Arc De Triomphe ā€˜26

Unfortunately looks like Beyhrana has had a set back sheā€™s out to 40 and been removed by the high street firms.

Poodles even pushed her to 50/1 tonight, they must have a side line at the stable.

The day before the Diane they pushed out the retired Zayida who was on my treble wirh two winners Bay City & Christmas Day.
Lucky I was able to cash that out before the news broke.

Itā€™s sad for the race if this is correct which it looks likely as weā€™d maybe have had two unbeaten 3 year old fillies facing eachother in the great race. 

*an inside

Does this cretins aftertimes never end

I was sharing news that hasnā€™t been released as of yet and making a point for anyone who EVER backs a AGA horse to watch a certain firms prices very closely, yet youā€™re up posting sorry trolling at 10:58 pm, so does your childish nonsense , ā€œnever end?ā€

Zayida who has been retired to the stud farm IS still quoted by all firms, dirty basteros.

Same as here for not quoting all runners actually entered!

well done delashay for letting us know some might have been lured in by the price ,had a few quid on it myself but not that much so little harm done .

Welcome Foyles itā€™s not the money lost on her but more the disappointment of what might have been. She was progressing well and I thought that weā€™d not seen even nearly the best of her.
I just hope that itā€™s not a fatal situation.

coulda been anything... never mind, it happens !

Beware Foyles, Delashay states he cashed out before news broke as if he was privvy to info but in reality was again slipping in another aftertime despite the horse never being mentioned in a bet previously with his claimed double which of course was also post event.

Delbert is a born aftertimer and bullshatter

You can just imagine that tard being given any "inside"

✦ AI Overview

The fact that he needs to put a at the end of every sentence simply confirms that he lacks self-confidence and has low self-esteem.  You name it, he exhibits it.

Out of interest we passed copies of some of his recent posts to a ex-gynaecologist friend of ours who is currently a psychiartrist in the public sector.

After reviewing the posts of said Forumite he came to the conclusion that he's definitely one.  'One' as in One with a capital C .

The price drifts for Behrayna is concerning. I hope the filly is ok and has not suffered a career ending setback.

"We"?
Cartoon Boy

It Impossible but even more so that that bookie pushed her to 50/1 last night before removing her.

I hope mainly hope for her well being,  as  Iā€™ve said, I thought that she was special, crying out for a strong truly ran race.

*is

Iā€™d been taken by her and not many horses have done that with the potential to improve this year, thereā€™s maybe one other but I donā€™t know where heā€™s going yet.

Constituion Hill did after Chester but Iā€™ve been underwhelmed by his last two runs. Even going into the Eclipse AOB was building him up saying today I hope that youā€™ll see what weā€™ve seen at home.
He only beat a Boy Named Susie 1 length extra.

Did Nicky Henderson have an opinion?

That will go over the tards head,glen

"Constitution Hill" is still in his shed. He's not set foot in a horseracing arena in spite of his voice box alluded to otherwise.

A Boy Named Susie? A perennial over-ran? I think AOB and Coolmore are scraping the barrel to think Con River is a superstar. Their opinions about City Of Troy, Auguste Rodin, The Lion In Winter, Luxembourg, High Definition, Mogul, etc, were so off the mark even that gypsy resident at the Epsom Derby would have done better.

Fair point!

Ooooppps another mistype for people to croon over!

*River

Heā€™s made that much of an impression I keep confusing him!

Prix Niel entries

1    SUPERIOR CHOICE
2    DARYZAN
3    VARANDIR
4    ALAM
5    Baroud
6    JAMES J BRADDOCK
7    BENVENUTO CELLINI
8    HAWK MOUNTAIN
9    ENCELADUS
10    SPACE WALTZ
11    Jabracadabra
12    ENGLISHMAN
13    PEARLED MAJESTY
14    CHIEFLAND
15    DEFINING
16    Action
17    CHRISTMAS DAY
18    Montreal
19    PIERRE BONNARD
20    LOS MARINOS
21    Italy
22    DARDANOS
23    CONSTITUTION RIVER
24    Archers Bay
25    PROOF
26    RUMORISTE
27    Zaraki

Prix Foy Entries

1    DARYZ
2    SADDADD
3    PRIDE OF ARRAS
4    HERBAL
5    ILLINOIS
6    UTHRED
7    LEFFARD
8    CUALIFICAR
9    DANGER BAY
10    LAMBOURN
11    PARACHUTISTE
12    GOLIATH
13    ARROW EAGL
14    GLOBAL HEALTH
15    BAY CITY ROLLER
16    WIMBLEDON HAWKEYE
17    BEST SECRET
18    Oracle
19    SOSIE
20    MINNIE HAUK
21    QUEST FOR MAGIC

uptheirons 06 Aug 26 14:52 
That will go over the tards head,glen

Letting the guard down iron calling him Glenā€¦..Iā€™m closing in on the former name you usedā€¦ā€¦

Prix Vermille

1    Eleganz
2    BESET
3    MOODY
4    WEMIGHTAKEDLONGWAY
5    TATTYCORAM
6    ESTRANGE
7    MINNIE HAUK
8    TIFFANY
9    NYRA
10    KALPANA
11    SUNLY
12    DANIELLE
13    Euboa
14    MONEY TIME
15    SURVIE
16    RABBIT'S FOOT
17    PINK PANTHERA
18    BEHRAYNA
19    CALASITA
20    REBEL MOON
21    BOTAGOZ
22    CONCORDE AGREEMENT
23    BEAUTIFY
24    Moments Of Joy
25    Habibi
26    LEGACY LINK
27    DISPATCHES
28    GILDED PRIZE
29    COMPOSING
30    THUNDERING ON
31    AMELIA EARHART
32    SPARAN NUA
33    INIS MOR
34    LAPOTHEOSE
35    PROXIMA DU CENTAUR
36    PRECISE
37    CAMEO
38    DIAMOND NECKLACE
39    A La Prochaine
40    EARTH SHOT
41    JOHANNA WALSH
42    SUGAR ISLAND
43    LILT

Just how thick are you,Aceform?
Closing in

Be mindful that not all are entered for the ARC even Christmas Day isnā€™t for example.

Forum Tards Ascot 1 mole


1  Dellawoffler
2  Dellabollox
3  Dellatarkshyte
4  Dellabluffer
5  Dellaliar
6  Tobymugs
7  Tobyliar
8  Tobyfantasist
9  Tobynobber
10 Tobynutter

8/1 the field.

Delashay 05 Aug 26 22:43 
Unfortunately looks like Beyhrana has had a set back sheā€™s out to 40 and been removed by the high street firms.
Lucky I was able to cash that out before the news broke.

Ricardo says he has no knowledge of the cash out.

Lets be honest here..the real tards on a horse racing discussiom forum here are the likes of Rico..Uptheirons..Saddo ..Kenbo to name a few who dont offer up any opinions about horses or discussions re. horses but just post abuse about other forumites like Deli or Toby whoever who do happen to post an opinion on horse racing.Sure I come on to complain about bad rides etc but at least its an opine on horse racing etc not just abusing other forumites who happen to want to discuss god forbid something in relation to horse racing rather than ridicile peope with post your bets ta and pure vile abuse...in my opinion these are the people who have ruined the forum as a place to discuss racing. Should be more posts akin to Foyleswar s posts but generally when others do it descends into mindless abuse from the usual cohorts..just my opinion...

eye conquer wiv d-man.

As you stated that,"greys never quicken",De man,You are hardly in a position to criticise others,imo

Your "opinion" bubbles, if you EVER post one, will mean nothing. De_man has nailed you bang on.

The opinion of a fantasist like you Dickster?
One of us has a funded BF,the other is you

Same old nonsense.  Clown just can't resist.
One of us does MOST of his betting in shops. One of us is cleaning up.
The other NEVER leaves his bedsit as he's on here 14 hours a day typing tripe. That is you.

De_man 08 Aug 26 06:39 
Lets be honest here..the real tards on a horse racing discussiom forum here are the likes of Rico..Uptheirons..Saddo ..Kenbo anf dickster the pretend irishman to name a few who dont offer up any opinions about horses or discussions re. horses but just post abuse about other forumites like Deli or Toby whoever who do happen to post an opinion on horse racing.Sure I come on to complain about bad rides etc but at least its an opine on horse racing etc not just abusing other forumites who happen to want to discuss god forbid something in relation to horse racing rather than ridicile peope with post your bets ta and pure vile abuse...in my opinion these are the people who have ruined the forum as a place to discuss racing. Should be more posts akin to Foyleswar s posts but generally when others do it descends into mindless abuse from the usual cohorts..just my opinion...

eye conquer with D-man.

Behrayna is missing in the Prix Vermeille. Any update, plz?

Sheā€™s number 18 Impossible still in there but Iā€™ve found no updates.

Cheers 'Delashay'. I missed it somehow. I hope she's ok.

Youā€™re welcome, it seems so odd that thereā€™s no one asking why sheā€™s been removed from the betting.

The result of the 12:18 at Deauville today makes it even more frustrating because form-lines are there that suggest that over the intermediate distance the French fillies are better than the French colts.

The race was won by Mazzala

Heā€™d beaten another Wertheimer & Frere colt called Mature

These are the lines for Mature:

3/7 btn 2Ā½L Dolmalan 9-0 (beaten 3L by Constitution River in the JC)

5/7 btn 4Ā¼L Pink Panthera 8-11

5/7 btn 2Ā½L Mazzala 9-

I kick myself for missing that today @ 18/1 on those lines, but was busy.

I hope Behrayna makes it. She'd be a serious contender in this. At the moment I've nothing doing until the St Leger and Gold Cup in March 2027. The Champions Day at Ascot in October is too iffy given the probable softish ground.

On France gallop she is listed as in training, normally when something has been retired itā€™s updated.

EntraƮneur FH. GRAFFARD (S)

Hereā€™s what itā€™s says for her stablemate who was retired but even the description is a little confusing!

ZAYIDA EntraƮneur SORTIE PROVISOIRE (16/06/2026) (two days after the Diane)

Translates as ,

temporary leave

interim release

So no current trainer.

I donā€™t know how often this is updated.

Hereā€™s hoping that she does.

Iā€™ll update if anything shows up.

Please do. My other Jan B is a no show.

Thoroughbreddailynews reports sheā€™s certainly out for the season and possibly wonā€™t race again

Thanks Lester, itā€™s terrible that thereā€™s been no word from connections, with two days racing at Deauville this weekend.

They have gone down in my estimation even further after how they treated Rouget.

From the site mentioned above by kind poster Lester Lad. Another reason Iā€™d never subscribe to the RP.

Behrayna Done For The Year After Setback; Retirement Possible

Saturday, August 8, 2026 at 3:04 pm | Back to: Europe, Shared News Europe
Updated: August 8, 2026 at 3:08 pm

Unbeaten in four starts, the multiple group winner Behrayna (Sea The Moon) has sustained a setback and is likely to be retired, Jour de Galop reported on Saturday.

The Aga Khan Studs-bred filly won at ParisLongchamp at first asking in April, before adding the Listed Prix de la Seine and G3 Prix de Royaumont, both in May. In her latest start, she was victorious in the G2 Prix de Malleret for Francis-Henri Graffard.

Nemone Routh, racing manager for the Aga Khan Studs, told the publication, ā€œShe encountered a problem after her last race, and it is certain she will not race again this year. We are even seriously considering ending her career.


ā€œIt is a shame, because we know she possesses great quality and could have been a Group 1 filly. At home, she works with very good horses, but her confirmation is not exactly straightforward. She is a big fillyā€“with plenty of height and substanceā€“and she is also very game.ā€

Out of the placed mare Behnasa (Dansili), Behrayna is a half-sister to the stakes-placed Kitten's Joy gelding Behtar, as well as Waldgeist's Listed Prix Madame Jean Couturie third Benamira. Behnasa, a half-sister to G1 Grand Prix de Paris hero and sire Behkabad, was sold in foal to Vadeni to Atlas Bloodstock for ā‚¬45,000 during the 2024 Arqana Vente d'Elevage.

ā€œI think the effort required during her last run, on fast ground, may have taken its toll given her physique. The Princess [Zahra] is, first and foremost, a breeder. The filly's dam has been sold, and we have only one sister left from this family, so there is no question of taking any risks with Behrayna.

ā€œShe is lovely, very honest, and we know the quality she possesses. It is therefore quite likely that we will not see her race again.ā€

enni watercolours for sale dellawoffler?

ā€At home, she works with very good horsesā€

Remember Iā€™d told you that she worked with Calandagan? They knew what they had and she too is too valuable like Zayida to race again, they are a farm.

Thanks again LL for confirming what Iā€™d feared at least it wasnā€™t fatal.

khokivov looks a big price in the 3.05

Such a shame. Happy retirement Behrayna!

I think Princess Zahra may not be too pleased with her trainer F Graffard. If it's true the horse's exertion on firm going last time has done the damage, it's twice now F Graffard has made the wrong decision to run a very good horse and another with huge potential on unsuitable ground.

Back to the drawing board for me. Maybe a selection post the ARC trials next month.

correct foyles..shud have been 1000

Just seen Nemone Routh the AGA racing manager saying , ā€œWe knew she was a Group 1 filly because of what sheā€™d shown us in the morningsā€¦ā€

( When she worked with Calandagan)

Barza was maybe over confident last time Impossible.

Home work is often misleading

It may not be a direct coloration to whatā€™s seen on the treacle, but he uses it as a guide with his younger horses, the work that Daryz did with him encouraged them to go for the Arc last year.

Coloration tends to change as horses get older, particularly greys. Surprising that a self proclaimed artist would not know the difference between coloration and correlation? Mind you one that adds plagiarism to his palette is always going to be suspect?

Iā€™m not here for petty squabbles with those who have no option but one about me.

notes Nemone Routh, director of the Aga Khan Studs. MickaĆ«l (Barzalona) told us that as soon as he asked her, she had really accelerated, and that when she found her rhythm, she wouldnā€™t stop. She is very pleasant, goes into all terrains and has a lot of class," concluded our interlocutor about the one who had recently worked with Calandagan and Daryzan.

Think that the work might have influenced them to run a once raced colt Ina Group 1 on his second start?

By the way Iā€™m know for my unique use of colour.

Varindar is entered for the Chaudenay 1m 7f on Arc Weekend, he too worked with her and Calandagan Iā€™d say they know what they have and as certain bookies had kept her onside and knew of the setback before others they obviously knew too.

Ā£40 @ 44 for Daryzan, He came from 65 after her setback.

Tbf you do better than Impossible with English as your second language.

People that get hung up on mistypes aren't my kind.

Put up an opinion on the race or please vacate and go elsewhere to get yourself a boner.

People that get hung up on mistypes arenā€™t my kind, if youā€™ve no opinion on the race go elsewhere to get your excitement.

Delbert can never be wrong,even when he is

I don't rely on cut and paste bull to form an opinion Delashay, my opinion will be before the race unlike you. Btw maybe you need a new keyboard that can spell analyst or differentiate between "Could have" and "Could of" etc, mistypes? lol

Balding said that if Kalpana has come out of her big run in the George she will run in the Yorkshie Oaks and then head to the Arc and then onto Ascot.

I donā€™t like that plan Brandy, could be one race too many.

It is only a plan

They had mentioned the Vermille also, taking in the Yorkshire Oaks would make me lay off if Iā€™d backed her.

But,have you actually done so,Delbert?

Did the same more or less last season,September Stks instead of The Yorkshire Oaks.

Sheā€™s not on my radar as said to Angela R for reasons stated.

Fine

Sheā€™s the only one thatā€™s admitted to backing her, the rest keep stum, she got 20/1 which is fair enough @ 8/1 no thanks.

Thereā€™s a few questions to be asked, who will AOB send?

Who would people think would be more suited to running or likely to run, River or Necklace?

I would have preferred Kalpana to go straight to the Arc.
But the York race still gives her time.

I can't see Coolmore running Constitution myself. It has not been the way they do things with their 3 year old colts for a while now.
Hoping they run Diamond Necklace and I think she will more likely of the two. But the Opera is also an option.

There could be a change in their thinking this year if Constitution River wins the International, if he did and then won the Arc it would be straight to stud duties as a son of Wootton Bassett would be a bloodline they will covet. The most obvious though would be Diamond Necklace getting all the allowances.

Cheers Brandy agree with the things that youā€™ve said there.

Thereā€™s more races that you take in the less likely a target it seems, take Estrange they have pulled out of the Yorkshire Oaks because they have their G1 and want to target Longchamp this year.
I donā€™t like when connections want to go pot hunting along the way.

What bothers me, is Gialvetto beat Kaplana twice, once at Kempton, then at her track this year. Yet sheā€™s said to have improved.

I asked on the KG thread if anyone wondered if Botti would have regretted not taking in that race?

The trouble is we know how good he is through Sosie and his runs in the Arc and Hong Kong last year.

Kaplana is an admirable mate but her one unplaced run came at Longchamp last year.

Agree to with all of that.

River has been given a new rating one which I find hard to believe, Necklace hasnā€™t had hers updated since Goodwood, so thatā€™ll be interesting to see how they compare.

River now already has a rating that would place him in an Arc.

Itā€™s been a day of updates about retired horses.

The racing manager also took the opportunity to give the latest news about Behrayna, who will no longer be seen in competition, and Dolmalan. ā€œMy assistants declared her as being at the end of her career in France at the France Galop site. She will not appeal; she is too valuable. She is a filly who is physically important and also very generous, so you shouldnā€™t take too many risks. We are still convinced that she is a group I filly, but we have already sold her mother, Behnasa, so we canā€™t take the slightest risk... Finally, Dolmalan has left Mikel Delzangles' stable because we sold him. He will continue his career in Hong Kong.ā€

So Team Aga are putting all their eggs into the Daryz basket for the Arc, unless they try and run Daryzan who has less experience than Daryz had in entering last years race.

France Galop listing,

Trainer FIN DE CARRIERE EN FRANCE (10/08/2026)

(END OF CAREER IN FRANCE)

In the middle of August, as tradition dictates, the Deauville meeting is currently in full swing. But at Chantilly, the activity was just as intense on the slopes on Tuesday morning. Indeed, the winner of the last edition of the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe (Gr.I), Daryz, who remains on a third place in the Prince Of Walesā€™s Stakes (Gr.I), has made an impression on "the Eagles", as explained by Nemone Routh, who manages the interests of the Aga Khan Studs. ā€œHe did a good work on the grass. We are gently preparing his goal, which is the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe. Before that, he will start in the Prix Foy (Gr.II).

As 8-1 joint-second favourite for the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe, Diamond Necklace is set to take in the Group 1 Prix Jean Romanet, an established Arc trial over a mile and a quarter at Deauville on August 23.

Yes heā€™d hinted at that after her last run, looked at the enteries not a lot there to tell us more. Itā€™s not like sheā€™s doing anything that she hasnā€™t done by wining that.

Today sees the 1:33 G2 Dā€™Orno and rematch between Jockey Club 3rd and 7th Montreal & Daryzan.

Later (4:00) sees the unquoted QualityCar take on Leffard, Map Of Stars etcā€¦

Graffard had this to say about his Even money colt today.


A few minutes later, it will be Daryzanā€™s turn to enter the race in the Prix Guillaume d'Ornano (Gr. II). This protĆ©gĆ© of the Aga Khan Studs, who finished seventh in the Prix du Jockey Club (Gr. I) During his penultimate outing, he quickly bounced back by winning a race with strings on the turf of Chantilly recently.

ā€œLately, Iā€™ve wanted to start from scratch with him. Initially, I had planned to race the Listed on Sunday (the Prix Nureyev, editorā€™s note), but it really took off. The colt is very good and I hope he can take his revenge on Montreal, who had dominated him in the Jockey Club.ā€

If they have back door Arc aspirations he needs to win today.
He was due to take in a listed tomorrow so itā€™s interesting with his comment about his well being that heā€™s opted for tougher but more lucrative race today.

saying soft ground at dueville but is it? possibly good to soft id imagine ,any thoughts guys ?

Best maybe to wait and see Foyles thereā€™s a race before, the evs has gone, if the horse is good enoughā€¦

At least good ground. Probably on the faster side as has been the case this week.

Cualificar is 33/1, Dela.

He is Brandy with the Bā€™s but heā€™s not listed on the exchange, there are only 72 listed and 73 entries, so itā€™s a false market and odd to me.
Iā€™ve written and asked for him to be added but they palm you off with ā€œitā€™s been passed on to our trading team.ā€

We should be able to play/trade the odds there also.

the mile group 3 looks a decent betting race.

I see what you mean.
Strange that they are missing him.

It is Brandy, as he doesnā€™t have much to find with Kalpana on that ST Cloud Run.

No Arc horse for the Aga there, though the fav and Montreal flopped the form of the JC still was franked by Pearled Majesty last time out when beating todayā€™s winner the exposed Baroud.

Looks a poor race on first impression. But Boudout is schooling them all and riding really well since his return.

I hope at least 2 3 yr olds win the ARC trials. And, unless a 3 yr old colt or filly wins this yr's renewal the winner will not amount to much, in my opinion.

I canā€™t have anything from the PDJC or GPDP as said to you Impossible I think that the fillies were better.

The filly that may usurp all could be from AOB / Coolmore however much I detest them ie Diamond Necklace. But, at the moment it's still too risky to back her if there is a change of plan, etc. I hate being conned by this lot of charlatans of horseracing.

On the lines the AGA filly had her beating and they have the beating of the colts through who Pink Pantera beat prior her Dine run.
Itā€™s a 8/1 gamble right now Impossible and Iā€™d prefer that than backing Kaplana at the same price.

The ground is going to play a massive part, thereā€™s the horses who want soft and those whoā€™ll take their chances if itā€™s firm.

I donā€™t think that Calandgan is the same horse and Iā€™m looking to a less exposed type even older as an each way play. I donā€™t like having a bet in a race once Iā€™ve had one and may regret it but Iā€™ll do so for the interest.

Iā€™d mentioned Fabreā€™s horse not being quoted and heā€™s ran another stinker today, he did last year at Deauville when beaten by the Japanese Alohi Ali.

Maybe itā€™s just not his track?

He and Kalpana both have one thing in common. That is that their only unplaced run was in the Arc, well before today that stat could be attached to him.

One was 8/1 the other 33/1.

I watched back last years Arc a few days back, Iā€™d recommend anyone whoā€™s backed Kalpana to do so too.

Both horse ran unplaced for the first time there, Buick rode a stinker aboard the Fabre 3yr old QualityCar but I couldnā€™t see any excuse for Kalpana?

The one thing that may have been a thumbs down was that she was ridden too wide perhaps? Too wide, too prominent?

But when let down she didnā€™t find much and was caught easily by Sosie. She only has half a furlong of kick, so if sheā€™s drawn wide Iā€™d hold no hope. Sheā€™d need to be handy and hope that she can hold on after taking a 1L or two out of those behind.

I do not fancy Kalpana however, I do hope the Balding clan would win this race. I've taken a chance with a Ā£1 win double with Pierre on Tuesday at York.

She also lost her cheek piece after the false home straight.


Only two firms have pushed the Fabre flop today out, b&h 40/1 & 50/1

Good luck Impossible.

Such a shame about Behrayna. She'd be a major player for sure.