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we all no souey rode the race he wanted to ride that's swhy he got 8 days for coming off the rail to let his better fanciied stablemate through on inside,we've all seen him  look round to make sure it was Ryan behind him,that's why he got 8 days,no amount of brown nosing in the car park changes that and unlike soppy Chappers the stewards didn't believe a word of it
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Report differentdrum June 20, 2026 10:08 AM BST
His first priority is to those in the game. Always will be. I thought for a moment he must have been talking about himself.
Report Cider June 20, 2026 10:21 AM BST
sm is a platform for ranting, so there will be ranting that is justifiable, and ranting that isn't. obviously when betting is involved, 99% of people don't blame themselves for losing.

in the example they were talking about, although the itv 'experts' completely ignored it, the team tactics were self evident. ergo, in this instance, anyone on twatter ranting about it was in the right space that time. yesterday's alleged example in the Coronation was not.
Report sageform June 20, 2026 10:25 AM BST
Richard Hannon summed him up while talking to Hayley Moore on ATR. Richard winced and looked round saying "noisy bloke that Chapman" I doubt whether any trainers or riders would invite him to dinner-or even for a drink.
Report GLASGOWCALLING June 20, 2026 10:28 AM BST
.... I think they fear the pertinent questions that they know he will ask ( unlike most )
Report Cider June 20, 2026 10:30 AM BST
he's shrewd enough, he figured out the best MO was to be as controversial as possible, and get people talking about what you say. in effect he is a human version of clickbait. he embedded a lot of historical knowledge in his head, so when he talks to connection he can bring up their previous triumphs. which probably massages their ego somewhat. though I'm not sure Dunlop was chuffed about bring up the great Ouija Board. With that strategy you do risk reminding trainers that their best days are in the rear view mirror.
Report Cider June 20, 2026 10:32 AM BST
he also figured out how to lend himself money and not have to pay it back Mischief
Report MJK June 20, 2026 10:35 AM BST
If Chapman wants to ask a question he should just ask instead of making a two minute statement beforehand to let everyone see how clever he is (or isnt). Moore wins a G1 and as soon as Chapman approaches his demeanor is of someone who's just got beat on the line. And Moore's not the only one.
Report GLASGOWCALLING June 20, 2026 10:43 AM BST
Moore hardly a good example, when is he not miserable. ? He clearly dislikes Matt, unfortunately I am guessing he is contracted to speak to ITV.
Report 1st time poster June 20, 2026 10:49 AM BST
wasn't as bad a ouey ride,but when your 4 to 6,11 to 4, THE TEAM and 10, bar,just because you've kept your racing line doesn't mean you arnt pushing the team tactic envelope,besides the other runners no one who backed TRUE LOVE can think he was ridden to the FAV yesterday
Report Delashay June 20, 2026 10:53 AM BST
He asked why Lake Forrest is so short, the Jubilee is priced around last years race without Lazzat. He hasn’t looked and seen that Lake Forrest beat Lazzat down under.

He also didn’t notice that Oracle who was second to Goliath was well beat the time before by Best Secret.
Report 1st time poster June 20, 2026 10:55 AM BST
gleeson basically telling you it was THE LADS who had the 300,000 bet,  if short price  favs are your thing  who wouldn't have had their biggest bet of the meeting if you new the 2nd fav wasn't going to have the kitchen sink thrown at it to beat you
Report Delashay June 20, 2026 10:59 AM BST
new the 2nd fav wasn't going to have the kitchen sink thrown at it

And be ridden 5 wide on the bend holding in another rival.
Report Cider June 20, 2026 11:05 AM BST
True Love was ridden within the rules. Yes he tried to keep a rival boxed in, they are permitted to do that. They aren't permitted to manufacture a gap for a stablemate.
Report Tiger Tiger June 20, 2026 11:11 AM BST
Well said CHAPPERS.
Report Delashay June 20, 2026 11:15 AM BST
It wasn’t ridden to obtain the best finish possible. So wasn’t within the rules.

They said after the Curragh that she was outstayed, going five wide will get a non stayer beat at Ascot.

No pocket talk, no bet in the race but it was another G1 winner sacrificed.
Report Delashay June 20, 2026 11:17 AM BST
Oh and they manufacture gaps with pacemakers at Chester year in year out.
Report Tiger Tiger June 20, 2026 11:26 AM BST
So what? Isnt it up to the other jockeys to sort themselves out and compete.
Report ALIEN SEX FIEND June 20, 2026 11:31 AM BST

Jun 20, 2026 -- 11:26AM, Tiger Tiger wrote:


So what? Isnt it up to the other jockeys to sort themselves out and compete.


People need to remember the greats like Lester & Pat. Todays jockeys would not know what hit them. Some jockeys are getting like the footballers who dive for a penalty, blatant, yet scream murder when they do not get it.

Report uptheirons June 20, 2026 11:41 AM BST
Delbert,the 50 yo with the mind of an 11 yo.
A pitiful loon
Report Delashay June 20, 2026 11:42 AM BST
So what? Isnt it up to the other jockeys to sort themselves out and compete.

You’d think that they would but having seen Ruby Walsh bag the rail race after race, year after year at Chelts I can say no they don’t. There’s a pecking order.

First and foremost you’ve got to have the horse in order to be able to compete.

That’s what’s really lacking in the sport.
Report Delashay June 20, 2026 11:45 AM BST
Any neutral that over hears the racing on the TV says, “not him again.”

It’s actually becoming slightly boring as is the way that other jocks fold over for them to let them have their own way.
Report Cider June 20, 2026 11:49 AM BST
It wasn’t ridden to obtain the best finish possible. So wasn’t within the rules.

It's nonsense, alas. If he had managed to lock the runner up in, he would have finished 2nd.

You are adding 2+2 and coming up with 5. Sure, maybe if he was upsides the winner he may or may not have then gone all out. The authorities however can only officiate on what's in front of them, not hearsay or speculation. There was nothing wrong with how True Love was ridden.
Report Tiger Tiger June 20, 2026 11:49 AM BST
Delashay, are you really saying that jockeys allow 'superstar' jockey a free ride?
Report Delashay June 20, 2026 11:56 AM BST
Of course they do, think a joker like Sam Twiston is going to challenge the likes of Ruby for the rail?

For me Cider the horse wasn’t ridden on its own merits. I’m aware you can hold your ground. It was clearly team tactics.

Blake tipped Al Riffa the doubtful stayer, said it’d be held up, she was a doubtful stayer of the mile at Ascot and went 5 wide, two different approaches.

Haggas said after the Ribbledale that some old time jock forget who now, “have to stick to the rail at Ascot.”
Report Cider June 20, 2026 11:57 AM BST
There is obviously a deference, Tiger Tiger. This happens in practically every profession/walk of life. Successful people have what one might call an aura of authority.
Report uptheirons June 20, 2026 12:00 PM BST
Anything that exists in the loony mind of Delbert becomes a fact to him.
It's part of his condition
Laugh
Report Delashay June 20, 2026 12:00 PM BST
It’s a sport where no one likes to step on anyone’s toes, for fear of being frozen out, that aura of authority is not wanting to upset those at the top whilst you’re trying to climb your way up.

It’s why they always say Mr so and so thank you for the ride etc etc, it’s all very submissive, goes beyond being humble.

Yes men I think is the term.
Report Tiger Tiger June 20, 2026 12:06 PM BST
There is NO pro jockey who would voluntarily give way to another jockey whilst he was still in with his own chance, its their living.
Report Cider June 20, 2026 12:09 PM BST
That has definitely happened with AOB jockeys, not yesterday though.
Report Cider June 20, 2026 12:14 PM BST
I still remember Bondi Beach's debut. Joseph was on the intended winner and Heff was in an easy lead on another of their runners out for training. It was laughable as Heff waited for Joseph on the fav, but he fell in anyway Happy
Report Delashay June 20, 2026 12:19 PM BST
People are all different Tiger, some happy just to collect their fee I’m sure. Those with ambition go abroad if it’s not working here. Others are happy to clock in and clock out.

Not everyone is like the character Butch the Boxer in Pulp Fiction and will take a dive for the right price. But we’ve seen many that will.
Report Delashay June 20, 2026 12:22 PM BST
It goes back to having the horse, think Billy would have fought for that gap had he been on a 50/1 short?
Report sageform June 20, 2026 12:37 PM BST
If you were told that you would get a Group 1 winner from Coolmore if you obeyed instructions at all times, you might well be patient and wait your turn. No less than 9 jockeys have ridden Aiden O'Brien trained Derby winners. Who else would have booked Beggy or Mcnamara?
Report Frogger June 20, 2026 1:12 PM BST
When working for a powerhouse there can still be ambition in just collecting your fee on a given day
Report Mr Spock June 20, 2026 2:04 PM BST
Cider, Heffernen just been suspended for a non trier hasnt he?
Report 1st time poster June 20, 2026 2:14 PM BST
keeping your racing line holding one one in I within the rules tregerd you getting your bet position ,Is it an abuse of the rules to do it in favour of a batter fancied stablemate,even if you think that didn't happen yesterday, if your wider in to the traight and never fully upsides the one your trying to hold in is that ok
Report 1st time poster June 20, 2026 2:18 PM BST
you saw within 30 sEC of Blake saying no riding rules were broken regards other horses /jocks in the race,Chappers jump in and use the same argument to try and defend souey,s ride on Puerto rico
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