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Report swiftynifty June 9, 2026 1:49 PM BST
V BOT V BOT V BOT V BOT. Peers all gone.
Report brassneck June 9, 2026 1:53 PM BST
Left hand bot has home advantage and likes the goingWink
Report Brian June 9, 2026 2:43 PM BST
I blame the Labour Government (Peers all gone)
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 9, 2026 2:46 PM BST
bf name change next mth..Skam Fare.
Report jamee1 June 9, 2026 2:50 PM BST
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Who-Moved-My-Cheese-Amazing/dp/0091816971
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Report RoyalAcademy June 9, 2026 3:48 PM BST
Hi Brassneck, for the uninitiated would you explain what did you see going on? If I had  say, £200 to back or lay what's the consequence?
Report brassneck June 9, 2026 3:53 PM BST
The new Bot has a mind of its own,nobody can stop it,it charges its own energy and works 24x7,keeping all its profits for its self.Grin
Report uptheirons June 9, 2026 4:00 PM BST
I believe that Brassdick did once post a serious thread but I never saw it
Report brassneck June 9, 2026 4:01 PM BST
SPAINGrinGrinGrinGrinGrin
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 9, 2026 4:22 PM BST
eye kon kerr wiv brassy.
Report Sid-Saggysack June 9, 2026 5:00 PM BST
im sure i just seen £3 in one of the back boxes 3f out,anyone else see it?
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 9, 2026 5:12 PM BST
yes..i seen £4 in a lay box,i clicked to lay it and got 7p returned.
Report uptheirons June 9, 2026 5:29 PM BST
All this is hardly new though.
I got 1P matched the other daySad
Report hulk23 June 9, 2026 5:34 PM BST
Thats cos you put your whole bank on ^^
Report uptheirons June 9, 2026 5:36 PM BST
As you have yet to post a bet Hulk despite your lunatic £108 claims it is best that you STFU
Report hulk23 June 9, 2026 5:46 PM BST



Lunatic ^^
Report hulk23 June 9, 2026 5:48 PM BST
Only lunatic is anyone that believes thats random and those bets aren't placed by the house bot.

ie you.
Report hulk23 June 9, 2026 5:49 PM BST
5th row down.  Middle blue.

Ring any bells ??
Report hulk23 June 9, 2026 5:50 PM BST
Quite a coincidence.

Huh ???
Report uptheirons June 9, 2026 5:50 PM BST
Amazing that nobody else has noticed thisLaugh
Still,as you claim to move Markets at Cheltenham,anything is possible in your mind
Report hulk23 June 9, 2026 6:19 PM BST
Just because nobody else has spotted it doesn't mean it isnt happening.

I have a similar picture from the Austrian Friendly football match.  Over 4.5 goals.

And the £108 punter just happened to be playing match odds and both teams to score in the most obscure Guinea vs Northern Ireland friendly match.

Of course he was ExcitedCoolCool

So who is he ?  Who owns those £108 bets shown in the image ?
Report uptheirons June 9, 2026 6:21 PM BST
I would not dream of having a debate with my neighbours dog and as he is saner than you I will leave you to itLaugh
Report hulk23 June 9, 2026 6:24 PM BST
same persons placing hundreds of £108 bets on horseracing every day.  And those bets move the markets, not me, them. 
i just notice them.
Report hulk23 June 9, 2026 6:26 PM BST
you appear to be happy trusting someone who would close your account cos you had £5 on at 5/2 and it returned 9/4.

good luck with that.
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 9, 2026 9:20 PM BST
Bottfare got the game by the goolies.
Report brassneck June 9, 2026 10:27 PM BST
i am confused.Confused
i  dont understand.
i can not think of a reason why one of the largest betting companies IN THE WORLD are shooting themselves in the foot,but they are doing it IMVHO.Its sad.SadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSadSad
Report brassneck June 9, 2026 10:29 PM BST
And we all know the end to the story.Sad
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 9, 2026 10:49 PM BST
in running without their quids in ev box there'd be no in running.
Report Celtic warrior June 10, 2026 2:22 PM BST
Can someone explain what is going on. Seeding random prices for £108 would soon bankrupt a normal punter. Good back or lay prices would just be picked off.

Is this actually betfair seeding markets to encourage more in running punting. Is this what people are saying. If so, thats fine and benefits in running punters.
Report uptheirons June 10, 2026 2:28 PM BST
Celtic,Hulk is a conspiracy theorist loon
Report Celtic warrior June 10, 2026 2:29 PM BST
I would guess given the speeds matching these days that most are indeed bots programmed off TPD datasteams. So swifty i think you are spot on here. TPD steams are very low latency so in fact make perfect sense. Just a battle of programming skills. I.e which edge formula actually works. AI perfect for this job.
Report hulk23 June 10, 2026 2:41 PM BST
still not answered who owns them Irons.  Everyones limited to £500 a month, but someones sitting there chucking £108 on everything, Guinea v NI match odds both teams to score, 2 unknown Austrian football teams over 5.5 goals, every horse race (including Australia overnight), the lot. 

if it moves, he's having £108 on it.
Report hulk23 June 10, 2026 2:46 PM BST
or explained the chances of someone wanting to bet £108 on 2 lines in the above market. 

and someone laying £108 on another line.

the odds against that randomly happening must be astronomical.  but i'm the conspiracy theorist ?
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 10, 2026 2:58 PM BST
there are plenty prices that soley belong to paddi bot..108...700 on lay side for £2..£29 @1000 to bet the 2nd when its barely a 1000 chance..and loads of other amounts in front of ewe if you have the audacity to try and trade something..all just automated skam ming nonsense.
Report uptheirons June 10, 2026 3:07 PM BST
Nobody is debating about BF Seeding their Markets
Report hulk23 June 10, 2026 3:14 PM BST
seeding refers to the process of placing initial Back or Lay bets to establish baseline odds and build liquidity in a new or inactive market.

that's fine.  but he's sticking money up to stop other users getting matched.  which then drives the market in a certain direction. 

that's not seeding, that's naughty.
Report hulk23 June 10, 2026 3:15 PM BST
in active markets
Report hulk23 June 10, 2026 3:17 PM BST
i'm seeing £108 bets jump in front of me as the horses are going in the stalls. 

telling me that seeding a new or inactive market ??
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 10, 2026 3:26 PM BST
there is nothing in the boxes IR..quids that morph into pences if you try and lay..if ewe want to win more than £5.76 then play before 3f out and click for tenners..theres nothing to win last 2f...paddi either sez no cant have that if backing or laying ewe get pences every price until ewe hit your overide..they now have a very precise and very efficient cistern...

happi daze.
Report uptheirons June 10, 2026 3:28 PM BST
Unless BF smell a possible Stewards and happy to Lay 1.01
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 10, 2026 3:29 PM BST
there is nothing in the boxes IR..quids that morph into pences if you try and lay..if ewe want to win more than £5.76 then play before 3f out and click for tenners..theres nothing to win last 2f...paddi either sez no cant have that if backing or laying ewe get pences every price until ewe hit your overide..they now have a very precise and very efficient cistern...

happi daze.
Report hulk23 June 10, 2026 3:30 PM BST
and keep in mind, his remit is to run the site, bring bettors and layors together (not him).  take his commission, happy daze.
instead of that he's morphed into the biggest player on here by a country mile.  got limitless information on other players, all bets etc that nobody else has access to. 

not really what they had in mind when they said ok, you can run the place.
Report Angela Rebecchi June 10, 2026 3:37 PM BST
They jump in front of a quite a few of us in other markets too. A bot giving their bets priority over the user. Very naughty indeed. Desperate to squeeze every cent they can out of their own site. Worse than a bookie in reality, though at least they let you bet unlike bookies.
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 10, 2026 3:40 PM BST
korr wrecked ulk..but its 2026 and tecknollogee has taken over the game..tecknollogee that way ahead of human eyes..hey,im not complaining as it is what it is..there int no gun to my head (not this time) and its my choice..i once was way ahead of the masses and i get that..but this planet is dog eat dog..but it sertinlee aint 'BetFAIR   ennimore.
Report uptheirons June 10, 2026 3:40 PM BST
Its the only I/R game in Town
Report hulk23 June 10, 2026 3:42 PM BST
until they play the responsible gambling card and limit you to peanuts unless you can produce a photo of Vladimir Putin and Mother Teresa holding your last 3 months bank statements
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 10, 2026 3:48 PM BST
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 10, 2026 3:50 PM BST
Matched bets
Order by matched date
Lay (Bet Against)
Backer's odds
Backer's stake
Payout
Liability
Elvetham
990
£0.15
£148.35
Elvetham
1,000
£0.20
£199.80
Kyoto
400
£0.02
£7.98
Kyoto
490
£0.03
£14.67
Kyoto
500
£0.01
£4.99
Kyoto
540
£0.11
£59.29
Kyoto
600
£0.01
£5.99
Kyoto
690
£0.03
£20.67
Kyoto
700
£0.01
£6.99
Kyoto
780
£0.04
£31.16
Kyoto
800
£0.04
£31.96
Kyoto
900
£0.03
£26.97
Kyoto
950
£0.01
£9.49
Mart
700
£0.08
£55.92
Mart
1,000
£0.26
£259.74
Alafdhal
180
£0.24
£42.96
Alafdhal
190
£2.41
£455.49
Alafdhal
240
£0.01
£2.39
Alafdhal
270
£0.10
£26.90
Alafdhal
300
£0.01
£2.99
Alafdhal
320
£0.06
£19.14
Alafdhal
330
£0.04
£13.16
Alafdhal
380
£0.01
£3.79
Alafdhal
390
£0.01
£3.89
Alafdhal
400
£0.03
£11.97
Alafdhal
500
£0.01
£4.99
Alafdhal
540
£0.11
£59.29
Alafdhal
600
£0.01
£5.99
Alafdhal
690
£0.01
£6.89
Alafdhal
700
£0.01
£6.99
Alafdhal
800
£0.01
£7.99
Alafdhal
950
£0.01
£9.49
Alafdhal
970
£0.01
£9.69
Alafdhal
1,000
£0.04
£39.96

Laugh
Report hulk23 June 10, 2026 3:56 PM BST
A bot giving their bets priority over the user. Very naughty indeed

easy way to do that is to assign your 2.74 back 2.74000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001

makes absolutely no difference to your return, but means you're right at the back of the 2.74 queue. 

guess who's up front ?
Report hulk23 June 10, 2026 3:57 PM BST
he's in at 2.739999999999

round it up to 2.74
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 10, 2026 4:05 PM BST
tis quite simple..ewe give value or you get pennies.
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 10, 2026 4:10 PM BST
oh and btw..90% of the figures in the history graphs are just pie in the sky.
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 10, 2026 4:47 PM BST
Matched bets
Order by matched date
Lay (Bet Against)
Backer's odds
Backer's stake
Payout
Liability
Wolfpack
400
£0.03
£11.97
Wolfpack
500
£0.01
£4.99
Wolfpack
540
£0.10
£53.90
Wolfpack
600
£0.01
£5.99
Wolfpack
700
£0.01
£6.99
Wolfpack
800
£0.01
£7.99
Wolfpack
950
£0.04
£37.96
Wolfpack
1,000
£0.03
£29.97
Taj Crown
160
£0.02
£3.18
Taj Crown
200
£0.11
£21.89
Taj Crown
300
£0.02
£5.98
Taj Crown
330
£0.24
£78.96
Taj Crown
390
£0.01
£3.89
Taj Crown
400
£0.05
£19.95
Taj Crown
500
£0.01
£4.99
Taj Crown
540
£0.10
£53.90
Taj Crown
600
£0.01
£5.99
Taj Crown
700
£0.01
£6.99
Taj Crown
730
£0.02
£14.58
Taj Crown
790
£0.14
£110.46
Taj Crown
800
£0.01
£7.99
Taj Crown
950
£0.04
£37.96
Taj Crown
1,000
£0.08
£79.92

tuff wen no drone Laugh
Report Celtic warrior June 10, 2026 5:59 PM BST
Reality is bet before the off..simple as that
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 10, 2026 6:03 PM BST
im not a guesser.
Report Sid-Saggysack June 11, 2026 2:50 PM BST
4            £6.80       
4.2            £0.86       
4.3            £21.62       
4.4            £0.86       
4.6            £0.86       
4.8            £0.86       
4.9            £4.44       
5            £22.88       
5.1            £15.32       
5.2            £4.72       
5.3            £2.00       
5.4            £43.50       
5.6            £0.86       
5.8            £15.50       
6            £11.06       
6.2            £4.32       
6.4            £3.00       
6.6            £0.92       
6.8            £0.86       
7            £65.72       
7.2            £32.07       
7.4            £47.66       
7.6            £3.50       
7.8            £16.38       
8            £13.42       
8.2            £1.02       
8.4            £2.86       
8.6            £9.50       
8.8            £39.02       
9            £37.53       
9.2            £0.92       
9.4            £0.92       
9.6            £0.86       
9.8            £4.32       
10            £45.62       
11            £26.06       
11.5            £95.09       
12            £9.29       
12.5            £3.88       
13            £7.18       
13.5            £14.50       
14            £10.02       
15            £14.08       
15.5            £3.12       
16            £10.74       
16.5            £13.02       
17            £0.86       
17.5            £6.40       
18            £0.86       
19            £2.86       
19.5            £6.50       
20            £35.23       
21            £11.81       
22            £15.23       
23            £17.18       
24            £5.33       
25            £22.78       
27            £6.58       
28            £10.44       
29            £1.36       
30            £9.20       
32            £30.70       
34            £31.42       
36            £1.16       
38            £2.32       
39.61            £1.76       
40            £10.05       
41.5            £2.24       
42            £7.70       
44            £1.10       
46            £17.04       
48            £14.39       
50            £2.44       
55            £9.98       
60            £4.18       
65            £2.58       
70            £2.44       
75            £7.30       
80            £17.50       
85            £0.10

George Wickham 150 pre..makes a bit headway well beaten 2nd and look what the poor overide backers got Surprised
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 12, 2026 10:04 AM BST
hits finnish,kapoot,sid.
Report slickster June 12, 2026 10:22 AM BST
Why are you talking to yourself in the 3rd person frico soggysocks????
Report Sid-Saggysack June 12, 2026 1:35 PM BST
Report Sid-Saggysack June 12, 2026 1:42 PM BST
Lay (Bet Against)
Backer's odds
Backer's stake
Payout
Liability
Over Spiced
515.5
£0.20
£102.90
Good Earth
528.97
£0.29
£153.11
Rage Of Thunder
828.15
£0.27
£223.33
Lipsink
790
£0.04
£31.56
Total stake:
£0.80

nearly won a quid there...Cool
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 13, 2026 1:48 PM BST
Lay (Bet Against)
Backer's odds
Backer's stake
Payout
Liability
Malangen
2.8
£80.39
£144.70
Malangen
60
£0.05
£2.95
Malangen
70
£0.30
£20.70
Malangen
80
£0.27
£21.33
Malangen
100
£0.21
£20.79
Malangen
130
£0.30
£38.70
Malangen
140
£0.70
£97.30
Malangen
150
£0.07
£10.43
Malangen
200
£0.06
£11.94
Malangen
230
£0.15
£34.35
Malangen
240
£0.10
£23.90
Malangen
250
£0.05
£12.45
Malangen
300
£0.19
£56.81
Malangen
330
£0.04
£13.16
Malangen
340
£0.10
£33.90
Malangen
350
£0.08
£27.92
Malangen
390
£0.01
£3.89
Malangen
400
£0.29
£115.71
Malangen
500
£0.05
£24.95
Malangen
540
£0.10
£53.90
Malangen
600
£0.17
£101.83
Malangen
700
£0.08
£55.92
Malangen
800
£0.03
£23.97
Malangen
900
£0.03
£26.97
Malangen
950
£0.02
£18.98
Malangen
1,000
£1.55
£1,548.45

falls 2 out trading at 7/2..im on it..offer £5 @1000 and thats what skamfair return...abso pmsl.
Report Hugo-Hackenbush June 13, 2026 1:49 PM BST
Lay (Bet Against)
Backer's odds
Backer's stake
Payout
Liability
Malangen
60
£0.05
£2.95
Malangen
70
£0.30
£20.70
Malangen
80
£0.27
£21.33
Malangen
100
£0.21
£20.79
Malangen
130
£0.30
£38.70
Malangen
140
£0.70
£97.30
Malangen
150
£0.07
£10.43
Malangen
200
£0.06
£11.94
Malangen
230
£0.15
£34.35
Malangen
240
£0.10
£23.90
Malangen
250
£0.05
£12.45
Malangen
300
£0.19
£56.81
Malangen
330
£0.04
£13.16
Malangen
340
£0.10
£33.90
Malangen
350
£0.08
£27.92
Malangen
390
£0.01
£3.89
Malangen
400
£0.29
£115.71
Malangen
500
£0.05
£24.95
Malangen
540
£0.10
£53.90
Malangen
600
£0.17
£101.83
Malangen
700
£0.08
£55.92
Malangen
800
£0.03
£23.97
Malangen
900
£0.03
£26.97
Malangen
950
£0.02
£18.98
Malangen
1,000
£1.55
£1,548.45

falls 2 out trading at 7/2..im on it..offer £5 @1000 and thats what skamfair return...abso pmsl.
Report Sid-Saggysack June 13, 2026 1:50 PM BST
simply criminal hugo...ring the feds.
Report slickster June 13, 2026 1:51 PM BST
Ring the shrink more like.
Report Sid-Saggysack June 13, 2026 1:58 PM BST
wont that make it smaller?
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