this has to be the worse eclipse ever on saturday

Delashay Mark just WON the last race at SAlISBURY , but according to YOU he's still NOT training... Guess I'm a worse fool for engaging with you...

It is very simple Delbert ( a bit like you).
The RP Standard time for 12F at The Curragh is 2.31.9
The RP Standard time for 12F at Epsom is 2.35.6
If that Bell a moron so be it but it is a fact

Whatever you say, my fault I didn’t read your post and take that much notice of it, trying to compare others to the AOB isn't really in my interest with a fanboy of his.

I cannot see Con River (CR) taking on Ombudsman unless vfa is in his favour. I'll take Ombudsman to eat CR for breakfast over 10f, all things being equal.

It is not the fault of AOB to avoid the champion of its division ie Ombudsman. But, for the game of the sport AOB / Coolmore ought to pitch their best horses including 3 yr olds against Ombudsman eg CR given the distance of The Eclipse and International at York.

I was gobsmacked to read Magnier Snr was against the inclusion of geldings in The ARC solely on breeding. As a racing fan I do not give two hoots about breeding. I just like to see the best horses run in a race. Anyway Coolmore have been breeding mediocre Derby winners, a disservice to horseracing in my opinion.

Golden Horse won The ARC from stall 14 as a 3 yr old. Similarly, Sea The Stars won The ARC too as a 3 yr old. These two names are still fresh in the minds of many racing enthusiasts contrary to those from The AOB / Coolmore eg here today, gone tomorrow.

Only one firm are showing on OC, some really desperate to try and get one over on me it seems!

What a sad bitter lot.

We all know Clooney lives in Stoke and it’s a dark and shabby town, according to Trapman.

We all know mark is one of the luckiest trainers to ever have won the Arc.

He’s an assswipe by the way for his love and admiration for Bull Fighting.

It is not what I say,it is a fact.
However,many semi mugs thought otherwise,just like you

Who’s stepping up taking the 11/10 about the odds on shot on the faith that he shows up on Saturday?

Today after the news broke about earlier that you were told about yesterday?

List below all backers :

That price,9/2, was put up to help you out in the supposed double.
Well GET Fckd in future.

My net is losing slow and thanks wasn’t sure if you were trying to rip the peee too Pen

He doesn't bet,penzance,despite endless reams of C&P and an unrivalled record in Aftertiming

As said it’s not showing on OC and I don’t want to place it, the point is we should be able to play the game vs the trainer and their antics.

You get me?

I don’t have an account with them, told them to poke it when they wouldn’t take a 63.

The O'brains Stakes

Have to change the format on here, posts crossing over too.

AOB left Ben in the King Edward at Ascot citing it was a long way to the Irish Derby. What, 9 days apart? Mr Gosden was correct not to send his star to run in the backyard of AOB given the battalion and team tactic AOB regularly deployed.

63P is a lot for you

Thanks for the heads up.

For those who think that it’s all conspiracy talk it’s not, it’s about working out who’s going where.

I play AP unlike many of you but like Impossible does too.

You’re right he did Impossible another occasion when he played the game.

Had no intention of going to Ascot but told his buds at the post and they were happy to report it.

Sir henry and most trainers did tell people their plans , harwood for instance told all that d brave was craven, 2000 and derby all along , henry said tenby was dante and derby , and that he was running comm in chief coz he thought tenby wouldnt stay,  hern didnt say a thing about nashwan before 2000 . but afterwards he said eclpse, kg arc trial , and those trainers usually stood by their plans but for injury etc

They were around before my time John.

The top trainer would bypass the Irish Derby for the King Edward? Only an invertebrate or a moron would believe that.

I cannot see Con River and Hawk Mountain doing battle in The Eclipse. Both may turn up running against Ombudsman in The International. Let's hope Soumillon rides Hawk Mountain. I've little doubt a team tactic will once again be utilised by AOB / Coolmore.

With Henry, Stoute, Cumani, Harwood, etc, they did not run a battalion or deploy team tactic in the race. A pacesetter at best eg Cataldi in a Gp 1. These trainer were gentlemen, sporting and principled. Also, very seldom did they've multiple entries for their stars.

We’ll see who turns up, I never saw a Harwood horse run.

Pen Becket runs his Derby runner in Germany at the weekend, the sole British horse.

DEL, you didnt see dancing brave run, ? harwood stable those days was superb, great horses Warning, saddam, to agori,  to name a few , he was training in the era of seriously great trainers and jockeys , i was lucky enough to remember the 70s to 90s era .

Workrider/Saxon Farm

Save your breath, it's a waste of time. A couple of numpties that wouldn't know the difference between Longchamp and Lingfield even if they tripped over a copy of Paris Turf.

I fail to understand why anyone would have a pop at AOB simply over entries, they are what it says on the tin. As for Constitution River not running against Hawk Mountain, why not, they met 30 days ago. I'm not suggesting they will both run, but why wouldn't they.

Workrider, York in August ? I may come over.

No John unfortunately I didn’t and the clip of him winning the Arc doesn’t do his effort justice as it does t show the start of his run.

Andrew aka Snotty nose, keep your cheap digs to yourself, you’re not as clued up as you make out, that’s been proven.

You thought a pit pony like Aventure was up to winning the Arc last year giving weight to 3 years!

I’d posted that it wasn’t likely but I’m glad you did your money you jumped up pilchard!

Yes Andrew already have my ticket, though I wouldn't be surprised if you knocked on my door before then...

And what ALB does with his entries time and again is out of order, he’s no nice guy but as you show and others on here there’s lots of bitter c you next turedsays on here!

* and in racing.

Workrider

A few trips to London in the planning 'pipeline' and even thinking about Sandown if Constitution River runs this weekend, but prior to York, the only meeting in Dublin i would go over for is the Oaks on July 26th. Calandagan runs at Saint Cloud on Sunday, another possible as it's close, better than the German Derby in Hamburg and not much difference in distance.

Don't blame The O'Brians for this, blame the British trainers reluctant to run against them.

The smart ones are Burrows, Charlton and Varian who have entered runners that between them have

0nly a G 3 win a G 3 2nd and 2 Listed wins. Why are they smart? Because,by the time 2 or 3 come out

they have a shot at 3rd 4th 5th or 6th prize money- 106.8k, 53.3k, 26.2k and 17.4k respectively.

Delbert throws his toys out of his pram again

So both are declared, so why are people unable to understand my issue with 1 the reporting 2 the games that the trainer plays with the reporters?

Denis Harney
Reporter
Published on 1 July 2026inFlat racing
Last updated 13:36, 1 July 2026

Aidan O'Brien will surprisingly run both Constitution River and Hawk Mountain in Saturday's Coral-Eclipse (3.35).
The Ballydoyle trainer kept four in contention for the 1m2f Group 1 at Monday's confirmations stage, but he said at that point no decision would be made over the participation of key players Constitution River and Hawk Mountain.

O'Brien had indicated it would be one or the other, but he revealed to the Racing Post on Wednesday afternoon that connections have decided both will head to Sandown.

Is it clear now what I dislike?

Don’t make any suggestion to the media as it’s misleading. I’ll let you question why he’s doing it.

But from my point of view it’s to play one off of the other.

There was hardly anything between them at Chantilly yet because of the trainers words prices were 10/11 vs 16/1

Perhaps because you are an obsessive motormouthed moron,Delbert who wants to tell a World Class Trainer how to conduct his business?

The 3rd issue with the bet was that prices for the International @ York weren’t available when 16/1 was for this race.

Yet we can bet on Cheltenham next year!

By the time prices were up the odds had been slashed yesterday.

So Penzance there is no proposed or supposed double because the odds weren’t there on offer.

It wouldn't matter to Delbert anyway as he doesn't bet

I’m going to watch the boys now enjoy writing about me, thinking about me, wasting your time on me!

Unemployed and unemployable Delbert

the group2  lancashire oaks is another shocker borderline listed id say

There seems a lack of opinion on here about the winner, has AOB running two confused punters?

Because that’s what I’ve been suggesting is his aim for some time now.

The blinkers are off today but what else do you notice?

Looked like Moore was giving a good squeeze there the get over the line in a race set up for him.

I’d wondered at the time if he might drop back to take on Bow at Goodwood immediately after this race.

Any 'games' would be for opposing trainers, not John in Ladbrokes

No such thing as a bad Eclipse imo.

My definition of a ”bad race” is one with a short priced favourite that’s been won before its run.

Fair enough….but it’s up there with the Derby,KG and Arc tbh….throw in the benson and hedges at York…

I’m not criticising it Ace, there is an element of intrigue here because of how close they finished last time out, plus taking on their elders.
We had a match up between the generations in the Gala Stakes yesterday.

On or from a ratings perspective it’s not a classic but I’m not a ratings follower.

A couple of bookies and some pundits are against Con River at the shortie price. A couple are going 6/4 and 7/4 in their price boost.

How can this renewal be viewed as a classic? The shortie Con River has not won the 2000G or the Epsom Derby. The shortie has only the French Derby - not a race considered as significant or prestigious as the named two in the past; AOB usually sends his 2nd string there. Also, he was helped by the injudicious riding of the local jockeys who gave the AOB's jockeys an uncontested lead and team tactic for the best result possible.

Constitution river to beat hawk mountain in the forecast must be the play.

I wonder if the big hitter at Royal Ascot of AOB's runners will back Con River or Hawk Mountain. If so, how'll the bookies react?

Hawk Mountain is more than capable tbh….11/10 third place for those who punt in big money,like finding in the street tbh…

The big hitter could be playing. There's money for the fav. He's into 1.88 here now from 2.04 and more.

I’m watching the horses, there’s a lack of interest on here in the race.

I'm only half-watching this. I'm watching F1 today as it's live.

Not a lack of interest,merely an unwillingness to get involved with a loon like you,Delbert.
I am sure you will be on after the race aftertiming the winner,though

I had a write up ready I’ll save it for moi.

Good.
Do just that

KEN thinks the 4 to 6 fav,looks best and 2nd fav looks 2nd best

yawn,yawn,yawn

How unusual,1st timer

hawk mountain 14,s on here 

There’s nothing like talking about a race just before the OFF

Late Market watchers, have they confidence in their own opinion?

N That's because no sane poster wants to engage with an Autistic loon who only looks to try to score points

And yet Billy no mates lots of names is here!

It’s a re run of the Irish Derby sat behind those who went too fast.

Just to stop you doing your usual aftertiming

The big hitter could be collecting again. The bookies need to know when to stop taking on one of the lads of Coolmore backing his own horses.

He played the game will he win the run up until late, even sold the press the dummy that it was an afterthought!

Beat one time winner A Boy Named 3L there was 2 3/4L at Chantilly.

Naturally,Delbert saw through their bluff

I looking through it in the aftermath

A stern opposition to Ombudsman for The International at Goodwood? A good race in prospect if both turn up. My money is on Ombudsman for his sheer turn of foot eg race alongside Con River just behind the pacesetters, and then pounce using his turn of foot as Con River takes it up. It will be a very tactical race, with team tactic in operation no doubt. I hope Ombudsman is not blocked in by the AOB's battalion.

Everyone happy with today's race and the way it was run?

He certainly will not be blocked in at Goodwood as the race is run at York

THE LADs cant believe their luck when idiots like doyler are trying to keep up with 11 ec furlongs on their main danger

I think that it’s very sad that a Group 1 winner gets sacrificed again, to play punters between the two.

No one pre race came on and said Fav wins beats Hawk easier this time. Was ridden to get beat, but I’m not a steward.

As for Kings Gambit holding him in a little it was never going to last and nothing like Ascot.

Agree terrible judgement from Doyle, horse pulls too much for my liking, did last time and one to be wary of until it can race efficiently.

Sweat was dripping off too today.

to be fair ive had about enough of that brown wathnan fella been treated a some sort of racing sage at the big meetings for buying up all these hores for undisclosed sum only to get their tummy,s tickled by AOb and johnny g every week

Yet another "Best Ever" from AOB

Did you see the interview with him beforehand (itv) only said he was hopeful, not confident.

Was different to the hype posted about Burrows yesterday in the RP from that night at Sandown. Almeric got too close there for my liking.

They’ve had a slightly better time, I recall last year laughing at them being the unlucky lot, buying and winning little.

Like many football teams!

Surely not another best ever in the same season as Albert E!

It certainly is

Sea The Stars Eclipse Time 2m 03.40

Constitution River 2m 4.43

Dancing Brave 2m 5.10

The winner has a long way to go to be mentioned with the other two,kevo

Smith, one of the lads, stated Con River had to wait until a gap appeared. The pot calling a kettle black, Mr Smith?

I've just read (what's been reported) Moore said Con River is the best horse he's ridden. If he meant of all AOB's charges, I'd agree. The AOB / Coolmore horses were not superstars like Frankel, Dancing Brave, Seat The Stars, Treve, Golden Horn or even Enable. His next assignment against Ombudsman - all things being equal - could be a confirmation of his position in the hierarchy of horsey supremacy. Until then today's renewal is one of the weakest in the history of the race.

He beat A BOY Named a 1/4L more than when he reached wide, let’s put it into perspective.

The horse has won one race and benefitted from others over racing in G1’s and only won 1 race.

*raced

albert eintien wa bet he,d ridden checks notes 3 months ago ,argh well next

What a boring little t*t imbecile123 remains.

Thanks for your contribution to the thread.

And go tell your pal I want paying in readies when he fronts up to his mouth.

Delbert remains unable to show that he has a funded BF A/C.
Perhaps he is too shy

I thought cr was quite impressive

Didn't get the first opening, took second one and settled race quickly.

Look forward to seeing it do that against better horses, that might fight back.

bestte horse wonne; time stacjkes uppe very welle comparedde to lastte several runninggs, om simla goingge - and mostte demme been on toppe o' t'groundde too....  v good horse... #my2 :)

Looked laboured to me, they said let’s hope we see what we see at home etc… he’s never been bottomed, plodded on today to 1/4L more.

And wasn’t the stables only runner!

So they now use real bad horses to set the initial pace and Group winners or placed to sit forwards so that they aren’t ignored like a normal 200/1 shot setting the fractions!

Got you sussed