GOLD CUP 2027

might be worth posting in cheltenham festival forum then post won't get shuffled off the 1st page

Thanks for that

Thanks for that

MANUELPADILLAJNR 07 Oct 26 13:57 
I have taken a look at the possible field for this and cannot see anything touching Gaelic Warrior if he is the same this season

well deduced Sherlock.

Hugo stop being silly no need for it whatsoever and also taken out of context, grow up a little.

Ricos giving him a good talking-to as we speak,Manuel..good luck

Telling Manuel to grow up a little

SYBIL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izAqFoLtzKM

You know nothing 

Classic Sketch

hows big manuel,manuel?

By the way if your looking to back ante post on Betfair be very careful, if your horse is pulled out at any declaration stage then you lose your bet, even if the horse is later supplemented and actually runs in the race.          i cant believe that is correct

By the way if your looking to back ante post on Betfair be very careful, if your horse is pulled out at any declaration stage then you lose your bet, even if the horse is later supplemented and actually runs in the race.          i cant believe that is correct

All things being equal there's only one winner. The others will be running for a place if the Gaelic Warrior of last season turns up. But, beware if one is contemplating backing him for the King George. I do not think he'll show given the timing of the race and the nature of the track. He's a champion now.

I concur with elisjohn...^^^...regarding ante post and decs
I always thought that an ante post market was not settled until after the actual race had taken place, not partially settled at each declaration stage
For example, in the past I have backed a horse ante post that had been pulled out at the declaration stage, so obviously no chance of winning...but the race wasn't run because of the weather/ground, so all bets refunded

I backed Iknowthewayurthinkin at 50-1 and at 150-1 the year he won the gold cup, got paid on the 50-1 as that was with bookies but lost the 150-1 as that was with the exchanges, he came out at a later declaration stage before being supplemented and then winning the race, learned the hard way, even though the stakes were only £5 each it still hurts a little.

Subject to the points below, in ante-post markets, all bets on an individual horse stand whether the horse runs or not.
For GB and Irish racing: if a horse is balloted out, all bets on that horse will be void.
If a horse listed in an ante-post market dies, Betfair will use the available information to determine the time of the horse's death. Betfair will then, acting reasonably, determine whether the horse was a 'material runner' in the market. Betfair will undertake a similar determination in cases where it is advised through official channels that a runner has been formally scratched from an ante-post race. In determining whether a horse is a material runner, Betfair will consider the general price of the horse immediately before the horse's death (or immediately before being advised it has been scratched), in the Betfair market and in the wider betting market. Broadly, Betfair will consider a horse to be a material runner if it is deemed to have an approximate chance of winning of 8-10 per cent or better.
If Betfair determines that the horse was a 'material runner', then all bets struck in the market (on all selections) between the time of death (or the time that the formal scratching notification was created) and the suspension of the market will be void and all unmatched bets will be cancelled before the market is reopened.
If Betfair determines that the horse was not a 'material runner', then just bets struck on the horse in question between the time of death (or the time that the formal scratching notification was created) and the suspension of the market will be void and unmatched bets will not be cancelled before the market is reopened.
Bets matched on horses after they have forfeited their entry at a particular entry stage or where they have not qualified by the applicable qualifying date will be voided unless the race in question has a subsequent supplementary entry stage.
Please be aware that runners who have not been entered at the various entry stages may be removed from relevant race markets and all matched customer bet prices set to 1.0 even if there are later supplementary stages. Should it appear likely that a specific runner may actually be supplemented into the race this runner will be reinstated with all matched customer bets set back to the original prices.
No 'Betfair Non-Runner Rule' reductions are made to ante-post bets.
All relevant bets will be void where an event is: abandoned and not rescheduled; or postponed and rescheduled to another venue; or postponed and rescheduled to another day at the same venue with entries for the race being reopened or reverting back to a previous entry or declaration stage provided any additional horses are entered or re-entered and such entries or declarations are considered, in Betfair's absolute discretion, material to the betting on the race. For the avoidance of doubt, where a race is postponed and rescheduled to another day at the same venue, relevant bets will stand where entries/declarations at the time of postponement remain unaltered or include any non-material addition(s) prior to the rescheduled race.

there is part on that exchange rules which i admit not certain about, but im shocked and very surprised that your bet wasnt settled as a winner

Please be aware that runners who have not been entered at the various entry stages may be removed from relevant race markets and all matched customer bet prices set to 1.0 even if there are later supplementary stages. Should it appear likely that a specific runner may actually be supplemented into the race this runner will be reinstated with all matched customer bets set back to the original prices.

I thought the adjudication of Betfair Exchange was outrageous. I'd have thought regardless of the selection being taken out and then supplemented after a change of heart by the owner it's irrelevant. The only relevant factor (to me) is whether the selection runs in the race you've backed eg if the selection runs, your bet is live.

I'd have sought ABAS to adjudicate