning tote dockets dont get cashed!
By:
stevie_p
When: 15 Dec 09 13:52
i work for the tote ,
would get at least one punter a meeting that would leave his ticket on the counter.
usually drunks and £20+ bets . usually you catch them and call them back , one ticket i kept on the side , £40 on a 5/1 shot , stuffed :(
By:
The Icchantika
When: 15 Dec 09 13:55
Poohna owns the Tote.
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