Slow pace or fast pace. Fast pace would suit the French horse Calandagan. 4 runs at Ascot won 3 2nd once. beaten twice at Epsom( Coronation Cup). what will O'Brian DO .? Minnie Hauk Lambourn decent horses. SO many different ways the race will be run all about the MASTER OF BALLYDOYLE. One option Lambourn could pave the way last 3 furlongs for MINNIE HAUK. IN my opinion i don't think Ascot will "suit" Benvenuto Cellini
Delashay on 22 Jul 26 15:12 It’s brave to rule out Kaplana with her form lines, never been out of the first 3 there. Baldys and Lads ducked it early were 13/2 & 6
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The big mover today.
uptheirons • July 22, 2026 3:20 PM BST 12.0 on here,dipstick
uptheirons • July 25, 2026 10:29 AM BST But,you never backed it,Delbert because you have an unfunded BF A/C
Kalpana @ 8/1 King George VI And Queen Elizabeth Stakes Won Each Way: 1/5 Odds, 3 Places
Mighta got lower odds but hey!
Delashay on 22 Jul 26 15:12It’s brave to rule out Kaplana with her form lines, never been out of the first 3 there. Baldys and Lads ducked it early were 13/2 & 6- - - -The big mover today.uptheirons • July 22, 2026 3:20 PM BST12.0 on here,dipstic
That was the best result for horseracing. Mr Balding is one of the best and most gentlemanly trainers in the sport. He's genuine and always consistent and forthcoming with his horses' race plans. It's synonymous Kalpana won for Juddmonte.
Dancing Brave and Enable were two of the most iconic winners of the race in the past.
That was the best result for horseracing. Mr Balding is one of the best and most gentlemanly trainers in the sport. He's genuine and always consistent and forthcoming with his horses' race plans. It's synonymous Kalpana won for Juddmonte. Dancing Bra
They’re my favourite silks impossible. Was a great race!
I don’t know why Graffard said after that there was less time between races this year, his work rider had said that the extra time was good for him this year.
Too many horses in this years race for Calandagan to make up those lengths.
Lambourn finished closer there than he had at Saint - Cloud where he had slowed things up.
By the way I can help myself, but when you mock people and laugh at them, call them, “dipstick…” amongst other things and make presumptions don’t be surprised if it bites you in rear!
I’d pointed out that they ducked her you didn’t take any notice and no one knows what you backed or fancied!
They’re my favourite silks impossible. Was a great race!I don’t know why Graffard said after that there was less time between races this year, his work rider had said that the extra time was good for him this year. Too many horses in this years
I didn't post about it but Kalpana was the first of the popular big 6 I dismissed despite recognising her as a G1 filly. I'm very surprised she's won that (and deservedly so...with no excuses for Calandagan) and I would've wanted 16/1+ before even considering her!
I've had my pants well & truly pulled down with Kalpana and got that well wrong
All I can suggest is that doppelganger was Enable instead
There's probably only ME on here who after-times with a loser
I didn't post about it but Kalpana was the first of the popular big 6 I dismissed despite recognising her as a G1 filly.I'm very surprised she's won that (and deservedly so...with no excuses for Calandagan) and I would've wanted 16/1+ before even con
Delashay - I saw that immediately...and that's my Exhibit 'A' for believing Calandagan hasn't performed to his best today and he's been beaten fair & square with no apparent excuses. He just hasn't fired for whatever reason
Delashay - I saw that immediately...and that's my Exhibit 'A' for believing Calandagan hasn't performed to his best today and he's been beaten fair & square with no apparent excuses.He just hasn't fired for whatever reason
EJ - I'm always ecstatic when they lose...and a stable like Balding cops it I must admit that it's staggered me...and nice to see someone else honest enough to say so.
EJ - I'm always ecstatic when they lose...and a stable like Balding cops itI must admit that it's staggered me...and nice to see someone else honest enough to say so.
I told you Herbie on Thursday that Newbury race was the key for Kalpana, mind you, you only have 45yrs experience in horse racing so you cant blame yourself for missing it, your still learning, imagine what you will be like when you get older, we certainly agree on O,Brien thats for sure, we both know what Cecil, Gosden, Harwood, Hills, Stoute would have done with a breeding operation behind them.
I told you Herbie on Thursday that Newbury race was the key for Kalpana, mind you, you only have 45yrs experience in horse racing so you cant blame yourself for missing it, your still learning, imagine what you will be like when you get older, we cer
By the way its equally possible that she may have improved and Calandagan might have run his race, its as possible as him not running to form, both valid points
By the way its equally possible that she may have improved and Calandagan might have run his race, its as possible as him not running to form, both valid points
The fact that Calandagan has ran how he has with zero excuses is very puzzling to me. I didn't even flinch in the closing stages and I confidently expected him to nail her.
She's most likely found a few lbs improvement and after all...she got close to him last year so it's possible that IS true form with no ifs or buts...though I'd like to see how it further pans out in the coming months as I'm white-hot on Calandagan.
The fact that Calandagan has ran how he has with zero excuses is very puzzling to me.I didn't even flinch in the closing stages and I confidently expected him to nail her.She's most likely found a few lbs improvement and after all...she got close to
I also agree with your observation on West Wind Blows as you said how often if ever does a seven year old improve 8-10 lbs, he did it against Calandagan and then backed it up against Kalpana
I also agree with your observation on West Wind Blows as you said how often if ever does a seven year old improve 8-10 lbs, he did it against Calandagan and then backed it up against Kalpana
I recall Herbie and I don’t see that West Wind Blows has, just that he isn’t as good, last year was a long season and the travel and all those Group 1’s takes it toll.
The trainer has been cautious, talking about him needing to show signs that he still wants it.
He does but maybe not as good as he was, I couldn’t see him beating Ombudsman again.
I recall Herbie and I don’t see that West Wind Blows has, just that he isn’t as good, last year was a long season and the travel and all those Group 1’s takes it toll. The trainer has been cautious, talking about him needing to show signs that
By the way that 12-1 for the Arc looks big initially to me as soft ground wont be an issue for her so just had a bet on that, the race looks weak to me
By the way that 12-1 for the Arc looks big initially to me as soft ground wont be an issue for her so just had a bet on that, the race looks weak to me
When a mare improves you just never know how far they can go and with the arc at this stage looking not that strong 12-1 after today is not bad value, the soft ground wont bother her and with due regard to Lambourn he was actually given a chance today and remember he had also beaten Bay City Roller in May this year and that romped home in the Coronation Cup. Having watched the race again the winner won fair and square and if anything the one to take from the race is Benvenuto Cellini who has run a stormer and gone under the radar. He is another with progression who could go well in the arc, that said the worry there would be soft ground.
When a mare improves you just never know how far they can go and with the arc at this stage looking not that strong 12-1 after today is not bad value, the soft ground wont bother her and with due regard to Lambourn he was actually given a chance toda
I’d mentioned Lambourn beating Bay City, but he was in receipt of tins of weight that day.
I don’t think that she has improved but Calandagan has regressed, he’d of beaten West Wind Blows easier, Sunly & Caulificar last year.
Pen it has to be something, maybe she doesn’t like the downhill section?
Either way earlier in the year Balding said that the Arc wasn’t an aim but the Filly & Mares at Ascot.
She beat Quisisana3 1/4L at Ascot she was beaten over 9 by Daryz, Kap 7L it’s not good enough and you’re taking a little chance that soft ground and a better draw are going to help her as well as the improvement that is being touted.
I’d mentioned Lambourn beating Bay City, but he was in receipt of tins of weight that day. I don’t think that she has improved but Calandagan has regressed, he’d of beaten West Wind Blows easier, Sunly & Caulificar last year. Pen it has to be s
Another thing Keane hasn’t, I don’t think won a race e in France, Bay City Roller relishes soft as much as her and has travelled and ran well at the track.
Another thing Keane hasn’t, I don’t think won a race e in France, Bay City Roller relishes soft as much as her and has travelled and ran well at the track.
Its all about opinions but one thing I have learned over all the years is not to take the form of a race literally as in the majority of cases it just does not work out, this coming from someone who used to be an absolute form student for many many years, your right about Bay City Roller, another vastly improved horse this year who loves soft ground and has no problem with Longchamp, for me betting nowadays is all about value and in my opinion she rates decent value after today's race at 12-1, I am very aware also that she may not run but its worth a punt sometimes, it will be interesting if she heads to one of the arc trials or goes straight to the arc, that is if they do intend going, which after today would seem logical to me. Finally Colin Keane does not worry me at all.
Its all about opinions but one thing I have learned over all the years is not to take the form of a race literally as in the majority of cases it just does not work out, this coming from someone who used to be an absolute form student for many many y
Fair enough MP and it’s all about if you think that the price is right and you’re willing to chance it. We can only use the form as guide as you say, agree.
With Bay City you might be right ABBA but some horses revel in the mud, he finds when others turn tail. Last time might have been his coming of age. I mentioned him playing devils advocate because for as many horses will improve for soft, there’ll be another. People have put up Estrange for the same reason.
Fair enough MP and it’s all about if you think that the price is right and you’re willing to chance it. We can only use the form as guide as you say, agree. With Bay City you might be right ABBA but some horses revel in the mud, he finds when ot
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I understand Calandagan was rated the best horse in this race however, I think it was more to do with his performance in Meydan (petrol currency) or that part of the world. Yesterday's race was not run to suit him - it stretched its stamina to the limit - and neither was it for Minnie. The designated pace was meant for Ben but Ben's a slow boat. He's just not as good as AOB has been telling the easily deceived bookies sponsored pundits.
There was plenty of money for Kalpana yesterday, but I thought she'd prefer softer going. Similarly, Minnie. However, I'm very pleased for Mr Balding and Juddmonte. Prince Khalid Abdullah, Sir Cecil and Mr Harwood were the true gentleman of British horseracing, and a formidable trio. The former owned some very exceptional horses eg Dancing Brave, Enable, Warning, Rousillon and most outstanding and prolific winner of all the unbelievable and unbeatable Frankel. Frankel was a freak!
I understand Calandagan was rated the best horse in this race however, I think it was more to do with his performance in Meydan (petrol currency) or that part of the world. Yesterday's race was not run to suit him - it stretched its stamina to the li
Interesting write up Impossible, I’d been ridiculed for suggesting that the stamina would be tested for Calandagan earlier on on here.
After a race I like to let things settle and see the take out in the cold light of day.
For me the race wasn’t as great as I’d hoped that it would be beforehand. The two Japanese were dismal, Goliath didn’t run up to his Hardwick showing, Minnie Hawk didn’t improve for the extra distance and is to me looking exposed now this year. Make no excuses for her.
She was beaten 4L by Ombudsman that’s a good guide, last year See the Fire was beaten that distance twice by him so maybe that’s as good as she is at 4? 3 strikes now at Group 1 this year.
Even Wurrtenburg should have been thereabouts as he was rated similar or the same as Lambourn.
With those four all underperforming I think that the run of Ben , “The big old boat” ( the original quote) which was mocked by pocket talkers at the time has been flattered somewhat. (He hung right again today something to consider if going left handed around a tight American track).
He looks to me Leger bound and this comment from AOB is interesting;
We know he gets a mile and a half well, but you couldn't be completely sure until he did it against the older horses. Even going through the line, he didn't look finished. We'll look at the Breeders' Cup with him."
The going is what might be holding his price up 12/1 10/1 and the fact that Christmas Day liked it. But Epsom wasn’t ever his course. (On the going yesterday Adele said he’s still bulking out physically and it may have been that at TWO that both Action and Hawk Mountain were more ahead of him physically.)
Interesting write up Impossible, I’d been ridiculed for suggesting that the stamina would be tested for Calandagan earlier on on here. After a race I like to let things settle and see the take out in the cold light of day. For me the race wasn’t
So the O'Brien pacemakers have made sure the best horse on the day has won, even though it wasn't his. If they weren't there Calandagan would probably have won with a slower pace. And the people who are glad the winner won and Calandagan lost got their wish because of those dammed pacemakers. Irony eh.
So the O'Brien pacemakers have made sure the best horse on the day has won, even though it wasn't his. If they weren't there Calandagan would probably have won with a slower pace. And the people who are glad the winner won and Calandagan lost got the
Delbert,the Fantasy Island,non betting, aftertiming loon who simply cannot help himself and proves again that his word is totally worthless I stated that I would not be having a bet in the race and I did not. Unlike Delbert I have no need to lie
Delbert,the Fantasy Island,non betting, aftertiming loon who simply cannot help himself and proves again that his word is totally worthlessI stated that I would not be having a bet in the race and I did not.Unlike Delbert I have no need to lie
Unfortunately you never wrote that you weren’t betting on this race but on another thread!
Not sure what you felt you contributed here?
It’s obvious that you done your conkers hence your rampage after which resorted to racism afterwards.
Unfortunately you never wrote that you weren’t betting on this race but on another thread! Not sure what you felt you contributed here? It’s obvious that you done your conkers hence your rampage after which resorted to racism afterwards.
Delashay on 22 Jul 26 15:12 It’s brave to rule out Kaplana with her form lines, never been out of the first 3 there. Baldys and Lads ducked it early were 13/2 & 6
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The big mover today.
uptheirons • July 22, 2026 3:20 PM BST 12.0 on here,dipstick
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BTW,pointing out that it was 12.0 on here was not dismissive of its chances but merely pointing out a fact
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it took the early morning market move for you back track and try cover yourself in case she did win!
Took TWO DAYS for an aftertime!
Delashay • July 25, 2026 10:24 AM BSTDelashay on 22 Jul 26 15:12It’s brave to rule out Kaplana with her form lines, never been out of the first 3 there. Baldys and Lads ducked it early were 13/2 & 6- - - -The big mover today.uptheirons • July 2
It’s obvious that you done your conkers hence your rampage after which resorted to racism afterwards.
Yet another poster with supposed clairvoyant powers I was never going to back in the race as I stated. You are a puerile, Autistic,lying,aftertiming,non betting loon and that is why you get the abuse and it has nothing to do with your colour
It’s obvious that you done your conkers hence your rampage after which resorted to racism afterwards.Yet another poster with supposed clairvoyant powersI was never going to back in the race as I stated.You are a puerile, Autistic,lying,aftertiming,
Delashay, the first 3 home proved that the race was up to standard, it did not prove that Calandagan has a stamina issue and the ratings with adjustments proved that BC is far from a boat. However as you claim you backed the winner can you tell us why she was a better bet than last year, surely you being the oracle know the answer, plenty do without reams of C & P?
Btw had irons grand @ 10 been laid he would have made a few grand of free money laying it back, do you not understand exchanges?
Delashay, the first 3 home proved that the race was up to standard, it did not prove that Calandagan has a stamina issue and the ratings with adjustments proved that BC is far from a boat. However as you claim you backed the winner can you tell us wh
It is not about trying to prove anybody being Billy Big Gonads,although that is your M/O. You could have backed at 12.0 as I pointed out at the time on here if you actually had a funded BF A/C. Instead you aftertimed a Fantasy Island bet after promising not do so. You have zero credibility after countless lies on here(the 27 YO Blonde& Trumps Body Guard) being just two absolute belters. Now,F/O and paint another masterpiece
It is not about trying to prove anybody being Billy Big Gonads,although that is your M/O.You could have backed at 12.0 as I pointed out at the time on here if you actually had a funded BF A/C.Instead you aftertimed a Fantasy Island bet after promisin
Of course Delbert doesn't understand how BF works as he has an unfunded A/C,Glen. The bet at 10.0 was to show the hapless loon how he could prove he actually had funds.
Of course Delbert doesn't understand how BF works as he has an unfunded A/C,Glen.The bet at 10.0 was to show the hapless loon how he could prove he actually had funds.
By the way if you all believe that she’s better than last year, fill your boots on her
The reason for backing her EW was stated above.
Delashay on 22 Jul 26 15:12 It’s brave to rule out Kaplana with her form lines, never been out of the first 3 there.
To think 12’s was available and you both missed out!
By the way if you all believe that she’s better than last year, fill your boots on her The reason for backing her EW was stated above. Delashay on 22 Jul 26 15:12It’s brave to rule out Kaplana with her form lines, never been out of the first 3 th
MJK • July 26, 2026 12:35 PM BST Im losing more and more interest in flat racing as each season passes but I really enjoyed the KG yesterday. A proper race.
It could have been better had the others shown up with their runs and true ability but that happens.
MJK • July 26, 2026 12:35 PM BSTIm losing more and more interest in flat racing as each season passes but I really enjoyed the KG yesterday. A proper race.It could have been better had the others shown up with their runs and true ability but that h
I missed out on nothing Delashay but I know now why she was a better bet than last year, not before the race btw. Seems like you still have no idea why that was the case?
I missed out on nothing Delashay but I know now why she was a better bet than last year, not before the race btw. Seems like you still have no idea why that was the case?
As you mentioned every runner with your endless C&P shyte you were bound to be able to point to the winner aftertime,as you invariably do. I saw no logical reason why Kalpana would turn the form around from last year and wanted to see the actual ability of your "Slow Boat" for future races. Delbert remains the biggest Bullshatter on BF
As you mentioned every runner with your endless C&P shyte you were bound to be able to point to the winner aftertime,as you invariably do.I saw no logical reason why Kalpana would turn the form around from last year and wanted to see the actual abili
CagliariG • July 21, 2026 1:29 PM BST Proof that if you are not cut and pasting you are clueless Delashay prattling on about 10f when the KG is over 12f. Minnie Hauk has won over 10f
Seems that you’re ok to insult? Make accusations?
Tell us all about that one race that Minnie Hauk won over 10F!
Please tell us all what you know oh wise one!
CagliariG • July 21, 2026 1:29 PM BSTProof that if you are not cut and pasting you are clueless Delashay prattling on about 10f when the KG is over 12f. Minnie Hauk has won over 10f Seems that you’re ok to insult? Make accusations? Tell us all ab
"I felt she was better this year," he said. "Last year it was a struggle to get weight off her and this year she's trained leaner and lighter and we've just been so happy with her all along. I don't know what the difference is this year but that was probably the telling change to last year."
Even the trainer doesn’t know exactly! So please tell us all.
But as we punters aren’t privy to body weights we’ll have to take his word for that!
I’ve written that we should know this before each race as they do in Hong Kong it’s the greatest fiddle in racing currently being employed.
Balding after the race, "I felt she was better this year," he said. "Last year it was a struggle to get weight off her and this year she's trained leaner and lighter and we've just been so happy with her all along. I don't know what the difference is
Delashay • July 26, 2026 12:11 PM BST Please show us all from where on this thread you posted that you weren’t going to have a bet!?
No sign of that being true. Delashay • July 26, 2026 12:11 PM BSTPlease show us all from where on this thread you posted that you weren’t going to have a bet!?
Delashay • March 28, 2026 6:01 PM GMT Great ride from Desuza on West Wind Blows, I thought the Godolphin pair were going to play their cards that way and try get first run on Calandagan. They never had it, wonder if they wished they’d run Rebels now?
Even if Barza didn’t raise the whip, a better horse beats Calandagan today, I’ll be against him from now on, (instant gut reaction) to seeing that.
Patience
But ahead of Caladagan backer since March!
Delashay • March 28, 2026 6:01 PM GMTGreat ride from Desuza on West Wind Blows, I thought the Godolphin pair were going to play their cards that way and try get first run on Calandagan. They never had it, wonder if they wished they’d run Rebels n
CagliariG • July 25, 2026 3:27 PM BST Can't see him winning stewarts but a place not out of the question depending on how messy the race becomes. More questions than answers for the whole field never mind how tactics may affect the result. Had a token ew on MB as more upside if getting the trip but BC getting 11lb and if Calandagan still as good really makes it more race to watch than get heavily involved punting imo. Good luck, btw your Big Gossey has had a great year since you tipped him.
Now take your wisdom and criticism and carry on talking arbitrary nonsense Mr Token!
From the Goliath thread of which there were two! CagliariG • July 25, 2026 3:27 PM BSTCan't see him winning stewarts but a place not out of the question depending on how messy the race becomes. More questions than answers for the whole field never
You’re a hypocrite to accuse someone of something that you’ve admitted doing on another thread.
That’s not only slightly devious but pretty much chicken.
Irons can C&P his day but not his quote from this thread where he ever did that there’d be no bet on the race by him!
It’s not the first time that he’s posted on a thread to claim to not betting on the race, why he’s here I’ll never know?!
You’re a hypocrite to accuse someone of something that you’ve admitted doing on another thread. That’s not only slightly devious but pretty much chicken. Irons can C&P his day but not his quote from this thread where he ever did that there’d
CagliariG 23 Jul 26 14:15 My compy horse for today Foyles is Jumeirah Storm at Donc, 11/4 last night and as short as 6/4 now, 7/4 with 365, probably too short for you now tbf? As for the KG, more questions than answers for the whole field although the Japanese horse has more upside than most imo?
CagliariG 26 Jul 26 12:51 So unlike you I stated more questions than answers but had a token ew. How does that insinuate being in the know?
He never gets boring does old Tuna boy
CagliariG 23 Jul 26 14:15 My compy horse for today Foyles is Jumeirah Storm at Donc, 11/4 last night and as short as 6/4 now, 7/4 with 365, probably too short for you now tbf? As for the KG, more questions than answers for the whole field although t
Delbert would argue that BLACK is white. My 12.55pm post shows that I did not have a bet of any description on the KG. No further time will be wasted on the tard
Delbert would argue that BLACK is white.My 12.55pm post shows that I did not have a bet of any description on the KG.No further time will be wasted on the tard
uptheirons • July 26, 2026 12:10 PM BST “It’s obvious that you done your conkers hence your rampage after which resorted to racism afterwards.”
Yet another poster with supposed clairvoyant powers I was never going to back in the race as I stated.
That was your statement this morning you were asked where on this thread you had stated that you never intended to have a bet in the race.
I.e. a typed out sentence.
You haven’t been able to show that!
So please keep to your word here, “ No further time will be wasted on the tard.”
Save your cheap petty insults and lack of bottle to discuss any race beforehand.
uptheirons • July 26, 2026 12:10 PM BST“It’s obvious that you done your conkers hence your rampage after which resorted to racism afterwards.”Yet another poster with supposed clairvoyant powersI was never going to back in the race as I stated
TCat would York be his track would be my first thought. Deffo seems like a step up is in order.
Coys he hasn’t the sense of decency to remove his shades so not surprised!
Phil Cunningham when interviewed last week did.
TCat would York be his track would be my first thought. Deffo seems like a step up is in order. Coys he hasn’t the sense of decency to remove his shades so not surprised!Phil Cunningham when interviewed last week did.
Can I just say as someone who posts infrequently this name calling stuff just gets us nowhere and stops people who might want to post about horse racing from doing so as nobody wants to be slagged off continually, maybe just stick to horse racing and cut out all the childish nonsense that's being posted, by the way no names mentioned, its just ridiculous on a horse racing forum to be doing this.
Can I just say as someone who posts infrequently this name calling stuff just gets us nowhere and stops people who might want to post about horse racing from doing so as nobody wants to be slagged off continually, maybe just stick to horse racing and