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GEORGE.B
24 Jul 26 10:38
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Seems rather harsh imo as it's a different discipline.

I don't know how long this has been the case for but I noticed one the other day, and interestingly today in the opener at Kilbeggan, it doesn't actually state that Earthwatch is in effect penalised 8lb for having won a race on the Flat, rather they just give the "non-winners" under any rules of racing an 8lb allowance Crazy
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Report salmon spray July 24, 2026 10:41 AM BST
Similar logic to not allowing flat runners to compete in "bumpers"
Report GEORGE.B July 24, 2026 10:44 AM BST
But that applies to both GB & Ire, Flat winners aren't penalised over jumps in GB.
Report salmon spray July 24, 2026 10:48 AM BST
Different jurisdiction. Different rules.
Report CagliariG July 24, 2026 11:25 AM BST
Nothing to do with the rules SS, just the race conditions and not just flat winners, applies also to bumpers and PTP and fillies also get the 7lb allowance in addition. The race is 4yo only but in 4yo+ they would get an age allowance, 5lb I think and fillies would also get 7lb in addition.
Report salmon spray July 24, 2026 11:46 AM BST
Yes fair enough,different race conditions.
I can remember a time when the fillies allowance on the flat was almost invariably 3lbs and there was no allowance at all over jumps. Bumpers didn't exist in GB only in Ireland where they were confined to amateurs. Women trainers never mind jockeys were unheard of. Times change. I wouldn't be surprised if the conditions GEORGE talks about cropped up in GB.
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