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timbuctooth
14 Jul 26 17:56
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In a simple 'yes or no' market, I have 'yes' at £14 green and 'no' at £5950 green. I want to back the £5950 on 'yes', but I'm receiving the 'You do not have sufficient available funds to place these bets or you have exceeded your exposure limit.'; why is this, as I shouldn't need any funds if I'm staying all-green, nor would I be exceeding my exposure limit?

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By:
paulybad
When: 14 Jul 26 17:59
Starmer divorce market, i would lay it off too.
By:
uptheirons
When: 14 Jul 26 17:59
Put the Market and your position up if not bullshatting
By:
timbuctooth
When: 14 Jul 26 18:08
'Andy Burnham to be elected unopposed'

No
990
£5.00
£4,945.00
Ref: 434964515088 Matched: 15:15 14-Jul-26
Yes
1.01
£164.00
£1.64
Ref: 434963847595 Matched: 12:04 14-Jul-26
Yes
1.01
£999.77
£10.00
Ref: 434930627918 Matched: 09:22 14-Jul-26
No
930
£2.00
£1,858.00
Ref: 434910954634 Matched: 20:08 13-Jul-26
Yes
1.05
£288.16
£14.41
Ref: 433471521493 Matched: 06:33 29-Jun-26
Yes
1.05
£37.00
£1.85
Ref: 433471521493 Matched: 05:53 29-Jun-26
Yes
1.05
£1.00
£0.05
Ref: 433471521493 Matched: 01:01 29-Jun-26
No
10.5
£2.00
£19.00
Ref: 433612035916 Matched: 22:53 28-Jun-26
Yes
1.05
£28.10
£1.41
Ref: 433471521493 Matched: 19:12 28-Jun-26
No
13.5
£4.00
£50.00
Ref: 433543775602 Matched: 12:16 28-Jun-26
No
12
£1.00
£11.00
Ref: 433511501596 Matched: 21:26 27-Jun-26
Yes
1.05
£2.00
£0.10
Ref: 433471521493 Matched: 18:55 27-Jun-26
Yes
1.05
£43.74
£2.19
Ref: 433471521493 Matched: 17:14 27-Jun-26
No
12
£4.00
£44.00
Ref: 433419793836 Matched: 09:14 27-Jun-26
No
12
£4.00
£44.00
Ref: 433419793836 Matched: 09:14 27-Jun-26
No
12
£4.00
£44.00
Ref: 433419793836 Matched: 09:13 27-Jun-26
No
12
£4.00
£44.00
Ref: 433419793836 Matched: 09:12 27-Jun-26
No
12
£4.00
£44.00
Ref: 433419793836 Matched: 07:41 27-Jun-26
Yes
1.07
£100.00
£7.00
Ref: 433346581481 Matched: 15:59 26-Jun-26
No
9.6
£1.00
£8.60
Ref: 433346546362 Matched: 13:55 26-Jun-26
No
9
£5.00
£40.00
Ref: 433277710799 Matched: 10:01 26-Jun-26
No
9
£0.01
£0.08
Ref: 433277710799 Matched: 20:48 25-Jun-26
No
7.8
£6.02
£40.94
Ref: 433192738353 Matched: 22:52 24-Jun-26
Yes
1.08
£47.81
£3.82
Ref: 433142821684 Matched: 08:20 24-Jun-26
Yes
1.08
£20.00
£1.60
Ref: 433142821684 Matched: 08:11 24-Jun-26
Yes
1.08
£132.19
£10.58
Ref: 433142821684 Matched: 08:11 24-Jun-26
Yes
1.12
£35.00
£4.20
Ref: 433088769648 Matched: 11:26 23-Jun-26
No
6
£5.00
£25.00
Ref: 433088754076 Matched: 23:41 22-Jun-26
No
8
£20.00
£140.00
Ref: 433057141790 Matched: 17:38 22-Jun-26
No
5.6
£15.00
£69.00
Ref: 433044334730 Matched: 13:52 22-Jun-26
Yes
1.11
£183.83
£20.22
Ref: 433041005649 Matched: 13:15 22-Jun-26
Yes
1.11
£16.17
£1.78
Ref: 433041005649 Matched: 13:09 22-Jun-26
By:
uptheirons
When: 14 Jul 26 18:31
What do want to do in that Market?
By:
uptheirons
When: 14 Jul 26 18:34
There is not a copper coin available on "yes" with £7011 wanting on at 1.01
By:
uptheirons
When: 14 Jul 26 18:40
IHTH
By:
timbuctooth
When: 14 Jul 26 18:49
Yes, £1500 of that 7k is mine, as that's what I have as 'available to bet', but I want to add the £5950 to it, which would not leave any liability or reds, nor would it exceed exposure limits, so why am I receiving the 'You do not have sufficient available funds to place these bets or you have exceeded your exposure limit.' message?
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 14 Jul 26 18:56
check what your exposure limit is, and if you have any bets on any other markets. world cup maybe ?
By:
formoftheace
When: 14 Jul 26 19:02
Iron will lead you up the garden path imo…..
By:
uptheirons
When: 14 Jul 26 19:31
I have pointed out the facts to the O/P,Aceform.
You.on the other hand,post utter shyte,you clueless,losing Two Bobber.
Feel free to point out any errorsLaugh
By:
penzance
When: 14 Jul 26 19:31
Are you trying to get £1500 + £5950 (£7450)?
By:
timbuctooth
When: 14 Jul 26 19:42
No, not in total, just to add £4450 (of the £5950 that I have green on 'no'), to the £1500 I've got waiting already; no reds, no exceeding limits
By:
penzance
When: 14 Jul 26 19:58
Try another lower amount,£4400,see if that goes in the queue.
By:
uptheirons
When: 14 Jul 26 20:02
The only chance of you getting on the 1.01 is if you don't need to,O/P
By:
timbuctooth
When: 14 Jul 26 20:10
Penzance, thanks for trying to help; I've tried lower amounts, but am not being allowed anything beyond my 'available to bet' figure, (which the £1500 already waiting has swallowed up), with no recognition of, or allowance for, any of the £5950 green. I would assume that, in a two-runner market, I could stake the £5950 before a penny of my 'available to bet' was affected
By:
Hugo-Hackenbush
When: 14 Jul 26 21:02
even if you managed it whats the odds of someone laying it all?
By:
Hugo-Hackenbush
When: 14 Jul 26 21:05
cos u have £5 990 it wins £4945..that doesnt mean you can then bet that amount at 1.01 as u dont have £4945 to bet with.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 14 Jul 26 21:12
I shouldn't need £4945 available to bet, because I have £5950 green on the only other runner, so I should be able to back the whole £5950 without it affecting my balance at all. The £1500 I have waiting has come from 'available to bet', which shouldn't be happening.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 14 Jul 26 21:14
Don't know if any of it will be matched, but I have had £1200 matched today
By:
Hugo-Hackenbush
When: 14 Jul 26 21:25
if you cancel all pending bets how much is your balance?
By:
Cider
When: 14 Jul 26 21:34
sounds daft with no other possible outcome, but probably it's an incomplete market template.
By:
Cider
When: 14 Jul 26 21:39
most politics markets are incomplete. eg if someone backed Fatface in the by election, any other runner added would automatically be red. you can test this by laying No instead (it won't be matched obviously, but I'd expect it to be stacked.
By:
timbuctooth
When: 14 Jul 26 22:10
Hugo; I have £1500 waiting to back 'yes' which, if cancelled brings my balance from zero to £1500

Cider; it's a yes/no market, no possibility of other runners, so gotta assume the market's 'complete'
By:
elisjohn
When: 14 Jul 26 22:24
i hads the same with ante post horse racing few months backi was green on all tinners but if i wanted to trade i wasnt able etc , its terrible, but it will sort itself out at the conclusion
By:
Hugo-Hackenbush
When: 14 Jul 26 23:36
timbuctooth 14 Jul 26 22:10 
Hugo; I have £1500 waiting to back 'yes' which, if cancelled brings my balance from zero to £1500

sew how do ewe expect to bet another $4450?
By:
timbuctooth
When: 15 Jul 26 00:11
Because the only other runner is currently £5950 green! Meaning I should be able to bring that green to zero, transfering all my green to the other, without it affecting my balance at all. Then, if I wanted to, I should also be able to back with the £1500 available, rather than the current situation, which is being able to use the £1500 and not being able to use the £5950. 21 years on here, I've never before seen a two-runner market behave like this
By:
Cider
When: 15 Jul 26 05:47
I know tim, but humans make mistakes.

I'm right, I think. If you eg put up 100 at 5 on yes, it doesn't also appear on the No side as an offer to back at 1.25 (as it should).

Test that on another politics market eg Andy Crapp to be pm at the next general, an unmatched offer will show up on both sides (at obviously the relative inverse price).
By:
elisjohn
When: 15 Jul 26 08:14
again, ive had loads of these on outright markets etc, its a nightmare,   just 1 thing you could is check your current exposure , that helps me to make some sense occassionly .  ill put up a thread i had on few weeks back
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