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09 Aug 26 17:05
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two horses in the 5.01 Chepstow out of 6 runners, and manages neither in top 3 in the race - some skill that.

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By:
stu
When: 09 Aug 26 17:05
*is
By:
stu
When: 09 Aug 26 17:08
Not big prices either...
By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Aug 26 17:09
He does well with the low level horses he is sent with over a hundred winners a season
By:
stu
When: 09 Aug 26 17:10
Picks the 'on' ones well yes. But othertimes...like this one....
By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Aug 26 17:26
It is a scattergun approach and always has been.
Good luck trying to guess them,stu.
By:
stu
When: 09 Aug 26 17:35
scattergun implies it's never deliberate, so not a good description IMO.
By:
stu
When: 09 Aug 26 17:35
deliberate either way too.
By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Aug 26 17:49
I know a great deal more about the Yard than you,but feel free to think otherwise,stu.
By:
DixieDean60
When: 09 Aug 26 17:59
Struggling to see what the issue is here.

Two horses in a run of the mill 6 runner handicap start at SP's of 6/1 and 15/2 and finish 4th and 5th. Not far off where the market would have put them.

Not talking a Dick Francis plot here are we Laugh
By:
DixieDean60
When: 09 Aug 26 17:59
Struggling to see what the issue is here.

Two horses in a run of the mill 6 runner handicap start at SP's of 6/1 and 15/2 and finish 4th and 5th. Not far off where the market would have put them.

Not talking a Dick Francis plot here are we Laugh
By:
stu
When: 09 Aug 26 18:18
TBH 'insiders' approach is exactly why I have that view irons, thanks for confirming it!
By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Aug 26 18:20
That's ok,stu.
The Yard are no way as shrewd as most think
By:
stu
When: 09 Aug 26 18:20
They may certainly not be the punters friend, but they know who their 'friends' are for sure this mob.
By:
stu
When: 09 Aug 26 18:21
will have to agree to disagree with that view irons.
By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Aug 26 18:22
"Insiders" have existed since the dawn of Racing
By:
stu
When: 09 Aug 26 18:26
Yes, and some stables go down that line of approach far more than others....
By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Aug 26 18:29
Lower grade horses dictate opportunities available.
When was life fair?
By:
stu
When: 09 Aug 26 18:30
I understand the motives for sure.
By:
uptheirons
When: 09 Aug 26 18:32
Far safer to back better grade races,imo.
By:
kincsem
When: 10 Aug 26 10:20
I agree with comment to stick to better grade races.
At lower levels it if like lottery balls, no idea who will fall into the 1,2,3 holes.
It is like trying to pick the best slice of bread in a sliced pan.
By:
Busyfool
When: 10 Aug 26 10:30
its well enough known that ironmaiden was part of carrolls for a while as a retained hairdresser but chucked it in when it became clear he had to be shorn 3 times a day

the upturn in t c's fortunes coincided with iron exit and his special hair tonic being fed to the horses
By:
formoftheace
When: 10 Aug 26 10:57
Same stamp as the late dandy Nicholls tbf……
By:
uptheirons
When: 10 Aug 26 11:53
Be very careful about your next post,Aceform
By:
formoftheace
When: 10 Aug 26 11:54
I’m talking training ability……

Taking horses from other yards and winning races with them……Bla.
By:
uptheirons
When: 10 Aug 26 12:00
A fair comparison.
BTW,I know as much about hairdressing as Busy does about sobrietyLaugh
By:
Busyfool
When: 10 Aug 26 12:45
sober now. most disagreeable

soon to be rectified
By:
uptheirons
When: 10 Aug 26 13:01
Quite so,Busy.
By:
Hushwing.
When: 10 Aug 26 13:38
TC stable of last couple of seasons has changed imo . They've definitely become more shrewd and selective with certain horses. Yes they have a selection of moderate horses that just run every week, a scattergun approach.
Another thing i noted is horses have been going in on their first run for the stable , clearly doing something to sweeten them.
By:
mrcombustible
When: 10 Aug 26 13:48
He is good at Bath when starting Fav.

From Flatstats
RSB Turf Stat[nl][/nl]31 wins, 64 runs, 48.4% strike rate, 1.66 A/E, 71.3% profit, 18.6 Exp, 11.5 Archie
By:
TCat
When: 10 Aug 26 14:22
He got a friend's horse to win second time out. It was well handicapped on it's 2 year old form but had been running like a drain with a top Yorkshire trainer. It was well backed into second favourite and won easy; that said they had expected it to win on it's first run for him.
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