ENGLAND V GHANA. WHY.

Perhaps Ghana have a history of choosing ends rather than choosing to kick off?

CHAT GBT doesnt know of any supertitions etc and says lump on Ghana.

Now its England 1/2 and Ghana 6/4.

a bet for naive degens.

According to AI, Ghana do not prefer to kick off when winning the toss, England do.

Maybe. Without knowing what the prices are though, not many people would be pricing it up at those prices.

So no matter who wins the toss, England kick off first?

be wary of headwinds, plans change.

Captain gets to choose, Kane wins the toss he normally decides to kick off first, Ghana captain wins the toss he normally chooses which way to play, leaving England to kick off, doesnt have to though!!

And bookies doing their bit to stamp out 'fixing'

they are disscussing this on the football thread smartp

wouldnt touch it wi parge bowl

belgium and iran both odds on to kick off. 

they got more than one ball ?

Back Ghana more draw small win,then cash out when you hit a profit, 0r they go 1 up, then back England at a decent price, if you know you know

Ghana and Panama played out the worst game so far, I was surprised at just how bad Ghana, especially were.

Is Ben Stokes back in ?

know all 23 Jun 26 16:30 
Back Ghana more draw small win,then cash out when you hit a profit, 0r they go 1 up, then back England at a decent price, if you know you know

what if England score 1st?

7/4 was  massive

If England score first, his cash out will be 10p and 2p!

105% profit half time , played well Ghana,  England not good at all so far, but it’s harder to predict from now on, but the odds at start were false getting more the true odds now, as I said if you know you know

Bookies don't make a book based on subjectivity.
Engerland's record against african sides suggest they deserved to be odds on.
Ghana have parked the bus accordingly.
Tuchel will switch things up.

smartpunter cluelesspunter.

Average Sh1te got no chance against France, Spain, Portugal, or the Argies

Tuchel making the substitutions as late as possible, saving some of the better and creative players on the bench for later in the tournament

Meep,Meep

I rarely watch it and din't last the whole game. In the post
match interview Kane sounded like a gangsta innit.

0 - 0…..

Don’t try and hide it was dreadful tbh.

A few hapless headless chickens running around…..big bell…..ingham ain’t world class,passed a few into no man’s land…..should be running and cutting defence …..

Just to add Scotland are heading home after tonight’s game……virtually impossible to get out result here.

"Average Sh1te got no chance against France, Spain, Portugal, or the Argies"    Post your large lay when we play 'em.

Was poor on the night can't sugar coat it. A fit Saka now looking vital to our chances. And maybe Rogers.

I think Scotland are coming home too. A respectable score would be a 3-0 win for Brazil.

at 7/1 cud be daves biggest lay ever...no lay alluded to yet like.

Aceform doesn't watch P/L football but is an expert

and he has something in common with Steve Clarke

Any side is entitled to struggle against low blocks, it's the hardest thing to break through in the game, if Spain and Portugal with their superior technical players can't break down the might of Cape Verde and Congo, we are every bit entitled to struggle against Ghana.

The trouble is we are a team of runners. With no creatives.

The manager is at fault, he played Anderson 5 yards off of centre halves who can themselves carry the ball forwards.

He had no need to play him knowing that they’d be that defensive.

He’s left a player here who can hit the passes that he wants (the early ball) in Warthon of Palace.

Also a player in Palmer who can create from nothing, be it a dummy to create space or from having a shot creating something from the keeper not catching.

The only player who’s looked like he has an edge is Sakka.

It’s the same old where is Kane to feed it too up top and last night we saw the hands in the air and egos surfacing.

Too many on the pitch pointing where the ball should go instead of playing it and moving.

Anderson is over rated in the extreme, not his fault, Gordon has the look of a sulker who believes he’s better than he is  which is is a one trick pony, totally predictable and why he was marked out of it.

Bellingham wouldn’t be anywhere near my team, he gave the goal away trying to get a foul in the first game. That was almost replicated by EZE last night trying to get a foul when they broke and shoulda had a penalty. He’s a liability.

Not a lot to be positive about.

Well Spence has surprised me a lot and he’d be in to overlap with Sakka.

We miss Shaw on the left and slab at set pieces.

But who wants goals from them!

plenty of good stuff there dela  but although I am a big fan of Palmer he's been rubbish for months. Gordon and Mandueke not good enough. The latter looks like he can only shoot by sidefooting the ball.  Disagree with Jude apart from Rice our best player.  But he needs better to play with.  Saka and Rogers must play big parts.

You could substitute Palmer for another player out there last night and the result would have been the same, we lack technical excellence, we still haven't seen the like of Gascoigne in this country from 35 years ago, for all of Palmer's nice stuff, it would be primarily seen in an open game with "space" around him or when he can counter attack like the PSG game.

You're not allowed to take people on and beat them anymore unless it's down the flanks so you are reliant on quick passing and moving, receiving the ball and popping it off whilst under pressure, which unless you are Spain circa 2010, the greatest technical national team to ever play the game, then you are up against it, particularly in you are English.

Again, if Spain can struggle against Cape Verde, we are fully entitled too also.

You’re focusing on one player, we don’t have a natural left sided player playing, that down to the manager.

Bellingham wants to be everywhere, Kane is never there and the likes of Palmer gives you something that the others apart from Sakka don’t have.

The ability to make something happen.

Anderson was playing like Rice when Arsenal want to defend, right in front of his centre halves!  Against a team that’s parked the bus!

Jordan is on there talking of Manduke on the left, that’s not his position.

Yet another tournament playing players out of position.

You're not allowed to take people on and beat them anymore unless it's down the flanks

That’s old school England style as heard in the John Barnes rap, “Gotta get by them, down the line and around the back….”

It’s ancient!

Palmer allows you someone who can attack down the middle, I can’t see anyone in the squad who can play in those tight spaces.

Again it’s not about one player, the buck stops with the manager and his selections.

Even his subs are like for like, one runner for another.

great to see dellawoffle is also a post event football expert..

I would give Rogers a start maybe in place of Kane. There's so many subs these days if he's no good bring Harry on.

Dela, you're talking about Palmer as if he's Xavi or Iniesta, he's not, he's another very decent player who can do something clever when he's afforded room to play, you can also throw in the fact that he's carrying an injury who's struggled all season in a struggling side which is probably foremost in the manager's mind for leaving him behind.

I’m not comparing him to the Spaniards, I’m saying what’s fact there’s no one there with his ability but again it’s not about one player.

Sakka is there carrying an injury, Saliba is playing with one, Rice has had one. I don’t buy the he’s injured but think it’s more an attitude thing with him.

What you don’t see is that Palmer doesn’t need the room to play, that’s my point, he can turn someone the same way that Sakka can like they are a London taxi cab.

That’s rare.

I don’t see what Bellingham adds or what his position even is?

We left players who were playing and took others like Stones who haven’t been, or Toney who’s been in a crud league.

Burn is there when Slab isn’t!

All those who dogged Arsenal for the way they play would love one of their specials in this tournament I’m sure.

None of these teams scare me, Spain, France, Brazil.

I’d love to know what Southgate makes of it because it’s a step back for me.

Tommy Tucs even said in his post match interview that he has ideas to go down the middle.

But get this, he said that he was reticent last night!

My we are in a knock out comp and the manager admits that!!

I agree with some of the selections, Stones is crazy, Sakha carrying a dodgy achilles of all things, Spence because he's fast runner!!

Argentina are the best team so far, they can pass it through the lines and all look comfortable in possession, France have individuals who can break a game apart, Brazil's midfield is an accident waiting to happen, and it will happen, and Spain have shown that they too struggle against a stubborn lesser side who can defend.

Spence has done himself no harm though, has a total lack of experience and when he galloped with Sakka down the right he looked something fresh.
Sakka was terrible this year for Arsenal.

That’s a fair summary on the opposition from what we’ve seen Duffy.

O’Rielly is great going forwards but he can’t defend.

I’ll probably hit the sack and not wait up for the next match!

Duffy, I would put France 1st, then Spain,  then Argentina...on what I've seen so far
Perhaps a dead heat for second
I just think France have got top players in every department, plus Mbappe on top
Spain have got 7/8 top class starters,ditto the Argies
We have perhaps 3/4

Mbappe is over rated, Walker took care of him everytime.

Luca Digna at left back is part of no great team.

Yep fair enough on that summary, France can blow a game apart in an instant and what separates them, I suppose from the rest.

The Argies managed to handle it four years ago though...who knows

Dela, Mbappe overrated?
Respect your opinion but if he was English are you saying you wouldn't pick him?

Agree, Duffy, plus it's knockout, if it was a 38 match league I would expect France to come out on top...but it's not

Oh course he’d be in the team, over rated yes Reg because of the press it happens all the time.

Last time had our eye on him and took our eye off the man, Greezeman.

In the Champions league final Dembelle was useless, they aren’t the force that they’d like us to think that they are.

Dela, I know what you're saying
I can't think of many English players that France would start, including Kane,instead of what they've already got

I’d have a fit Sakka over Dembelle any day.

Shaw is a better left back than Digne.

Gahaie is as good as Saliba.

Rice goes in anyteam.

There’s a few, it’s a shame we can’t field our best team and believe that we’re not below them all.

Ghaaana celebrated a draw as if they'd won the Julie Rimmer.
Prime position to win the group and move on from there.
France didn't capitulate following their humiliating draw against Cappo verdi.
It's a marathon, if not a snickers this one and you do what it takes to get where you want to be.
Two games in, top of the group and already there's a post_mortem ffs

When the manager admits to being reticent to try or gamble  - The writing is in the wall.

It doesn’t match what he told them to do in the last match.

Betfair couch potatoes sending off their Cvs to HR setting out their credentials having watched England secure top spot in the group after 2 games.
PMSL

Top spot aint secured just yet.

Tbh England are a million imv….

Delashay 24 Jun 26 18:12 
Mbappe is over rated

fro ysdc..now we nah you're an aftertiming expert but to say mbappe is overated is borderline sectioning.

Like saying Lester Piggott was a lucky rider…

Was in Walkers pocket everytime we played them, so that makes him one of the greatest right backs ever by your logic!

Well G Neville who looked like Mr Potatoman just now in his black spectacles was just talking about how the debate about not taking Cole Palmer will come up if England don’t start to create!

Also added to that Gibbs - White but said less so than Cole, who can create and , “make things happen…”

The first and second games are oil and water, Croatia were happy to have a tear up which suited us, Ghana weren't, you can't insist on them to play open football so we can have more space.

There is absolutely nothing whatsoever England could have done to force a replication of game one.

Again, if the technical excellence of Spain can struggle against a low block, so can we.

If and when we go out it will be against a team that affords us all the space in the world, so we don't need to worry on that score, if we think an EPL game is what we need, we'll get the chance to prove it.

If I’d paid for any ticket fir a match that Henderson plays any part in, I’d be asking for a refund!