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Well today a bod from the post put up some selections for this, was pleasantly surprised to see some big prices put up.
Here’s the place for discussion, thoughts and selections if you feel that way inclined.
Also hopefully some who never give an opinion might give us their thoughts even if it’s a thumbs up or down for each of the picks.
Moji’s are popular on here now so should be easy today!
Here’s the place for discussion, thoughts and selections if you feel that way inclined.
Also hopefully some who never give an opinion might give us their thoughts even if it’s a thumbs up or down for each of the picks.
Moji’s are popular on here now so should be easy today!
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Long Distance Cup : Jan Brueghel “the 9-4 is worth taking.”
Champions Sprint : Great Wish 50/1
Filly & Nightmares : Lilt 10/1
QE11 1 Mile : Rayif 4/1 5/1
Champion Stakes : Best Secret 50/1
https://www.racingpost.com/news/festivals/british-champions-day/british-champions-day-how-are-the-markets-shaping-up-for-the-big-races-at-ascot-and-where-does-the-ante-post-value-lie-aOGmg2P8wULn/
All via Digital Journo Joe Eccles
Champions Sprint : Great Wish 50/1
Filly & Nightmares : Lilt 10/1
QE11 1 Mile : Rayif 4/1 5/1
Champion Stakes : Best Secret 50/1
https://www.racingpost.com/news/festivals/british-champions-day/british-champions-day-how-are-the-markets-shaping-up-for-the-big-races-at-ascot-and-where-does-the-ante-post-value-lie-aOGmg2P8wULn/
All via Digital Journo Joe Eccles
The form of the Jubliee has worked out very well, providing winners. But the selection Great Wish had ran well in the AL Quoz in Dubai back in March.
That form looked tidy too.
Lilt I’d hoped would go for the Yorkshire Oaks to test her over this trip at a track that she’d won at, was running on well last time, the form could look 00 SH after the Arc.
Not sure about Rayif over this stiff mile, they’re looking at the Forret, he has speed.
Best Secret is a horse that I like but he was an intended for the Grand Prix Du Deauville, missed that and never ran in the Foy.
Is seen as being better over 12f and has been off since June. Can see the angle for him but those factors would make me want MORE in terms of Price.
He could be entered for the Prix Consul De Paris the consolation ARC but hasn’t been entered for the German G1 after so wonder if he’s had a setback?
Can’t back that rogue Jan and at 9/4 can just watch the race.
That form looked tidy too.
Lilt I’d hoped would go for the Yorkshire Oaks to test her over this trip at a track that she’d won at, was running on well last time, the form could look 00 SH after the Arc.
Not sure about Rayif over this stiff mile, they’re looking at the Forret, he has speed.
Best Secret is a horse that I like but he was an intended for the Grand Prix Du Deauville, missed that and never ran in the Foy.
Is seen as being better over 12f and has been off since June. Can see the angle for him but those factors would make me want MORE in terms of Price.
He could be entered for the Prix Consul De Paris the consolation ARC but hasn’t been entered for the German G1 after so wonder if he’s had a setback?
Can’t back that rogue Jan and at 9/4 can just watch the race.
I might have to miss this renewal. I'm doing a shift as a Soup Kitchen volunteer on this Saturday.
Good on you Impossible and you can always place your bets and catch up. What soup do they do?
'Delashay', I cannot have Jan at 9/4 against Scandinavia. He's ridiculously short unless insiders think only one will turn up, and the latter is unlikely; Scandinavia had won a fair share of his assignments so far, but did look lethargic last time. Maybe it's time for Jan to get a Gp 1 win but, I do not want to find out at 9/4 given the shenanigans AOB gets up too.
You’re right they feel in France that Scandinavia will have the Cadran as his target leaving this open for Jan but I can pass that chance.
I’d written another post which disappeared about the CHAMPION stakes, I see Segall has put up two, ASH can you put up his selections please?
My post on a soup kitchen has just disappeared. Weird.
When asked whether the Prix du Cadran at ParisLongchamp could be next, the trainer: “It’s possible. When Ryan came in there he said ‘what about the Cadran for the second horse, to give him a chance’.
“The third horse could go to Ascot for the two-mile race (Long Distance Cup) and then we could put him (Scandinavia) away for Ascot next year.
“You could go to France and the ground could be very bad for him. I don’t want to abuse him either because he’s a made Gold Cup horse. He floats on the fast ground.”
“The third horse could go to Ascot for the two-mile race (Long Distance Cup) and then we could put him (Scandinavia) away for Ascot next year.
“You could go to France and the ground could be very bad for him. I don’t want to abuse him either because he’s a made Gold Cup horse. He floats on the fast ground.”
Was t shirt weather last year
That can't happen again shirley?
That can't happen again shirley?
impossible123 15 Sep 26 18:29
I might have to miss this renewal. I'm doing a shift as a Soup Kitchen volunteer on this Saturday.
I might have to miss this renewal. I'm doing a shift as a Soup Kitchen volunteer on this Saturday.
Will the Obrains be bringing a squad over ?
“I don’t want to abuse him either” AOB (above)
A very great line that takes us into the mind of the trainer who uses Group horses as hares. So he is selective and does care for his horses, well some of them that is.
A very great line that takes us into the mind of the trainer who uses Group horses as hares. So he is selective and does care for his horses, well some of them that is.
I cannot have Jan at 9/4 against Scandinavia. He's ridiculously short unless insiders think only one will turn up, and the latter is unlikely; Scandinavia had won a fair share of his assignments so far, but did look lethargic last time. Maybe it's time for Jan to get a Gp 1 win but, I do not want to find out at 9/4 given the shenanigans AOB gets up too.
'Delashay', I did reply to your question on soup kitchen but the post was removed. Anyway, it's rewarding and mentally refreshing and satisfying doing it.
If I was not mistaken I read AOB was a "horse whisperer"; the bloke can read the minds of his charges. If so some of his charges are now either rebelling or in a confusing state of mind like some of his fanboys.
If I was not mistaken I read AOB was a "horse whisperer"; the bloke can read the minds of his charges. If so some of his charges are now either rebelling or in a confusing state of mind like some of his fanboys.
That’s ok Impossible and it’s good to give back and help others, very commendable.
As for AOB he talks more and more with no care of how ridiculous he sounds, last year he was saying Delacroix had the speed for a mile, he’s said the same about River this year!
As for AOB he talks more and more with no care of how ridiculous he sounds, last year he was saying Delacroix had the speed for a mile, he’s said the same about River this year!
The guy who tipped Best Secret for the Champion will be concerned if he’s backed him to know that he’s entered for the consolation Arc the Prix Consul De Paris. The day after Ascot.
It’d be a big thing to go to a G1 without a run since June.
In the same race I’ve backed Pearled Majesty EW @ 66/1 he has the Arc as an option, I gave my reasons on the Arc thread for why and asked someone to match my bet on him on the exchange, non of those who give it large regularly accepted!
Another forumite has backed A BoyNames Susie @ 33/1 who has been shortened, also today Varian’s Saddad is being cut for this and the Arc.
It’d be a big thing to go to a G1 without a run since June.
In the same race I’ve backed Pearled Majesty EW @ 66/1 he has the Arc as an option, I gave my reasons on the Arc thread for why and asked someone to match my bet on him on the exchange, non of those who give it large regularly accepted!
Another forumite has backed A BoyNames Susie @ 33/1 who has been shortened, also today Varian’s Saddad is being cut for this and the Arc.
Pearled Majesty
70
£0.97
£66.93
Ref: Matched: Sep-26
Brave layers!
70
£0.97
£66.93
Ref: Matched: Sep-26
Brave layers!
Delashay 27 Jan 19 22:51
As far as I am aware I personally own the only method which will produce a long term profit which is post endless amounts of copy & pasted quotes then claim the winner from one of these,not a "system" as popularly referred to and devised after 2 decades + of research.My sole motivation for posting on any racing or betting forum is to give the average punter an edge.No more,no less.
As far as I am aware I personally own the only method which will produce a long term profit which is post endless amounts of copy & pasted quotes then claim the winner from one of these,not a "system" as popularly referred to and devised after 2 decades + of research.My sole motivation for posting on any racing or betting forum is to give the average punter an edge.No more,no less.
Fabre’s recent winner Phineas is likley to go to Bahrain after the Dollor so no worries about him in the Champion Stakes.
Can;t be getting involved until we know about definite runners and riders and of course ground and draw. Andrew Balding still has the fillies and mare option for Kalpana but like Item last weekend he may be over ruled by Juddmonte and have to run her in the Arc. Sea The Fire ran in Montreal so may not run either. Blue Bolt would be a very strong choice for the mile but she has also run recently.
Delashay • September 8, 2026 3:58 PM BST
That looks about right on looking at Montreal
6/7 btn 5½L Varandir 9-3
4/5 btn 4¼L Baroud 9-3
Baroud is on a rating of 53 also as is Varindir
Though Pearled Majesty beat him with ease the time before, he’s only on 51 still, he has the margin for making up as had been off the track the longest in the Niel 70 days.
Not sure if his rating has been adjusted?
But I’m interested in where he goes next? He has also been entered for the Champion Stakes and I’ve had a little EW @ 66/1
If he swerves the Arc he’ll go for the Dollar which was won by Amnatt on his way to victory there.
Varindir is as low as 12’s so the 66’s EW for a race where many will have had a long hard season makes appeal to me
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That looks about right on looking at Montreal
6/7 btn 5½L Varandir 9-3
4/5 btn 4¼L Baroud 9-3
Baroud is on a rating of 53 also as is Varindir
Though Pearled Majesty beat him with ease the time before, he’s only on 51 still, he has the margin for making up as had been off the track the longest in the Niel 70 days.
Not sure if his rating has been adjusted?
But I’m interested in where he goes next? He has also been entered for the Champion Stakes and I’ve had a little EW @ 66/1
If he swerves the Arc he’ll go for the Dollar which was won by Amnatt on his way to victory there.
Varindir is as low as 12’s so the 66’s EW for a race where many will have had a long hard season makes appeal to me
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Varindir is as low as 12’s for the Arc
Pearled Majesty is likely to face Phineas should he go to the Dollar, but he’s heading to Bahrain after so they won’t bottom PM if the Champion is the target.
Calandagan is due to make his comeback at Ascot, it’s Ombudsman’s fav track, tough race but neither want it too soft.
Pearled Majesty is likely to face Phineas should he go to the Dollar, but he’s heading to Bahrain after so they won’t bottom PM if the Champion is the target.
Calandagan is due to make his comeback at Ascot, it’s Ombudsman’s fav track, tough race but neither want it too soft.
There’s another big move for Gstaad in the Champion Stakes, into 10’s as low as 6’s.
Was 25’s a couple of days ago when I’d said he’s into 16’s.
At the same time Ombudsman is being cut for the Breeders Cup. turf .
Was 25’s a couple of days ago when I’d said he’s into 16’s.
At the same time Ombudsman is being cut for the Breeders Cup. turf .
Christiane Head has won the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe as a coach three times: in 1979 with Three Troikas, in 2013 and 2014 with Trêve. She has not been training herself since the end of 2018. She's still not completely out of the arc.
Pearled Majesty, in which she holds a half stake, could compete in ParisLongchamp on October 4. The stallion is trained by Mauricio Delcher-Sanchez. After his third place in the Prix Niel, it is clear: the Prix Dollar the day before is off the table. Remains the Arc.
Delcher-Sanchez, however, makes the start dependent on the weather: if it rains, Pearled Majesty runs in the Arc. If the ground stays fast, you wait for the Champion Stakes on October
Pearled Majesty, in which she holds a half stake, could compete in ParisLongchamp on October 4. The stallion is trained by Mauricio Delcher-Sanchez. After his third place in the Prix Niel, it is clear: the Prix Dollar the day before is off the table. Remains the Arc.
Delcher-Sanchez, however, makes the start dependent on the weather: if it rains, Pearled Majesty runs in the Arc. If the ground stays fast, you wait for the Champion Stakes on October
AOB has been reported to have a change of running plan for Scandinavia. The horse could go for The Cadran on ARC Day instead of the Long Distance Cup on Champions Day at Ascot.
The short price of Jan is beginning to make more sense.
The short price of Jan is beginning to make more sense.
That was the French thinking Impossible that he’d head there for easy pickings if the ground was good.
As said on the Arc thread I cashed out my bet on PM.
Trainer hs said one thing and done another, I feel that Soumi thinks 10f is good not the 12f despite the horses run style.
Having cashed out at 66/1 yesterday it’s shat to see that Pearled has been halved to 33/1 this morning.
Just being given a run out in the Arc but being looked after for here?
Huge negative for the Arc on this likelihood.
Just being given a run out in the Arc but being looked after for here?
Huge negative for the Arc on this likelihood.
****s
Change of schedule for Pearled Majesty
Announced at the start of the Arc de Triomphe on Monday, Pearled Majesty will finally not be there on Sunday. Mauricio Delcher-Sanchez changed his plans.
Change of schedule for Pearled Majesty
Announced at the start of the Arc de Triomphe on Monday, Pearled Majesty will finally not be there on Sunday. Mauricio Delcher-Sanchez changed his plans.
Reversal of situation. Tuesday morning, just before the declaration of the second pass, Pearled Majesty left the list of candidates for the 2026 Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe even though his coach had confirmed his participation the day before. Attached to the phone, Mauricio Delcher-Sanchez explained this change of program: "The ground will be good on Sunday and it will not suit the horse. In these conditions, there are several horses that are better than us. So we prefer to wait for the rains and run him in Ascot in the Champion Stakes so that he can win the group I he deserves. This morning, he just went on a canter ».
Basteros!
Was half high from my treatment yesterday and realised they were only gonna gonna give him a run out in the Arc
Basteros!
Was half high from my treatment yesterday and realised they were only gonna gonna give him a run out in the Arc
1 DARYZ M.PS. 4 A. 59,5 kg 57.5
2 SADDADD IRE M.PS. 4 A. 59,5 kg 53.5
3 CHESTNUT ROCKET M.PS. 4 A. 59,5 kg 51.0
4 ADMIRE TERRA JPN M.PS. 5 A. 59,5 kg 52.0
5 MEISHO TABARU JPN M.PS. 5 A. 59,5 kg 55.5
6 ARROW EAGLE M.PS. 5 A. 59,5 kg 51.5
7 BAY CITY ROLLER IRE M.PS. 4 A. 59,5 kg 56.0
8 MINNIE HAUK IRE F.PS. 4 A. 58 kg 54.5
9 KALPANA GB F.PS. 5 A. 58 kg 56.5
10 VARANDIR M.PS. 3 A. 56,5 kg 53.0
11 BENVENUTO CELLINI IRE M.PS. 3 A. 56,5 kg 55.5
12 Bright Light M.ps. 3 A. 56,5 kg 51.5
13 MALTESE CROSS M.PS. 3 A. 56,5 kg 56.0
14 THUNDERING ON GB F.PS. 3 A. 55 kg 53.0
15 DIAMOND NECKLACE (IRE) F.PS. 3 A. 55 kg 54.5
Supp stage tomoz with Friendly Soul a possible wirh her win and you’re in from the Vermille
2 SADDADD IRE M.PS. 4 A. 59,5 kg 53.5
3 CHESTNUT ROCKET M.PS. 4 A. 59,5 kg 51.0
4 ADMIRE TERRA JPN M.PS. 5 A. 59,5 kg 52.0
5 MEISHO TABARU JPN M.PS. 5 A. 59,5 kg 55.5
6 ARROW EAGLE M.PS. 5 A. 59,5 kg 51.5
7 BAY CITY ROLLER IRE M.PS. 4 A. 59,5 kg 56.0
8 MINNIE HAUK IRE F.PS. 4 A. 58 kg 54.5
9 KALPANA GB F.PS. 5 A. 58 kg 56.5
10 VARANDIR M.PS. 3 A. 56,5 kg 53.0
11 BENVENUTO CELLINI IRE M.PS. 3 A. 56,5 kg 55.5
12 Bright Light M.ps. 3 A. 56,5 kg 51.5
13 MALTESE CROSS M.PS. 3 A. 56,5 kg 56.0
14 THUNDERING ON GB F.PS. 3 A. 55 kg 53.0
15 DIAMOND NECKLACE (IRE) F.PS. 3 A. 55 kg 54.5
Supp stage tomoz with Friendly Soul a possible wirh her win and you’re in from the Vermille
Pearled MAJESTY as low as 20’s now since the fiasco with his Arc entry and the rollox connections talked beforehand. 
Sads are taking a stand @ 33’s and I can see why he’s very fractious so on that score with the Ascot tunnel I can see that.
In his recent galop he was on his toes, depending on how those from the Niel do in the Arc only Varindar left his price will either go in or out!
In his recent galop he was on his toes, depending on how those from the Niel do in the Arc only Varindar left his price will either go in or out!
Glad I’d chased out my bet and lost respect for connections of Pearled Majesty.
Only the One 3 yr old colt there says a lot about this years crop.
As both Gstaad and Constitution won’t run.
Pretty unexciting race in store.
Only the One 3 yr old colt there says a lot about this years crop.
As both Gstaad and Constitution won’t run.
Pretty unexciting race in store.
Trainer says
She looks fantastic. She came on very well from her last win. She is running tomorrow at Saint-Cloud. And if everything goes well, she will either go for the French Oaks or the Ribblesdale Stakes.
She looks fantastic. She came on very well from her last win. She is running tomorrow at Saint-Cloud. And if everything goes well, she will either go for the French Oaks or the Ribblesdale Stakes.
Said last year so thought that the trip would be in her range, wanted a year to bring her to Ascot.
Trainer says:
She ran really, really well the other day. She now looks much more like her mother Bateel. She is very strong, very different to last year. She might also run in the Group 3 at Saint-Cloud, where I might end up having three runners. She is a nice prospect and hopefully she can climb the ladder.
She ran really, really well the other day. She now looks much more like her mother Bateel. She is very strong, very different to last year. She might also run in the Group 3 at Saint-Cloud, where I might end up having three runners. She is a nice prospect and hopefully she can climb the ladder.
The above referred to Tajina, it’s a win and you’re in for the F&M turf who might be looking to go there out of all these runner?
James Wigan loves sending one to the US for that race.
James Wigan loves sending one to the US for that race.
Below form figures for Brussels which to me look solid, on the in between run, Comanche Brave beat American Affair 1L+
5/7 btn 5¼L Soul Love 9-2
7/17 btn 5¼L Comanche Brave 9-6
12/15 btn 5¾L American Affair 9-4
5/7 btn 5¼L Soul Love 9-2
7/17 btn 5¼L Comanche Brave 9-6
12/15 btn 5¾L American Affair 9-4
I do not fancy any of AOB's with the exception of Gstaad. I think he'd valid excuses for his last run in France. I think he'd reward his supporters at 11/4 today.
I have to confess that despite who trained him, I gave Mount Atlas no chance but I,m thrilled for PJ McDonald who has ridden so many of the Balding winners this season. And 6 people tipped him in the Competition!!
Almeraq duly landed the sprint but it was a close run thing. Danny Tudhope and Ed Bethell have had another good season.
Lovely winner for them congrats, some races I avoid and that is one, I’d not get too heavily involved in anything over the straight mile here.
Kalpana I know might of had a tough season. But at this track I only see her winning. Im I stupid getting involved at 2.2 with a mare? My only bet this week
We will soon find out
Good Luck everyone today!
We will soon find out
Good Luck everyone today!
My thinking is if it wasnt for the Longchamp run, she would be 1.3 thats my view. And my heart is pumping
My only negative is the stall 1. Might sound weird, but I dont like that at Ascot
Might sound weird, but I dont like that at Ascot
I hope Kalpana wins for the Baldings. She's 'Denise's superboost though.
One race too many for Kalpana. She's run flat and was never winning.
Francesca said o winners from 1 in this just before the off, but agree they took her to the well too often, should have skipped the Arc.
*no
That’s a skimmer for that race in the tipping comp?
That’s a skimmer for that race in the tipping comp?
Taken a while but they finally figured out how to do pacemaking....
It looked like big Pat was leading Sugar Island! Seemed deserted by him
Wayne Lordon would have been 20 lenghts clear at half way and then tail off, i think she finished fourth. great riding by Soumillon .
Delashay 27 Jan 19 22:51
U have a previous Account or is that Rico messing about ?
U have a previous Account or is that Rico messing about ?
They got it right and it must have seemed easy, with Kap missing the break and being frazzled.
Bad riding from PC Bodout
Bad riding from PC Bodout
Previous account? 
Hmmmm what would I choose if I was after another user name?!
No new here.
Hmmmm what would I choose if I was after another user name?!
No new here.
Money for Gstaad. He was supplemented for the QE2 Stakes.
Has anyone asked Mr Gosden if he's happy with the ground for Ombudsman? I think it's prudent for Mr Gosden to declare his opinion prior to the race.
One of Aiden's hotpots out of the first 6. Just Constitution River left to get clear of Balding. Very good run from Talk of new York who might be awesome next year.
Agreed Del. On my speed map I had him up in 4th or 5th early on but typically, the one weakness
Soumillon has is a tendency to be back too far and sure enough he was last early. Missed 2nd by a
neck. Could have won if not so far out of it early.
Soumillon has is a tendency to be back too far and sure enough he was last early. Missed 2nd by a
neck. Could have won if not so far out of it early.
Maybe Gasstd needed that step up Impossible can’t say I feel for them having talked all that crud about him going for the next race and river here.
Used the sickness as an excuse before.
True Roggrain and I didn’t expect those extreme hold up tactics, seems one that’s been underestimated all year.
Used the sickness as an excuse before.
True Roggrain and I didn’t expect those extreme hold up tactics, seems one that’s been underestimated all year.
As said earlier in the year after his win in Dubai Calandagan ain’t the same horse this year.
they damaged him in the coronation cup, should never have run that day
That didn’t help John, but going to Dubai after Japan was the bit too much for me travelling wise.
Still great horses and they’ve run their hearts out.
Hope you all enjoyed!
Still great horses and they’ve run their hearts out.
Hope you all enjoyed!
Oct 17, 2026 -- 4:06PM, elisjohn wrote:
they damaged him in the coronation cup, should never have run that day
yep
Or Ombudsman has improved. Holiday for Havlin? He clearly thought he was last when Almaqam came past him but he could have beaten Constitution River if he had ridden his horse out. Cost Godolphin £17000 but more importantly gave Aiden £17000 extra towards the championship. The trainers cahamps still very open. If Aiden wins the Futurity next Saturday he might still win but if he doesn't, Andrew only needs about £15,000 per week for the rest of the year to overtake him. Aiden only has 17 in the Futurity!!
It looks a long season for some of these, he was lame there (Havelin)
Roll on the Breeders Cup and Hong Kong in December!
Ciao!
Roll on the Breeders Cup and Hong Kong in December!
Ciao!
sageform • October 17, 2026 4:12 PM BST
Ombudsman has improved.
horses usually reach full maturity @ 5 so prob has
Ombudsman has improved.
horses usually reach full maturity @ 5 so prob has
They’re both 5 year olds, many more miles on Calandagan’s clock.
Graffard said earlier in the year that he didn’t want to send Daryz over 1m 4f too often as it takes a lot out of them.
Graffard said earlier in the year that he didn’t want to send Daryz over 1m 4f too often as it takes a lot out of them.
Calandagan has been outbattled twice now, last year he found, the spirit is there but not the ability for me against better horses than he’s beaten this year.
horses usually reach full maturity @ 5 so prob has
obv not watered the railed off strip...an utter khazi
Delashay, watch the Champion Stakes again. Havlin drops his hands on Devils Advocate nearly a furlong out but as soon as he realised that Ryan was still behind him, he starts riding hard again and there was only a neck between them at the line. Don't tell me that Rob Havlin did that on a lame horse!
I hope AOB / Coolmore would give Con River another season to repent. At the moment the horse will struggle to get mares in the breeding shed. Similarly, Gstaad.
Once again despite the numerous bullets and funds at their disposal AOB / Coolmore have come up short again. Not one proper Gp 1 winner that was undefeated. At this rate they'll not find anything worthy to join the elites eg Mpntjeu or Suave Dancer let alone Dancing Brave, Frankel, Almanzor or Golden Horn in my life time or theirs, I think.
Once again despite the numerous bullets and funds at their disposal AOB / Coolmore have come up short again. Not one proper Gp 1 winner that was undefeated. At this rate they'll not find anything worthy to join the elites eg Mpntjeu or Suave Dancer let alone Dancing Brave, Frankel, Almanzor or Golden Horn in my life time or theirs, I think.
The handicapper had the Champion Stakes spot on. Ombudsman 5lb ahead of Calandagan who he beat 3 lengths. Bay City Roller 3lb back equal third with Almaqam. They were 1.5 and 2 lengths behind Calandagan. Constitution River rated fifth best which is where he finished then Devils Advocate, who might have been third had he not been used as a pacemaker, rated a stone last so he was the only one to run above his rating.
Only the Coolmore 2yos were really dominant but they still managed to win the Derby and the Irish Derby.
I see it from the side on when Ruby watched back, he said Moore wasn’t even going a yard or trying to extend at that point, so Halvin was caught napping!
Impossible you’re right, no champ, but I can’t knock the efforts of Gstadd, he went to nearly every major race (moulin being lesser than the Marois) had a busy year last year and it’s remarkable that he’s gone on this long as they were hard races early summer.
Earlier in the year when asked Baldin said today was the aim for Kaplana, they got swayed after the King George but those hard races took its toll on her.
Not great planning.
Sage I meant Havlin’s effort of lack of was lame. Doubly lame/bad when you hear what Ruby was saying on the play back.
Sounded like he felt Moore was hanging on desperately to keep him straight.
After Gethin hung in the September stakes Brown suggested the chop was imminent, could be River is now at that stage racing wise and become too coltish to be seen again.
Earlier in the year when asked Baldin said today was the aim for Kaplana, they got swayed after the King George but those hard races took its toll on her.
Not great planning.
Sage I meant Havlin’s effort of lack of was lame. Doubly lame/bad when you hear what Ruby was saying on the play back.
Sounded like he felt Moore was hanging on desperately to keep him straight.
After Gethin hung in the September stakes Brown suggested the chop was imminent, could be River is now at that stage racing wise and become too coltish to be seen again.
With regards to Gstaad AOB / Coolmore were trying to exact a defeat to Bow Echo. Gstaad has had several hard races chasing the shadows of Bow Echo. He then went wrong, and missed an intended assignment hence the race race in France.
Today he ran like Kalpana - two exhausted horses. I believe Gstaad, Puerto Rico and Hawk Mountain have been mismanaged by AOB / Coolmore.
No more punting in horseracing unless it's a superboost until Cheltenham.
Today he ran like Kalpana - two exhausted horses. I believe Gstaad, Puerto Rico and Hawk Mountain have been mismanaged by AOB / Coolmore.
No more punting in horseracing unless it's a superboost until Cheltenham.
They did, maybe he was cut at Goodwood and not the same? I’m surprised at how they’ve campaigned a few this year.
We have Erdenali to look forwards to against Talk Of New York. As a gelding and if he runs well in Japan, I wonder if Calandagan will go for the Japan Cup on the back of that today?
We have Erdenali to look forwards to against Talk Of New York. As a gelding and if he runs well in Japan, I wonder if Calandagan will go for the Japan Cup on the back of that today?
What are the 3 yr old geldings that could run in The ARC next year? I think the opportunity to win it with Calandagan has passed.
Yes it has and with the going this year as it was.
Can’t think of any that were better than the colts who came up short
Can’t think of any that were better than the colts who came up short
Cracking Win by Ombudsmen today.
Like to see them give him a crack in the BC Turf.
Like to see them give him a crack in the BC Turf.
I think after today that it's now obvious to me that Calandagan has regressed as some on here thought a few months ago but I doubted
as I'm always prepared to forgive a below par run...but they're now adding up with him and he's settling on a mark which looks about
6lb light of his best.
I was certain he was not the same horse as last year in the King George for reasons unknown to me (and I'd assume FHG too) and I've said
a few times that I was astonished he never picked up Kalpana when he came to challenge at Ascot - watching it live...I didn't even flinch
as I fully expected him to bound past her.
I'm now considering maybe that these tough races when Barzalona's given him a great deal to do have left their mark as I can't recall a
5yo G1 horse in several decades that's regressed like him - they never do...and they usually find more.
I was bewildered how Ombudsman was so easily brushed aside by Calandagan in last year's renewal (it's a bigger mystery after today) and I
was very pleased to see him take his revenge in style earlier...and I didn't even have a bet in the race - I really rate both of them so I'd
love to see Calandagan bounce back in the Japan Cup...before returning next year. Maybe Soumillon should keep the mount in future?
as I'm always prepared to forgive a below par run...but they're now adding up with him and he's settling on a mark which looks about
6lb light of his best.
I was certain he was not the same horse as last year in the King George for reasons unknown to me (and I'd assume FHG too) and I've said
a few times that I was astonished he never picked up Kalpana when he came to challenge at Ascot - watching it live...I didn't even flinch
as I fully expected him to bound past her.
I'm now considering maybe that these tough races when Barzalona's given him a great deal to do have left their mark as I can't recall a
5yo G1 horse in several decades that's regressed like him - they never do...and they usually find more.
I was bewildered how Ombudsman was so easily brushed aside by Calandagan in last year's renewal (it's a bigger mystery after today) and I
was very pleased to see him take his revenge in style earlier...and I didn't even have a bet in the race - I really rate both of them so I'd
love to see Calandagan bounce back in the Japan Cup...before returning next year. Maybe Soumillon should keep the mount in future?
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