bookies on stretchers

laying at 10/11 and having it back on here at 11/8

they'll be ok ....

The shops will be suffering with all the accas
5 from 5 on the TV races, all odds against at BOG

Hulk

Do you really think any rails or tatts bookmaker at goodwood had 10/11 on there boards at any stage some one like you who has the game by the bollox should know the online/ high street bookmakers choose the prices.perhaps you you to get out into the real world sometimes.

It is futile debating with Hulk,jimnast.

Your right uptheirons I should no better.

Don't worry,I have stood for it a few times as well,jimnast

where they get 10/11 from, 2.3 all day long on here

Clueless pretendee 1.08

Fashion it’s been going on since the pandemic when the online were temporary allowed to return there own sp ,I spoke to nick rust who basically passed that temporary rule he isn’t interested I’m not suggesting there were any brown envelopes,but clowns like hulk still think it’s the on course.

I do not suppose for a moment that Hulk does too much thinking

only watch the festivals these days Jim, assume the shops holding there hands up
bookies on track going 6/5, 5/4 trying it to smash out of it

I think that’s very probable fashion even the joint fav won the Arab race.

i'm sure they were all going 13/8 when it was 2.34 here

pmsl

Oh dear

indeed

mate at track just got 9/1 bobby bennu

8.2 here

Now that would surprise me

You having any mates

On course if they is short one  there will be more flashing red lights than my disco days lost on every race so far at Goodwood today.
Will still eat well and enjoy a nice glass of red.
Ronnie.

Fellow Inmates,perhaps

EVERY RACE.
Ronnie.

Good afternoon Ronnie hope your well you haven’t gone to goodwood have you ?

Jimnast.
Had to visit the dentist yesterday tooth out dont know what hurt more that or the results today looking forward to 3 weeks today.got a nice picture today of a nice bottle of wine in a lovely Italian restaraunt.
Ronnie.

I’m also looking forward 3 weeks today it would be interesting if the bow echo connections choose to run on the opening day like frankel did after winning the Sussex stakes .

Impossible shoes to fill,though

Yes uptheirons I’m sure your right but it was at 4 when frankel really excelled I know he was very good at 3 ,however if you compare the fields and the performances in the 3 group ones both won up till this stage there wouldn’t be much in it I know frankel beat can ford cliffs but the overall opposition bow echo has raced against is better,I’ve no idea what the plans are for bow echo ,I don’t ever expect to see one as good as frankel but this one is much better than the haggis horse a few years ago which some where trying to compare with him,anyway breeders cup ,lockinge,Queen Anne,a second Sussex the judmonte then finish at Ascot in the champion stakes who knows

Fast ground is a prerequsite,jimnast

Loved going to York, went a few times, apart from the jacket rule been well looked after and you dont feel ripped off with prices, Goodwood £105 a bottle of Veuve! used to drink in hotel oppo York station a nice place to finish the day off

Jimnast.
I can still remeber the day Frankel won at York never seen anything like it Darlo station was packed the trains were packed the course was bouncing the only sad thing was i saw the great man and said to myself thats the last time i will see him.
Ronnie.

France and then America, apparently. Makes for a pretty long season.

Sounds daft but Queally was still crapping himself in Frankel's 3yo season, infamously almost got him beat in the SJP. If you think of what he did in the royal lodge, letting the horse go before the turn at Ascot, 5 wide. Lucky for him he was on the best horse that ever raced in England.

On a plus Deptford they have eased up a bit with dress code at one time even if it was in the mid 30s you couldn’t take your jacket off on the negative side the prices have caught up with other grade one tracks.

Deptford.
York still the best course in the county and that bar is still a lovely place to finish the day off.
Hope you are well.
Ronnie.

No race fan will ever forget the race, but obviously he managed to give him a hard race in the 2000 which was totally unnecessary. Granted, nobody will ever know if he could have used his energy more efficiently.

Jimnast.
I agree the prices have  gone up.

I remember the day also Ronnie I saw all his races at 4 with the exception of Newbury it was the same everywhere although by York and finally at Ascot it had become incredible.

Cider I thought I heard them say America hope they change there mind ,fair enough France .

Cheers Ronnie, all good, hope you well

Jimnast.
Regarding prices the new guy at Cheltenham is looking after the oap members  235 for the season.been a member at York since i had a junior members badge over 50 years .not a penny off for 50 years loyalty.
Ronnie.

That’s good to hear Ronnie ,what age is a pensioner it’s seems to vary,I must be close

Obviously very young trainer jockey partnership, I imagine an exciting trip to the US is rather appealing. I'm not quite sure how it works when the ownership is executors, I should imagine they will want to protect the asset.

Surely 65?

soon be 70 with andy crapp

in seriousness, obviously this is my game and they are definitely working towards making it 68 soon.

It’s a matter of opinion cider if a trip to America is exciting.

It is if you go to Vegas

It would be if I was 20! Travelling is exciting at that age, and the glory of showing the horse off stateside (they'd hope).

The complete inverse of Frankel in that respect, for obvious reasons.

Im 63 next month and still go all wonky when the plane lands there

Never been to vegas Deptford been to a few other places and just found it ok ,cider I find travelling more exciting now than I did when I was younger other than missing the obvious

I thought America was brilliant, personally. I only did the disney parks / cape canaveral thing in Florida, but it was easily the best holiday of my life and I'd recommend everyone to do it once. It is a fair challenge not to eat way too much. They consider 50 chicken wings a starter.

Yes I agree there cider everyone who is able to should do it once same with New York ,the cost in New York is outrageous,

The first time I did the Disney parks there was only Epcot,sea world and magic kingdom I think universal was been built.

Oh yes they can eat cider there none of that cereal nonsense as a breakfast starter a dozen pancakes is what they go for ,and it’s a box of eggs with your full breakfast

yes we did universal as well so it was after you went. we also did one that was near cape canaveral, the flagship and biggest ride was still wooden. Now that was an experience We did this ride called duelling dragons, two rides where your legs dangled and as the name suggests, they made you feel like you were going to hit the other ride (dragon). I believe people were killed on it soon after we got home and the ride is no more. The kraken in sea world was my fav.

jimnast

You heard right - George Boughey said - One of 2 races in France, and then the Breeders Cup.

He said he - 'thought Bow Echo would love it going left-handed on Firm ground'

Thought that somewhat strange statement, myself - seeing that his last 2 races have been Right-handed around a bend (Goodwood and Ascot) preceded by Straight races at Newmarket.

Admittedly he won his first 2 races at Newbury and Haydock - But even Newbury was the Straight Mile.

Funny you mention rides I stayed down in London for a few days after ascot at the weekend and went to chessington and Lego land rides have certainly changed there was one at chessington that stopped for about 5 seconds whilst you was upside down I won’t be rushing back

Jimnast.
RE York i can stil see Brian taking the 1/9 saying it must start 1/10

What French race would he run left handed onlooker? I remember the haydock race he looked beat the second 10s on in running

Here's a very short clip of DD RIP, if anyone is interested. ffs can't believe I did that !

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/M2lO0VGwYG4

I've only done one English 'adventure' park. Not so much of the adventure for me, more smuggling in alcohol. Those were the days.

I can imagine Ronnie

He must have been in early enough to prepare for the 2000. The conditions for the BC should be fine, but that's an awfully long season to stretch out to travelling to the US for November. I realise he has not had a lot of runs, but they have been tough and it's hard to believe he will still be able to produce his best then without a long midseason break. Clearly, the handling of the horse so far can't be questioned, but France and the BC seems a step too far to me.

jimnast
   
He definitely said ..

    Prix Jacques Le Marois    - Deauville    1,600 metres     3yo+ c&f

Think the other was - 
        Prix Maurice de Gheest    - Deauville    1,300    3yo+

ADD:

By ' Going LEFT-handed .... He meant .... The BREEDERS CUP.

No left handed bends onlooker is what I meant both those races a great races in there own right I hope he wins them both then goes to Ascot for the qe 2 and knocks the American idea on the head.

Got it breeders cup left handed hopefully for the horses stake the lad or lass who takes great care of him isn’t turned away at the airport for something they might have posted 7 years ago

He never mentioned The QE2, nor Champion Stakes (as a Longshot)

I still get the collywobbles thinking about DANCING BRAVE.

One of the few times Alex Bird lost his discipline.

Hopefully champion stakes at 4 after York

Dancing brave is the reason I don’t want them going to America to be perfectly honest they can shove the breeders cup up there arse.

We think exactly the same, jimnast - and share the same sentiments.

Yes we do onlooker

Four-year old career.

Start off in the Lockinge > Queen Anne (or possibly try 1m2f in the Prince of Wales) > Sussex, again > Juddmonte at York > Champion Stakes ...
then, as he loves Firm ground, maybe a shot at one of thosee big Pots  at Sha Tin, or Far East fixtures.

And as for that Japanese horse who won’t come to royal Ascot because the prize money isn’t good enough I’m sure royal Ascot will be fine without it.

We won’t quibble of which royal Ascot race onlooker either would be great I suppose if he won the prince of wales it would bring in the eclipse that race needs a kick up the bum.

We won’t quibble over the royal Ascot race onlooker either would be great,a win in the prince of wales brings in a possibility of the eclipse

A  very good article on the rp about todays results.
Looked like buisness was shocking.
Ronnie.

True - and Right-handed again, at Sandown. 

- or are we getting at bit beyond ourselves, and maybe the horse?

As they say - 'One can but dream'.

Possibly onlooker on both accounts but with these connections I would be pretty confident they would race again at 4 unless something went wrong.

Just read it Ronnie Jerry white seems a bit of a celebrity they had him on the tele as well today.

laying at 10/11 and having it back on here at 11/8

Hulk, i was on course yesterday and i didn't see any bookie offering 19/11. Best i saw was 6/5, then 11/10.

Morning Jimnast, a cracking day at Goodwood yesterday, although i only had 3 bets, all on Bow Echo. I had forgotten how nice Goodwood is, i was last there as a synidcate owner with Salamanca Lad in 2023. The reception for Billy and Bow Echo was fantastic, worth the entry alone (as was the free Strawberries ).

didn't see any bookie offering 10/11

0 too close to 9

Good morning Andrew glad you had a nice day it came over on the tv as a great reception for bow echo he’s a horse who the public like which is very understandable,it’s the one festival I don’t go to very often but I must admit I’ve missed it this year with such good weather and good racing,the flat season so far has been fantastic hopefully that can continue at York,Doncaster and Ayr .

Jimnast, Bow Echo certainly has a public following and this could increase as the season progresses of course, although comparisons with Frankel are absolute nonsense, i'm surprised the media persists with it, the horse doesn't need this to sell seats. I agree he should go for the QEII and miss the razamatazz that is the Breeders. I would love him to go to Longchamp during Arc weekend.

From the very mouth of Billy, 'we'd like to showcase it across the world [BE's talent].

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QwrhZz6sNvY

Of course plans in racing change all the time, no doubt as of now, the primary objective is Keeneland.

Racing only matters in the uk,Ireland and France Andrew I think the ground at Ascot might put them of sadly

Hi Jimnast,yes Jerry seems to be a man who can turn his hand to most things,I see he calls himself a propunter (along with thousands of others nowadays),then refers to himself in the singular in the betting ring,impressive stuff.

Jerry White tells more tales than Rudyard Kipling

Britains most wanted fare dodger.

Hello ribero

Yes watching him at Ascot on Saturday he has more followers than the pied piper quite amazing how grown men are so proud to have there photo with him.