Arc De Triomphe ‘26

Derby form has been trashed on here, that must include the Irish version then too?

We have the Irish Oaks coming up, the Eclipse has been won, the GPDP will be soon and numerous races at Deauville.

Who’s everyone fancying this far out?!

F/O you non betting bullshatter

A long shot Bay City Roller esp if the going is soft or worse. I do not fancy the older fillies or the Oaks winner. As for the 3 yr old colts none will be from AOB / Coolmore. I've forgotten the Derby winner already; Jan Brueghel is friendless. I hope he's being saved for this or money down the swanny.

Delashay 09 Jul 26 19:58 
So it’s that time of year when we can look at form and discuss the merits of those currently at the top of the market.Although as per i wont commit to a selleckshun i will copy and paste every trainer/jockey quote i see and when the result is known i will claim it as an advisory.

Let’s play the game fair but still enjoy the summer season left, whilst looking ahead….


dellawoffle,GFY you boring DC.🚾únt.

LOL

i reckon that last years 1st and 2nd will be there , and estrange

3 good picks there ellis.

Not many defend their crown, and i am happy to look beyond last years winner and favourite,  Daryz.

Constitution River is very likeable. He looks a horse who just does enough and keeps some back for himself. The trip should be no problem. But it is not normally the MO of Ballydoyle to send their best 3 year old colt to the Arc.
Benvenuto will surely be their Breeders Cup horse.
So there is a possibility Constitution River may come here, but the Irish Champion will be his main Autumn target.

I backed Diamond Necklace after her Pouliche victory for this, but i am not confident of her staying the trip, or even running here.

I prefer to back 3 year olds for this, so I have added Varandir to the portfolio (33/1)
Bit of a gamble as they have the favourite,  but he has a Grand Prix De Paris entry, so have taken a chance.

i like a couple at this  early stage and sunly and daryzan are both decent prices and open to plenty of improvement daryzan is 2 from 3 looked very good on debut and lacked exp in the jockey club but still ran well not btn that far and the form is looking  solid  with the 1st and 2nd franking the form in the  eclipse  the step up in trip should help 33/1 firms and 60 ish on here looks fair imo.
sunly not btn far by calandagan and wont have that one to worry about  open to improvement40/1 ew firms appeals.

So boring that you're the main contributor so far

The biggest flat race of the season.

No harm in having RACING chat on a thread for it.

not everyones cup of tea  backing this early but some big prices to be had and you havent got to put loads on at those prices and plenty of time to drip feed here and there with 10 ers and scores till the big day ,if they get there on the day  in all likelyhood they will be shorter .

Well said, brandy. The a ten shun seeker is not well versed enough to
join in, hence the sniping.

Superbly taken.

Delashay 24 Jun 26 18:12
Mbappe is over rated

this the clown that starts this fred ^  pmsl 😆

3 months out maybe too far for you.
That is perfectly acceptable.
Not a problem.
No need to ruin the thread for people who are happy
to discuss the race, though.

get a grip brandy ydc.

brandy..what ewe fancty for the 2027 grand national? ennithing catch ya eye?

Probably a Mullins horse.

emmet?

bayarahna another graffard aga khan unbeaten could be anything  3 from 3  filly  worth keeping an eye on.

whats it drawn foyles?

all part of ante post punting , obviously  no one knows what the draw will be now ,no one knows for sure what   will line up we have a fair idea the going wont be firm .

This thread will give the loon Delbert ample opportunity to C&P a multitude of C&P quotes from which he will eventually "aftertime" whatever wins

i also tend to favour 3yos and as alluded to quite often the frenchies  are often underestimated by our firms /media ,odds compilers etc , for  the french trainers the arc is the big one and many have this as the target all season building towards it , whereas coolmore  and our trainers have champions day and the breeders cup races as  the  end of season  goal ,not saying the brits  cant or wont win it but i dont think its  at top of their agenda .

and yes i know sunly is a 4yo^^

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and glad that there’s some interest in it, despite not knowing the draw or going!

The negatives aside, it’s not to early to look ahead, I recall reading Scott Burton (I think it was) last year on how the Grand Prix Saint - Cloud can have a bearing on the Arc.

It was a good reminder of how Youmzain had won it and then placed, the most unlucky Arc horse ever!

So I’d not put you off of any of your selections.

The trouble is one trainer having so many candidates, all mentioned above.

Waiting this morning to see the entries for one race in particular, The Prix De MALLERET.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and glad that there’s some interest in it, despite not knowing the draw or going!

the 2 most important factors to this race and the forums most boring poster along with his clown degenerate followers discussing the race 3mths beforehand..

ewe simply cud not mek it up. 😆

if you can put the malleret  entries up  when they are known would be handy thanks ,yeah graff having loads of entries adds to the puzzle the thing is the 2 or 3 im interested in are all 33s plus and i have no qualms about backing so many this far out at those type of prices. have only backed 2 so far but will add a third soon.

rico last season daryz was 66/1 and 50s for the arc  after his debut win in june , so was it a clown bet ?

if ewe bet every horse to win an arc after 1 run ewe would be thrown in the clown colony.

Enable was 5000 to win the arc after its debut run at Newcastle.

sadly had nixi on.

PRIX DE MALLERET 14/07/2026  PARISLONGCHAMP

PINK PANTHERA

BEHRAYNA

DISPATCHES Fabre

PROXIMA DU CENTAUR

Zlata Ire F.ps. 3 A.

Final decs and draw are tomorrow  Dispatches beat Calandagan’s sister Calista who franked the form next time out over 1m 4f so she will be a good test for BEHRAYNA.

I thought that they might be kept apart until the Vermille.

GRAND PRIX DE PARIS  14/07/2026 00h00, PARISLONGCHAMP

VARANDIR

ALAM

ANCIENT EGYPT

SPACE WALTZ

CAUSEWAY

LIMESTONE

MALTESE CROSS

Alam has looked like he’s been wanting this trip for some time, was finishing well in the Jockey Club, Delzangles said that he felt that he was a Group horse despite taking a few attempts to get off of the mark.

Formlines can can drawn and made to the fillies through the colt Regal Resolve who has been beaten by Alam and Pink Pantera.
BEHRAYNA would have the beating of Diamond Necklace on that line.

PROXIMA DU CENTAUR Gives lines to both Dispatches and BEHRAYNA, albeit over 1m 2f and 1m 4f.

aOB has used this race in the past for his Leger hackers.

At the beginning of the year Graffard worked his 3 year olds with Caladgan, Varindar won the same race as Darayz, later that day Behranya won, given that they’d both worked with the multiple Group 1 winner that gave them confidence in her.

Daryzan also worked with him and the filly, which led them to pitching him into the Jockey Club after the one start.

I don’t know who came out on top during these works but there was talk of keeping the Behranya back for the autumn which sounded like a hint.

Graffard said of the unbeaten winner on Sky Sports Racing: "I'm very pleased, it was a logical entry after her winning debut. She has a bit of class this filly.

"She can really quicken and maintain this acceleration with a lot of strength so he (jockey) was very pleased with her."
Graffard won the same Listed race 12 months ago with subsequent Prix de Royaumont winner Sunly and the same Chantilly race is among Behrayna's next options. The trainer said: "There are two routes possible, we either go to the Prix de Royaumont with her or we give it a go in a bigger target.
"I always thought she was going to be my mile and a half filly, but Mikael said she will do the Prix de Diane no problem."

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/sea-the-moons-behrayna-gives-graffard-a-classic-quandary/

“She's a lovely filly, we've always liked her and I have always wanted to step her up to a mile-and-a-half,� revealed Francis Graffard. “She showed me that I was right, as she can be a little bit off the bridle, and she needs plenty of time to get going. This filly has plenty of ability and is an exciting prospect. I'll need to see how she comes back from this, but we know soft ground will not be a problem.
Either she stays in France for the [July 14 G2] Prix de Malleret [at ParisLongchamp], or I could give her plenty of time and focus on the autumn. I could maybe also have a look at the [G1] Irish Oaks with her.�


He’s played down her turn of foot there above because he’s also said that she has instant acceleration. Going be interesting seeing her vs Dispatches who is 3 from 4.

Thanks 'Delashay'. You've piqued my interest. I'll have a look. I do not fancy the winner or the runner-up of last year.

That’s cool and you’re welcome.

The clip above of BEHRAYNA beating Pink Pantera was on soft going, Pink needs quick ground so the distance between the pair may have been exaggerated.
That being said I’m surprised that they are running her over the Classic distance as I thought that she was outstayed in the Prix Diane.
I’m thinking that they are testing her with a view to Arc weekend, Arc or Opera, but obviously the ground might have gone for her then. I did read that they had an eye on the Arc but the Aga filly is more likely to stay and has proven it.

Her and Dispatches look the best two 3yr old fillies but as of yet they’ve not been tested at the top level.

This is after her win in Prix de Royaumont

https://www.facebook.com/jourdegalop/videos/prix-de-royaumont-gr3-chantillybehrayna-f3-sea-the-moon-reste-invaincue-en-sadju/4589833771251877/



Francis Graffard’s charge proved them right, winning with ease and establishing herself as one of the most exciting fillies of the spring in French horse racing. Running to perfection, Behrayna didn’t have to dig deep to win, and the 2-length margin at the finish (over the brave Zlata) doesn’t necessarily reflect the difference in class between the two. The winner does indeed seem to be clearly a cut above.

“She didn’t have the best run; she got off to a bit of a slow start, and we know it’s never easy to make up ground on a track like Chantilly,� noted Nemone Routh, director of the Aga Khan Studs. “Mickaël (Barzalona) told us that as soon as he asked her to, she accelerated well, and that once she found her rhythm, she didn’t stop. She’s a pleasure to ride, handles all types of terrain, and has a lot of class,� concluded our interviewee regarding the mare who had recently trained with Calandagan and Daryzan. At one point, the Prix de Diane was an option for Behrayna before Zayida (winner on May 19 at Chantilly) established herself within the stable.

Could be another Treve. The ability to travel well, and then accelerate.

Treve won the G1 prix de Diane at chantilly in her 3rd career race in a time 3 seconds faster than average om good ground
Behrayna win a G3 at chantilly in her 3rd career race in a time 4 seconds slower than average on good ground, carrying 3lbs less.
Behrayna was racing over 1 1/2 F farther but hardly comparable form.

Delashay 09 Jul 26 19:58
So it’s that time of year when we can look at form and discuss the merits of those currently at the top of the market.Although as per i wont commit to a selleckshun i will copy and paste every trainer/jockey quote i see and when the result is known i will claim it as an advisory.

Let’s play the game fair but still enjoy the summer season left, whilst looking ahead….

LOL

Mc I think and I can’t talk for him that Impossible meant in terms of style and potential?

Sure as said she’s not been tested yet but seems to have a great temperament.

Wouldn’t you all like to have seen the work with Calandagan? I know I would!

It was the work that Daryz did with him last year that tilted him towards the Arc.

There’s a lady who posts the work occasionally, I’ll be keeping an eye out for any posts!

Impossible if it’s a bog Bay City has to come into consideration, he seems like Cirrus in that he’s able to swim as his Corrine used to say!

Rico there’s no need to carry it on, wipe the slate clean forget it, you have your opinion about me and made it clear.

I’m ok with that, but it’s all wasted time and energy.

You asked on your alternate thread when the draw is?

This year they won’t be releasing that publicly until a day after it’s been made, which sounds dodgy to me as someone’s bound to get a whiff of it.

So be interesting to see any price adjustments when it’s been made.

uptheirons 09 Jul 26 23:04 
This thread will give the loon Delbert ample opportunity to C&P a multitude of C&P quotes from which he will eventually "aftertime" whatever wins

I have very few horses to discuss and have shared info for those who have an interest other than being negative.

The 5 stand their ground for the MALLERET Tuesday.

Keane goes over to ride Dispatches, Boudout is on Pink P who is top rated.

It’s basically the Vermille in July for the home runners.

Delashay 10 Jul 26 14:56 
You asked on your alternate thread when the draw is?

This year they won’t be releasing that publicly until a day after it’s been made

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That sounds absolutely bizarre, have they given a reason?

It’s a new initiative that they’ve come up with to add to the build up.

Obviously it leaves room for people to prosper from the info and as people talk I can’t see it being a secret too many involved from the stables etc….

I see, of course it won't affect PMU bettors.

No I’m not sure how it will affect the exchange it terms of how long it’ll be down for.

Understandable that they haven't considered exchange/fixed odds punters though, it's their show.

Of course they are day of the race punters but their racing press is always quoting our bookmaker odds, so are we to believe any talk of money that’s come for one the day of the draw?