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Delashay
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So it’s that time of year when we can look at form and discuss the merits of those currently at the top of the market.

Let’s play the game fair but still enjoy the summer season left, whilst looking ahead….
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Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 8:33 AM BST
Hurricane Lane won his GPDP by 6L

Sosie by 2L

Flintshire 1.5L

Onesto Nk but 2.5L back to the 3rd

(This years was a very tight finish) with other runners potentially missing.
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 8:35 AM BST
That’s me (as said all posted out) , not sure if ATR will be shoeing the draw results later? They normally show the draw on the morning.

Hopefully some have enjoyed the journey, good luck!
Report 1st time poster • October 1, 2026 8:43 AM BST
remember when thi forum had a 1000 posts adviing people how to make the besr of ARC weekend in paris,wonder how many till go in comparison to 20yr ago, been half a dozen time and the 3 times i went with horse racing abroad were 3 of the best festival away days ive had
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 8:49 AM BST
As you can tell, I love it, my fav weekend! Happy
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 9:40 AM BST
All 16 declared and jocked except the usual suspect.
Report FOYLESWAR • October 1, 2026 10:36 AM BST
any news of the draw yet?
Report isleham • October 1, 2026 10:55 AM BST
This evening...though waiting for any "leaks"
Report FOYLESWAR • October 1, 2026 11:05 AM BST
thanks isleham ,thought it was this morning
Report formoftheace • October 1, 2026 11:18 AM BST
Drawing at 11.00….secret out tonight around 20.00 I think
Report impossible123 • October 1, 2026 12:48 PM BST
Why is betting suspended here? I understand the draw and confirmation after 9.30pm tonight but why is betting suspended here? A new market could be formed now prior to the draw, etc.

Wake up Betfair!
Report CagliariG • October 1, 2026 1:00 PM BST
Article in todays RP with bookies predicting Daryz could be as short as 5/4 if getting a favourable draw , seemed obvious tbf. The same would apply to any runner in the bottom half i.e shortening and the opposite for those with carpark draws.

Do you take a chance for a price pre-draw or have a bigger stake at shorter odds post draw assuming you are happy with the ground for your selection?

In the case of Daryz the article predicts he could start around 5/2-11/4 if getting a high draw , that imo would still be value given his ability so backers what will you do in regards to your current fancies?
Report penzance • October 1, 2026 1:05 PM BST
This secret draw, what a load of ole cobblers.
Laugh
Report impossible123 • October 1, 2026 1:10 PM BST
A big leakage after draw and prior to announcement? Watch the markets. Money talks!
Report FOYLESWAR • October 1, 2026 1:11 PM BST
will the betting on here be suspended till after the draw is made ?
Report impossible123 • October 1, 2026 1:20 PM BST
Who knows? The betfair clowns are a law unto themselves.
Report CagliariG • October 1, 2026 1:21 PM BST
Not sure about when a new market might open Foyles, it is the AP market suspended ,  but the books have said they will keep the market live, little movement so far.
Report elisjohn • October 1, 2026 3:43 PM BST
absolutely pathetic, biggest race in the world and we cant bet on it on the echange
Report CagliariG • October 1, 2026 3:48 PM BST
Struggling to see beyond Daryz before the draw so had a couple of small ew on Saddadd 40/1 and Meisho Tabura 33/1 with the thought of a place and shortening if getting decent draws. Tbh even after the draw Daryz will be the likeliest winner wherever drawn so might not even bother with another punt post draw.
Report uptheirons • October 1, 2026 4:02 PM BST
Who else apart from the Snail Eaters make the Draw and find the need to keep it a supposed secret?
Report formoftheace • October 1, 2026 4:11 PM BST
CagliariG 01 Oct 26 15:48 
Struggling to see beyond Daryz before the draw so had a couple of small ew on Saddadd 40/1 and Meisho Tabura 33/1 with the thought of a place and shortening if getting decent draws. Tbh even after the draw Daryz will be the likeliest winner wherever drawn so might not even bother with another punt post draw.

Sorry Cag I couldn’t have them in a million tbh..
Report formoftheace • October 1, 2026 4:12 PM BST
Fav too short other two fodder,a day in hospitality for owners
Report CagliariG • October 1, 2026 4:14 PM BST
Excellent news Quixall!!
Report formoftheace • October 1, 2026 4:15 PM BST
You only have to ask…
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 4:34 PM BST
Of the 8 horses that Daryz beat pre Ascot has won since, Aventure and she was wiped out in the DP Saint Cloud.
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 4:37 PM BST
One was retired since Sosie, so you could say 7, if he’s invincible why are they running two?

In a vid Graffard said after Ascot we decided to go for the Secind Arc, I doubt that he’d be here if he’d won the POW.

I’d posted quotes where they were up in the air with plans after Ascot and Sid that they had to decide.

He’s facing a different calibre here than he did in the Ganay and D’ispahan.
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 4:46 PM BST
These lot have previous with putting Barza on the so called first string in the last two Jockey Clubs!

He was on Ridari in last years race when a position behind the Lecouvre ridden Azimpour.

This year Barza was on the little Bro Daryzan who was again behind Doloman (since sold to Australia) again ridden by LeCovre.
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 4:49 PM BST
Will he find off the bridle? In a truly run race against better opposition than Uthred or Arrow Eagle?

Or was Ascot as good as he was? The form matches up with Minie Hauk after all.

These are things that the press don’t ask.
Report FOYLESWAR • October 1, 2026 5:29 PM BST
365 nrnb atm ...obviously we dont know the draw but ive had a few quid  with them now and maybe the rest when the draw is known ,daryz i s a worthy fav and graff says he is possibly the best he has trained he may win but at the prices not for me whatever  draw he gets and im not sure he is any better than he was last year plenty short enough imo. the 3yos not a lot between em it looks more open than the betting suggests imo, already on varandir and bright light ante post plus a couple of nonners sh,appens ,one who may have been underestimated   at a price is friendly  soul a 5yo who is lightly raced for one of that age is progressing an opera winner and won the vermille on first crack at 12f a prominent racer who may be hard to peg back a  6 wins 2 place from 10 starts 2 time group 1 course winner kept on tenaciously in the vermille ,gosdens have a decent record in this and know what it takes 25/1 firms hoping for bigger on here and a decent draw but being a prominent racer /front runner could have the speed to get in front early and will avoid any trouble in running
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 5:32 PM BST
He described Daryz as a 10f horse, Varindir however didn’t run in the PDJC ran over 12f on his second start. Daryz looked like a 12f horse getting whacked over the wrong trip at Ascot.
His class allowed him to win over shorter before Ascot.

Varindir was entered in the Chaudeny

Which I’m not sure if anyone has noticed?,   has 3 form lines that are in the Arc running the next day.


Victoire Magique 11/2 3rd fav ws beat 9 1/2L by Rumoriste/Bright Light

Jabracadabra  10/1 was beat 1 L 1/4 by Varandir

The Fav (was odds on) Pierre Bonnard beat by Arc second Fav Maltese Cross 2L in receipt of 5lb

Happy
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 5:33 PM BST
Fair play Foyles
Report paulo47 • October 1, 2026 5:34 PM BST
Same 3 as Foyles ...
Report uptheirons • October 1, 2026 5:49 PM BST
Delbert remains well on target to exceed 500 posts hereLaugh
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 5:51 PM BST
The thread is looking healthy
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 5:51 PM BST
Once the draw is known I can then come back to life Laugh
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 5:54 PM BST
Not that I GAF! I’m on a 100/1 + who will hate the quick ground Crazy
Report uptheirons • October 1, 2026 5:57 PM BST
The only surprise is that you were considered safe to be releasedLaugh
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK • October 1, 2026 6:10 PM BST
Madness how this can happen in 2026
If want big gala night than do draw
At gala event doing hours befor not letting cat out bag
Open for manipulation red herring all sorts

Can’t bet surly now till draw up
Unless you have wind of it
Report impossible123 • October 1, 2026 7:26 PM BST
Run the race tonight and do the draw at the track. Then punters can bet on it.
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 7:37 PM BST
I had my post removed about leaving hospital before the draw Laugh
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 7:37 PM BST
What world are we in?
Report impossible123 • October 1, 2026 7:44 PM BST
Who's staying up for this draw '****-up'?
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 7:44 PM BST
You’re Simon Clare so I’m sure you are
Report impossible123 • October 1, 2026 7:45 PM BST
**** = 'c*ck-up.
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 7:46 PM BST
If maletese Lief wins daArC den it’s ova
Report CagliariG • October 1, 2026 7:46 PM BST
Draw is on live now!!
Report brandyontherocks • October 1, 2026 7:46 PM BST
Diamond Necklace in the car park box
Report CagliariG • October 1, 2026 7:48 PM BST
Daryz in 5!!
Report impossible123 • October 1, 2026 7:48 PM BST
If they want a big gala night run the race on 1st Jan.
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 7:51 PM BST
4m ago
19:45, 1 October 2026
In stall 16 is. . . Diamond Necklace!

Remember the PDJC
Report wondersobright • October 1, 2026 7:52 PM BST
daryz single figure draw...incroyable Grin
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 7:54 PM BST
With only 4 appearances in 50 years and a victory, the number 24 on the rope necessarily has a rather flattering success stat of 25%.
If we stick to the most representative numbers, we can separate three positions in the stalls that are significantly more advantageous than the others.

Out of 49 attempts, the horse starting from stall no. 2 won 7 times (14.3%)
Out of 49 attempts as well, the horse starting from stall no. 6 won 6 times (12.2%)
Out of 48 attempts, the horse starting from stall no. 3 won 6 times (10.4%)

See you tomorrow, to find out which stalls it is not good to leave in order to hope to win. Two of them are rather unexpected...
Report brandyontherocks • October 1, 2026 7:57 PM BST
Four antepost bets and three have made it to the race.

Diamond Necklace wins me a bit.
Varandir, several
Kalpana, lots.

Good luck all.
Report impossible123 • October 1, 2026 7:58 PM BST
It's on youtube apparently.
Report CagliariG • October 1, 2026 8:00 PM BST
The rank outsiders will be quicker than you Impossible. NAP
Report impossible123 • October 1, 2026 8:03 PM BST
Maltese in stall 11.
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 8:04 PM BST
“Diamond Necklace wins me a bit.
Varandir, several
Kalpana, lots.”

I’m working class and rich and find this vulgar
Report impossible123 • October 1, 2026 8:05 PM BST
The draws are known yet the betting here is still suspended. Is Betfair shut?
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 8:06 PM BST
They never change the odds much after a draw anyway
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 8:07 PM BST
Hold the DN bet impossible she’s not out of it from there
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 8:08 PM BST
Treve 22
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 8:08 PM BST
Cart horses vs speedy the books have a lot in the basket
Report impossible123 • October 1, 2026 8:09 PM BST
DN is a bonus. She's in the race unless her trainer does a Mr Mullins and withdraws her post draw.
Report Delashay • October 1, 2026 8:09 PM BST
The fillies are better
Report impossible123 • October 1, 2026 8:14 PM BST
The slow boat Ben is into 12/1 after drawing stall 1. Bookies' ruse.
Report Herbie-53 • October 1, 2026 8:55 PM BST
What price a 're-routing' for Diamond Necklace? Lots of questions to answer in the big one
but after that horrible draw, it'd be a wise move to take on Aventure instead...as quite
surprisingly, she isn't having a third bash at The Arc and staying in the far easier Opera.
Report impossible123 • October 1, 2026 8:59 PM BST
A reroute may not be a wise option. Aventure is more formidable opponent at 10f. Strangely enough I think Moore would choose Diamond Necklace. The slow boat Ben is too ineffective even with stall 1. As for Minnie Hauk she's regressed.
Report impossible123 • October 1, 2026 9:03 PM BST
As usual AOB / Coolmore are holding up the pilot of their charges.
Report brandyontherocks • October 1, 2026 9:19 PM BST
Benvenuto Cellini - Ryan Moore
Diamond Necklace - Christophe Soumillon
Minnie Hauk - William Buick
Report impossible123 • October 1, 2026 9:37 PM BST
Ben - Moore
Diamond - Soumillon
Minnie - Buick
Report GLASGOWCALLING • October 1, 2026 10:21 PM BST
• Benvenuto Cellini (1)
• Chestnut Rocket (2)
• Thundering On (3)
• Varandir (4)
• Daryz (5)
• Kalpana (6)
• Friendly Soul (7)
• Bright Light (8)
• Saddadd (9)
• Minnie Hauk (10)
• Maltese Cross (11)
• Admire Terra (12)
• Meisho Tabaru (13)
• Arrow Eagle (14)
• Bay City Roller (15)
• Diamond Necklace (16)
Report GLASGOWCALLING • October 1, 2026 10:37 PM BST
If Naanas Shadow wins the Abbaye it will be almost as big as winning the Arc. Good luck to her .
Report Delashay • October 2, 2026 8:55 AM BST
Draw has been kind to all on the whole, P ain’t taking any chances on Saddad only go 20’s

And I’m not surprised has 50% win (5) 40% place (4) from 10 starts.

Meisho Tabaru won’t be too phased by 13 he was in 16 here,

Takarazuka Kinen (Grade 1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elrYtS7iK6g pink and blue so expect him to break quick.

Chestnut Rocket likes to go forwards.

Never saw Buick getting a ride, Minnie to go forth like she did in the King George to try and get Daryz off the bridle?

Thanks to everyone who got involved, hopefully a few more will put their picks up.

GL!
Report Delashay • October 2, 2026 8:59 AM BST
impossible123 • October 1, 2026 7:45 PM BST
**** = 'c*ck-up.

Laugh
Report the dealer • October 2, 2026 9:11 AM BST

Oct 1, 2026 -- 10:37PM, GLASGOWCALLING wrote:


If Naanas Shadow wins the Abbaye it will be almost as big as winning the Arc. Good luck to her .


Was with Katie at Musselburgh on Wednesday for a good bit. Although it's great for the yard, the borders and Scottish racing, she admitted to be struggling with all the attention, endless interviews, the horses getting there safely etc
The horse won a class 5 at Catterick,off 72 to start her season off, it's incredible the improvement the yard have got out her, regardless of Sundays result.

Just praying on a low draw for both, Luna could also run a massive race.

Hopefully she can soak all the weekend in, I can't imagine what it will be like if she actually wins it. Oisin was desperate to ride her.

Report Delashay • October 2, 2026 9:17 AM BST
Good luck to her, Burke has Supp’d Miss Yerchance
Report FOYLESWAR • October 2, 2026 9:53 AM BST
still no betting on here for the arc / or am i not looking in the right place?
Report Delashay • October 2, 2026 9:56 AM BST
Horse Racing ScheduleTodayTomorrowSunday


There are no markets to be displayed

Non here, shabby ain’t it!
Report FOYLESWAR • October 2, 2026 9:57 AM BST
its a grade a shyte show
Report Delashay • October 2, 2026 9:59 AM BST
For sure it it!

Nannas got stall  14

Ajaan 2

Monteille 6

Mission Central 5

Missyerchance 6
Report Delashay • October 2, 2026 10:00 AM BST
Pontoss 1
Report penzance • October 2, 2026 10:14 AM BST
Have the decs for Sunday's other races been made yet?
If they aint the Mkt might go up when they are finished.
Don't see why the Arc can't be up though, now rnrs & riders are known.
Report Delashay • October 2, 2026 10:19 AM BST
Yeah draws all done, smallest field for the Forret I can remember (8) True Love in 1
Report Delashay • October 2, 2026 10:22 AM BST
Aventure (7) of 9

Precise 5

Pink P 8

6 & 2 the Jonson pair, TFSC & JJ
Report Delashay • October 2, 2026 10:23 AM BST
Gosden hs Soumi Miss Scott 3
Report GLASGOWCALLING • October 2, 2026 10:44 AM BST
Have the decs for Sunday's other races been made yet?

  Oddschecker is the place to go. Sundays runners and betting.

  BF take down all Ante post markets 4 days before the race ( I think ), as della says just click on Sunday in the racing schedule.
Report GLASGOWCALLING • October 2, 2026 10:46 AM BST
Laugh Well it would be straightforward if BF were displaying Sundays market.!
Report Delashay • October 2, 2026 10:50 AM BST
Are they waiting for today’s racing to be over before loading? Crazy

They haven’t even got any British markets, no one post any photos! They must have one person acting as moderator and this is slowing down the market loading (having to approve these!) Laugh
Report Delashay • October 2, 2026 10:52 AM BST
SportsBook has


San Isidro

Maronas

Madrid

Mauritius Laugh

I like my international racing but not up on form for this lot Laugh
Report penzance • October 2, 2026 10:56 AM BST
Our races Sunday, Uttoxeter & Kelso won't be up as the decs are still coming in.
Report GLASGOWCALLING • October 2, 2026 11:00 AM BST
OH, I thought you wanted Sundays French racing Penzance.
Report GLASGOWCALLING • October 2, 2026 11:03 AM BST
Here you go .. Sundays French racing.

   https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/international
Report isleham • October 2, 2026 11:12 AM BST
Perhaps BF aren't going to have a market at all for the Arc..nothing surprises with them anymore especially has the Final Dec's have been out for 24 hours and the draw for 15 hours. Oddschecker had final odds yesterday
Report the dealer • October 2, 2026 11:37 AM BST
14 and 12 for Katie's in the sprint, honking draws.
Report GLASGOWCALLING • October 2, 2026 11:40 AM BST
Statistically Proven: Historically, horses drawn in stall 5 or lower have a massive advantage in finding the frame. Data looking at the race over the years shows that the lowest five stalls beat an average of roughly 60% of their total package of rivals. Sad
Report Delashay • October 2, 2026 11:44 AM BST
Markets up
Report Delashay • October 2, 2026 11:48 AM BST
But if you have a 200/1 shot in 2 doesn’t that push one out further say to 6?

Chestnut likes to go forwards so may come back into those in behind, if Friendly Soul goes forwards alongside Meisho   with Kalpana in behind the others should get a lovely toe in with no excuses.

Whether some can lay up on the faster ground and finish off will be key.
Report penzance • October 2, 2026 11:52 AM BST
2023 Highfield Princess Won from (14) when the ground's decribed as G/Sft.3RD (15) & 5th (19).
2018 Mabbs Cross Won from (13), ground Good.
Should be half decent ground Sunday so a high draw might be under estimated.
Report penzance • October 2, 2026 11:56 AM BST
2016 Marsha also Won (12), ground as Good.2ND (15) & 4TH (17).
Report penzance • October 2, 2026 12:01 PM BST
Forget Marsha, that's B0ll0x,  she Won when @ Chantilly!
Report the dealer • October 2, 2026 12:03 PM BST
Cheers P, fingers crossed it's not too much of a hindrance.
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