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GEORGE.B
15 Sep 26 12:29
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two races with the wrong result - and those in authority still can't bring themselves to act"

Is the headline for Tom Segal's piece in the Weekender

https://www.racingpost.com/news/opinion/comment/two-blatant-cases-of-poor-riding-two-races-with-the-wrong-result-and-those-in-authority-still-cant-bring-themselves-to-act-a3Gfy7N8ENqP/

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By:
stu
When: 15 Sep 26 12:30
Just saw that too - looks an interesting article for once, but behind paywall.

Could anyone please post it? Thanks in advance.
By:
uptheirons
When: 15 Sep 26 12:33
The Stewards did act but not in the way Seagal wanted.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 15 Sep 26 12:36
I'm surprised he thinks that about Final Objective's win in the Flying Childers, because imo, from what they showed of the head-on, PJ McDonald was going for a gap that wasn't really there, and when James Doyle's mount went left, PJ's mount was lucky not to be brought down.

I think the stewards were correct not to ban Doyle, because his mount going left suddenly was not because of him riding in such a manner to cause that to happen.
By:
uptheirons
When: 15 Sep 26 12:40
Agreed entirely,George.
Sanders never did too much thinking when he rode and hasn't changed
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 15 Sep 26 12:50
At Doncaster, James Doyle didn't even get a ban for his winning ride on Final Objective in the Flying Childers Stakes, despite the fact that PJ McDonald was nearly brought down on In The Black. Quite clearly In The Black was denied a chance of winning the race through no fault of his own and he was beaten only two short heads for third place.

Has Segal even seen the head-on?

At most I'd say the gap was about 3/4s open and McDonald was trying to ride his mount into it.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 15 Sep 26 12:56
uptheirons, I've just watched some of the coverage and seen that Sanders was calling for horses to be thrown out, but surprised he thought that in this instance, as imo if there was a jockey at fault, it was McDonald.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 15 Sep 26 13:03
The head-on can be viewed here

https://www.attheraces.com/atrplayer-popout/programmes/1573949/Raceday%20Live/11-September-2026

Actual time 2:29:40

or around 1:59:50 of the recording
By:
uptheirons
When: 15 Sep 26 13:12
Yes,I have seen it.
Seagal talking nonsense imo
By:
slickster
When: 15 Sep 26 14:45
SEGAL. There's a good chap.
By:
formoftheace
When: 15 Sep 26 14:47
Poor rides every day,haven’t you noticed ?
By:
pmbets
When: 15 Sep 26 15:07
The big worry is these market drifts on a nhorse less than a minute before the off.We see a horse trading all day at say 15/8 then less than a min. before the off it drifts to 5/1.Almost everytime the horse runs the worst race you could imagine and most of the time comes unplaced.A few years ago that never happened.When you are on a minute before the off drifter you can see your money go up in smoke before the race is even off.There must be someone to takes charge of this and investigates these drifters/poor rides horses.
By:
shoodacoodadidnt
When: 15 Sep 26 16:15
first time I've seen the head-on, Not Doyle's fault, very unlucky the grey, but when you have sprinters in a line pretty much going flat out, there are going to be incidents and hard luck stories of course - not for the faint hearted
By:
uptheirons
When: 15 Sep 26 16:19
Exactly,shooda.
Some on here think they are driving cars instead of half a ton of race horse
By:
formoftheace
When: 15 Sep 26 16:28
Shocked
By:
uptheirons
When: 15 Sep 26 16:29
Or,Lorry's in Aceform's caseLaugh
By:
formoftheace
When: 15 Sep 26 16:48
Most riding nowadays are capable nothing more imv…
By:
uptheirons
When: 15 Sep 26 16:51
WTF does a clown like you know about race riding,Aceform?
By:
formoftheace
When: 15 Sep 26 17:01
Don’t be silly Walter lots of them are point and shoot….

Show some respect for stable work riders who do the graft ……foolish man.
By:
formoftheace
When: 15 Sep 26 17:05
How many times do you hear jocks say so and so should get the credit he does all the work and gets him ready…..ignoramous.
By:
uptheirons
When: 15 Sep 26 17:12
Laugh
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