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Rags never lose. Tracking at BSP
16:55 Pont Rogue Enforcer
17:15 Wolverhampton Reciprocated
17:22 Bath Squiffy
17:45 Wolverhampton Telemark 3 places
18:00 Southwell Daytona Lady
19:00 Southwell Proud Nation
16:55 Pont Rogue Enforcer
17:15 Wolverhampton Reciprocated
17:22 Bath Squiffy
17:45 Wolverhampton Telemark 3 places
18:00 Southwell Daytona Lady
19:00 Southwell Proud Nation
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20:30 Southwell
Papa Cocktail (not a rag but think he will win)
Stanley Spencer value rag
Papa Cocktail (not a rag but think he will win)
Stanley Spencer value rag
no luckerino, they're rags for a reason
2/23 won -0.65
8/23 placed
I also fancied Em four, big place. Need to trust driftas more. When you see a 10-25 drift you just want to look elsewhere.
2/23 won -0.65
8/23 placed
I also fancied Em four, big place. Need to trust driftas more. When you see a 10-25 drift you just want to look elsewhere.
Fair play, at least he is keeping most of his ramblings on one thread.
13:50 Cheltenham
Ice Jet
Passing Diamond
Glen To Glen
Top 2 favs are bad
Ice Jet
Passing Diamond
Glen To Glen
Top 2 favs are bad
gotta be patient with rages, one or 2 wins and suddenly +25
Good luck gaze. I'll be amazed if the shortie doesn't win. Progressing nicely and byblope denvega should relish conditions more than anything else in there.
noo, beaten by a drifta. Why was hugh taylor's pick a big drifta?
the losing runs when going for outsiders can be horrific, even if you are profitable long term. There is plenty of value to be found under 5/1, and the losing runs are far shorter.
Oh I know, I do back shorter prices. I just have multiple longshot angles and big odds are fun. I'll go until +50 or -50 whichever comes first. I believe I'll win.
muahahah, mighty gaze is in profit again, shoulda forecasted them.
19:30 Tiger 16.0, you gotta back that TTT
and Vincenzo Peruggia BSP, he's a drifta at the moment
and Vincenzo Peruggia BSP, he's a drifta at the moment
i'm a professional ! i dont back horses purely on their name ! besides, its over 5/1
Mae Amor steam to 14 but useless :(
ok today 1-20, only win Yehudi BSP 19.2 so +17.29 - 20 = -2.71
Passing Diamond 2nd
U Sure Do 2nd
Traprain Law 2nd
Tiger 2nd
total 3/43 won -3.34
12/43 placed
Just 1 more win and it would be +10 from 43 bets but noo, it's always second places.
ok today 1-20, only win Yehudi BSP 19.2 so +17.29 - 20 = -2.71
Passing Diamond 2nd
U Sure Do 2nd
Traprain Law 2nd
Tiger 2nd
total 3/43 won -3.34
12/43 placed
Just 1 more win and it would be +10 from 43 bets but noo, it's always second places.
gaze,tobymugs has a winning cistern going for decent offers.
at these odds the difference between a small loss and a 20% roi system is one horse not losing by a neck, system is good
also most of the picks were more likely to steam than drift when I took a price 10-20 min before off.
I work full time at being the best tipsta. I've tried other sports but it's a grind with 8% edges, horses give you 30% because the mugmarket can't price them right.
bsp 22, 3.1 IR, bad rag. pre race steam on fav = win as usual
Misclicking is the most plausible way of finding O'Moore Park.
16.55 Summergrounds, must not be fav at BSP
+ rag Maillot Blanc
+ rag Maillot Blanc
20.00 The Honey Thief 20, same odds as the starting time, cert
20.30 Uncle Sam
ok, done the whole card, let's win easy money
ok, done the whole card, let's win easy money
so 5 losses and BSP 8.57 win +7.19 - 5 = +2.19 today so far, need one more
rags never win -15
day 1-20 -12.81
placed Uncle Sam
Red Hat Eagle 2nd
Dumfries
Tolstoy
Moulin Booj
total 4/64 won -16.15
18/64 placed
It's so dumb, if I had laid those 64, there would be 8 winners somehow. When you lay a drifting 25/1 shot, they magically defy all odds and bolt up like an odds on fav. When you lay a LTO winner at 15, they will naturally win again. Back them and they finish last. But hey, need just 1 winner to break even, ez game.
day 1-20 -12.81
placed Uncle Sam
Red Hat Eagle 2nd
Dumfries
Tolstoy
Moulin Booj
total 4/64 won -16.15
18/64 placed
It's so dumb, if I had laid those 64, there would be 8 winners somehow. When you lay a drifting 25/1 shot, they magically defy all odds and bolt up like an odds on fav. When you lay a LTO winner at 15, they will naturally win again. Back them and they finish last. But hey, need just 1 winner to break even, ez game.
jasstardust 24 Oct 26 21:57
is this person hulk unda
a different name
is this person hulk unda
a different name
Hey Gaze, are you still on tipsterr.com but now using a new identity?
Your last bet on there was almost three years ago when you were using the moniker 'Racing King', look....
Racing King lost an each way double at Newcastle, UK.
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Your last bet on there was almost three years ago when you were using the moniker 'Racing King', look....
Racing King lost an each way double at Newcastle, UK.
Added 15th November 2023 at 11:38
£2 total stake with Bet365 -£2 profit
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£49 Per Month 
" How many subscribers did you get Gaze " ??
" How many subscribers did you get Gaze " ??
racing king is not me, I have no hoarse service on tipstrr yet. It's hard because I focus on BSP betting so I would basically have to bet at ISP prices which are terrible. I could fancy a 2.8 fav on the exchange and the current offer is 2.20 on 365, can't post that.
The problem with 90% of horse services is that even if they are shrewd, the only thing they can do is win at early prices. It's nice they can advise a 15/1 shot 20 hours before the race, but it will be 10/1 in 5 minutes after the email is posted and 7/1 at BSP, worthless.
I deleted the old one, might make a new one with a different strategy. No totals, no draws, no first period bets, no +1.5 handicaps because it's just bad odds that lose to empty netters anyway.
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Conclusion for Gaze/Racing King written by Tipstrr on Betfan.
If you ask me, Racing King is a fantastic example of a cautionary tale and why you can't just blindly take the words of tipsters. Betfan have every right to advertise this the way that they have. After all, this is a service that has seen more than 800 points of profit in a year. But that is only a very narrow way of looking at it.
You see, when I look at Racing King, the things that I think simply aren't in line with this idea of an immensely profitable tipster service. After all, this is a service that over the course of most of a year, saw about 70 points. Except, that is using the inflated 5 point stakes. If you were betting just 1 point per bet, that would be just 14 points. For a service that would have cost you some £405 in that period.
But for now, let's stick to those advised stakes. So, over 9 months, Racing King made 70 points of profit. Then a single day in January lost 40 points. The numbers just don't seem to add up in my opinion. There certainly isn't any obvious way that I can reconcile them. All that I keep thinking is that you are paying a lot of money for a service that in real terms, has performed really rather moderately.
The real consideration with me here isn't just the amount that you can (or can't) make with Racing King (depending on how you want to look at it). It is the incredible amount of work that you have to put into it. I can't ever recall looking at a tipster service that just takes so much commitment.
When you bring all of this together, I just find myself really questioning what the worth of Racing King is. It is incredibly expensive, the results aren't bad but they are very hard won, and your investment is really quite significant. That might be alright for a service that boasts consistency (something Betfan claim for this, interestingly enough), but I don't really see that.
Where there was consistency, it was effectively one massive plateau.
Honestly, I don't really think that I would look to recommend Racing King. I can definitely see why Betfan are keen to push this, but for me, I just don't see why you'd really want to put your time into this. There are other services that if you scaled up their results, would do just as well. They'd also cost less, take up less time, and require a smaller betting bank. And I don't really think I can be much clearer than that.
Conclusion for Gaze/Racing King written by Tipstrr on Betfan.
If you ask me, Racing King is a fantastic example of a cautionary tale and why you can't just blindly take the words of tipsters. Betfan have every right to advertise this the way that they have. After all, this is a service that has seen more than 800 points of profit in a year. But that is only a very narrow way of looking at it.
You see, when I look at Racing King, the things that I think simply aren't in line with this idea of an immensely profitable tipster service. After all, this is a service that over the course of most of a year, saw about 70 points. Except, that is using the inflated 5 point stakes. If you were betting just 1 point per bet, that would be just 14 points. For a service that would have cost you some £405 in that period.
But for now, let's stick to those advised stakes. So, over 9 months, Racing King made 70 points of profit. Then a single day in January lost 40 points. The numbers just don't seem to add up in my opinion. There certainly isn't any obvious way that I can reconcile them. All that I keep thinking is that you are paying a lot of money for a service that in real terms, has performed really rather moderately.
The real consideration with me here isn't just the amount that you can (or can't) make with Racing King (depending on how you want to look at it). It is the incredible amount of work that you have to put into it. I can't ever recall looking at a tipster service that just takes so much commitment.
When you bring all of this together, I just find myself really questioning what the worth of Racing King is. It is incredibly expensive, the results aren't bad but they are very hard won, and your investment is really quite significant. That might be alright for a service that boasts consistency (something Betfan claim for this, interestingly enough), but I don't really see that.
Where there was consistency, it was effectively one massive plateau.
Honestly, I don't really think that I would look to recommend Racing King. I can definitely see why Betfan are keen to push this, but for me, I just don't see why you'd really want to put your time into this. There are other services that if you scaled up their results, would do just as well. They'd also cost less, take up less time, and require a smaller betting bank. And I don't really think I can be much clearer than that.
gaze, why dont ewe offer a shít tipping service, only need a wheelbarrow and shovel.
I've seen some services running for 6+ years have a 10 month breakeven stretch, what do you think the reviewer would say if he was in that stretch, that the service that made 500pts is no good?
glentoby 26 Jan 18 21:50
As far as I am aware I personally own the only method which will produce a long term profit,not a "system" as popularly refered to and devised after 2 decades + of research.My sole motivation for posting on any racing or betting forum is to give the average punter an edge.No more,no less.
My method would be no good to the average or even prudent punter or greedy chancers.I had an offer to purchase it following a trial by 4 individuals on the BF Forum,over a year using it.Bound by copyright etc and proven beyond doubt the worth of it.
The only time I was tempted to sell I had an offer that was £40,000 short of the £600,000 I would accept.All documented and recorded for posterity.I would only sell on condition that the proceeds went to SSAFA,knowing full well that would be the only payoff.
The offer came from a well known tipping operation who continue to rip off punters Nationwide and now coming up to their most lucrative period.
It is still for sale but £600k is the minumum I would consider to part with it on behalf of SSAFA!!
As far as I am aware I personally own the only method which will produce a long term profit,not a "system" as popularly refered to and devised after 2 decades + of research.My sole motivation for posting on any racing or betting forum is to give the average punter an edge.No more,no less.
My method would be no good to the average or even prudent punter or greedy chancers.I had an offer to purchase it following a trial by 4 individuals on the BF Forum,over a year using it.Bound by copyright etc and proven beyond doubt the worth of it.
The only time I was tempted to sell I had an offer that was £40,000 short of the £600,000 I would accept.All documented and recorded for posterity.I would only sell on condition that the proceeds went to SSAFA,knowing full well that would be the only payoff.
The offer came from a well known tipping operation who continue to rip off punters Nationwide and now coming up to their most lucrative period.
It is still for sale but £600k is the minumum I would consider to part with it on behalf of SSAFA!!
For 600k it would have to be a 30% ROI 50% SR system with a volume of at least 20 bets a month. I wonder what the system's stats are.
And why would the people who trialed it buy it? They already know the method. And you can't copyright a method of reading a racecard correctly, LOL.
al gan halfas with ewe gaze..how mutch will i hoffa?
System stats as requested...
| Date (Year) | Bets | Wins | Win% |
| 2013 | 180 | 109 | 60.56% |
| 2014 | 180 | 95 | 52.78% |
| 2015 | 180 | 95 | 52.78% |
| 2016 | 183 | 94 | 51.37% |
| 2017 | 142 | 72 | 50.70% |
| 2018 | 167 | 89 | 53.29% |
| 2019 | 162 | 89 | 54.94% |
| 2020 | 103 | 45 | 43.69% |
| 2021 | 171 | 91 | 53.22% |
| 2022 | 189 | 104 | 55.03% |
| 2023 | 177 | 98 | 55.37% |
| 2024 | 160 | 89 | 55.63% |
| 2025 | 228 | 128 | 56.14% |
| 2026 | 195 | 106 | 54.36% |
Apologies, I omitted the ROI% column earlier...
| Date (Year) | Bets | Wins | Win% | ROI% |
| 2013 | 180 | 109 | 60.56% | 37.55% |
| 2014 | 180 | 95 | 52.78% | 32.72% |
| 2015 | 180 | 95 | 52.78% | 32.72% |
| 2016 | 183 | 94 | 51.37% | 31.85% |
| 2017 | 142 | 72 | 50.70% | 31.43% |
| 2018 | 167 | 89 | 53.29% | 33.04% |
| 2019 | 162 | 89 | 54.94% | 34.06% |
| 2020 | 103 | 45 | 43.69% | 27.09% |
| 2021 | 171 | 91 | 53.22% | 33.00% |
| 2022 | 189 | 104 | 55.03% | 34.12% |
| 2023 | 177 | 98 | 55.37% | 34.33% |
| 2024 | 160 | 89 | 55.63% | 34.49% |
| 2025 | 228 | 128 | 56.14% | 34.81% |
| 2026 | 195 | 106 | 54.36% | 33.70% |
is that at bsp? does the mighty efficient market leave 30% roi edges on the table?
19:30 Wolverhampton
Kudos Too
Tabasko
20:00 Wolverhampton
Mythical Bird
20:30 Wolverhampton
Cabeza De Llave
Kiss Dont Tell
fill yer boots!
Kudos Too
Tabasko
20:00 Wolverhampton
Mythical Bird
20:30 Wolverhampton
Cabeza De Llave
Kiss Dont Tell
fill yer boots!
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