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Sorry just posting again as previous post was wrong title.
Surely some big money?
Surely some big money?
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The Clerk of the Scales objected to the winner, I LOVE YOU SIVOLA (FR), ridden by Freddie Mitchell,
and trained by Max Comley on the grounds of the rider weighing in at 10st 5lb having weighed out at
10st 10lb. The rider, the trainer, the valet and the Clerk of the Scales were interviewed. Comley was
fined £1500 as his travelling head person had failed to saddle the horse correctly by failing to add the
weight cloth to I LOVE YOU SIVOLA
fortunes done across the country and a fine of £1500 fkn embarrassing.
and trained by Max Comley on the grounds of the rider weighing in at 10st 5lb having weighed out at
10st 10lb. The rider, the trainer, the valet and the Clerk of the Scales were interviewed. Comley was
fined £1500 as his travelling head person had failed to saddle the horse correctly by failing to add the
weight cloth to I LOVE YOU SIVOLA
fortunes done across the country and a fine of £1500 fkn embarrassing.
Of course the media coverage in the trade papers will be all over this with big headlines and arguments debated...
would be an excellent setup if someone decided to get a horse in without the weight, then lay it as much as they wanted at 1.01 etc
Last race as well...bookies would have paid out nearly every ticket on the fav I would guess before the bing bong?
Plus most punters who backed the 2nd for the win would have chucked their tickets, all scrambling around to find them...plus the ones who got paid out on the place only going back to claim the win money...Chaos, I would imagine
Plus most punters who backed the 2nd for the win would have chucked their tickets, all scrambling around to find them...plus the ones who got paid out on the place only going back to claim the win money...Chaos, I would imagine
It cost me, but luckily only fairly lightly (pardon the pun) - I had to lose on my lay of the 4th in the 3 place market, which was enough to grind my gears still.
Lovely they are able to mostly blame a shadowy figure in the stewards...
his travelling head person
his travelling head person
Life bans wouldn't stop it, you will never stop human error. The system just seems to be wrong. The jockey weighs out and then gives the saddle, number cloth, weight cloth, etc to the trainer, assistant trainer, travelling head lad,
He then carries it to the saddling boxes and is responsible for correctly putting everything on the horse.
I would guess most the issues happen there, weight cloth left in the corner etc you wiyld think someone at the track could check all the boxes after they are saddled, would give 5 or 10 minutes for any mistakes to be rectified
He then carries it to the saddling boxes and is responsible for correctly putting everything on the horse.
I would guess most the issues happen there, weight cloth left in the corner etc you wiyld think someone at the track could check all the boxes after they are saddled, would give 5 or 10 minutes for any mistakes to be rectified
When was the last time this happened ? Twenty years ago,maybe a genuine mistake…..
Would you like me to spoil your day Ironage ?
I’m doing really good at the football…..sorry !
I’m doing really good at the football…..sorry !
uptheirons 21 Oct 26 19:44
It happens every season,cretin
I frigin know when it happens you fool….that was tongue in cheek silly boy
It happens every season,cretin
I frigin know when it happens you fool….that was tongue in cheek silly boy
I do not give a flying about your aftertime football bets
I have the proof….if you want classified it will cost you …..
formoftheace Joined: 17 Apr 12
Replies: 2513021 Oct 26 19:40
When was the last time this happened ? Twenty years ago,maybe a genuine mistake…..
dave that comment is up there with uptheirons the 2nds a hound..you're a fckn complete tatey as well.
Replies: 2513021 Oct 26 19:40
When was the last time this happened ? Twenty years ago,maybe a genuine mistake…..
dave that comment is up there with uptheirons the 2nds a hound..you're a fckn complete tatey as well.
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uptheirons 21 Oct 26 19:44
It happens every season,cretin
Laugh I frigin know when it happens you fool….that was tongue in cheek silly boy
uptheirons 21 Oct 26 19:44
It happens every season,cretin
Laugh I frigin know when it happens you fool….that was tongue in cheek silly boy
Documented UK Light Weigh-In Incidents (2020–2026)
• October 2026 (Fontwell): Jockey Freddie Mitchell weighed in 5 lb light after riding a winner without a weight cloth, resulting in the horse's disqualification and a fine for the trainer.
• March 2026 (Kempton): Champion apprentice Joe Leavy weighed in 1.5 lb light aboard the winning horse Penny Time, which led to an automatic disqualification.
• October 2025 (Newbury): Amateur rider Toby Moore weighed in 15 lb light after a piece of lead padding was mistakenly left out during saddling.
• October 2023 (Wetherby): Jump jockey Harry Reed weighed in 2 lb light after finishing a race on Breizh River, triggering a disqualification and steward inquiry.
• February 2020 (Carlisle): Champion jump jockey Brian Hughes weighed in 5 lb light after winning on Bingo D'Olivate. The trainer later discovered the dropped weight cloth on the sand walk-in from the course, but the horse was still disqualified.
• October 2026 (Fontwell): Jockey Freddie Mitchell weighed in 5 lb light after riding a winner without a weight cloth, resulting in the horse's disqualification and a fine for the trainer.
• March 2026 (Kempton): Champion apprentice Joe Leavy weighed in 1.5 lb light aboard the winning horse Penny Time, which led to an automatic disqualification.
• October 2025 (Newbury): Amateur rider Toby Moore weighed in 15 lb light after a piece of lead padding was mistakenly left out during saddling.
• October 2023 (Wetherby): Jump jockey Harry Reed weighed in 2 lb light after finishing a race on Breizh River, triggering a disqualification and steward inquiry.
• February 2020 (Carlisle): Champion jump jockey Brian Hughes weighed in 5 lb light after winning on Bingo D'Olivate. The trainer later discovered the dropped weight cloth on the sand walk-in from the course, but the horse was still disqualified.
im hardy a fool lochy ya silleekhúnt..you on the other hand type more absolute shít than the local sewage works.
I can remember about 50 years ago backing one of Jumbos in the last to get out at Catterick i was singing in the car going home till i heard the racing results at Scotch Corner.
Ronnie
Ronnie
Rico
Of to bed long day awaits may i ask you a question probably put my foot in it but hows the dog.
Of to bed long day awaits may i ask you a question probably put my foot in it but hows the dog.
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Life bans wouldn't stop it, you will never stop human error. The system just seems to be wrong. The jockey weighs out and then gives the saddle, number cloth, weight cloth, etc to the trainer, assistant trainer, travelling head lad,
He then carries it to the saddling boxes and is responsible for correctly putting everything on the horse.
I would guess most the issues happen there, weight cloth left in the corner etc you wiyld think someone at the track could check all the boxes after they are saddled, would give 5 or 10 minutes for any mistakes to be rectified
Virtually no trainer saddles their horse in the saddling boxes any longer. It's almost unheard of. They are all saddled away from the public, on account of their horseys being delicate flowers and too highly strung for public saddling these days. Basically modern trainers are all rubbish at training horses.
Racegoers are short-changed, because we no longer get to see the horses in the pre-parade ring, nor how they behave when being saddled. More particularly, cases of horses missing a weight cloth have now become a regular occurrence, and for precisely the reason you describe: if a trainer left a weight cloth in the corner of a saddling box in the old days, someone used to spot it, even the staff doing the poop-scooping.
It's an example of Chesterton's Fence: you only find out why something is there (e.g., a saddling box) when it's taken away.
Life bans wouldn't stop it, you will never stop human error. The system just seems to be wrong. The jockey weighs out and then gives the saddle, number cloth, weight cloth, etc to the trainer, assistant trainer, travelling head lad,
He then carries it to the saddling boxes and is responsible for correctly putting everything on the horse.
I would guess most the issues happen there, weight cloth left in the corner etc you wiyld think someone at the track could check all the boxes after they are saddled, would give 5 or 10 minutes for any mistakes to be rectified
Virtually no trainer saddles their horse in the saddling boxes any longer. It's almost unheard of. They are all saddled away from the public, on account of their horseys being delicate flowers and too highly strung for public saddling these days. Basically modern trainers are all rubbish at training horses.
Racegoers are short-changed, because we no longer get to see the horses in the pre-parade ring, nor how they behave when being saddled. More particularly, cases of horses missing a weight cloth have now become a regular occurrence, and for precisely the reason you describe: if a trainer left a weight cloth in the corner of a saddling box in the old days, someone used to spot it, even the staff doing the poop-scooping.
It's an example of Chesterton's Fence: you only find out why something is there (e.g., a saddling box) when it's taken away.
hes way better ronnie thanks..leg about 80%..but coping well and getting about fine..cost me £6500 utn
its arny munnee
its arny munnee
I Love You Sivola may not have won carrying 5LB more anyway. We'll never know.
...I do wonder...if the stable staff realised that the 5lb weight was missing when the race was on...wouldn't they have every opportunity to furtively put it back into the tack during a winners enclosure "celebratary huddle " etc ?...or shove it down the jockey's breeches !
Sure Saffie Osbourne weighed out after a race outside (St Leger?).
Why can't all tracks have a weigh out set of scales by the Wnrs
enclosure, at least light weight carriers will be known a lot quicker.
Why can't all tracks have a weigh out set of scales by the Wnrs
enclosure, at least light weight carriers will be known a lot quicker.
They have a Weighing Room and that is all that is needed.
The odd "accident" has always happened
The odd "accident" has always happened
No wonder inplay is drying up though - why take the risk at monster prices?
Happened a few times in Ireland too recently. exchanges need to void the whole race
Sadly I'd agree, at least for exchanges - should be a void market and race in these cases.
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