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maysoon3
29 May 26 16:35
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how would he have done if he hadn’t inherited all the coolmore breeding ? has he never won a race with a horse that’s not an absolute blue-blood? When’s the last time he managed to get one of those blue-bloods through a season unbeaten ?

after banging on about Albert Einstein he’s now onto this derby favourite comparing to galileo

absolute slaver
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Report impossible123 May 29, 2026 4:39 PM BST
And, Pierre. He's improved a lot. He's a different horse since Leopardstown.
Report uptheirons May 29, 2026 4:45 PM BST
Still posters fail to accept that Coolmore are a Breeding Operation.
A bit of bullshat will always be there
Report maysoon3 May 29, 2026 4:48 PM BST
if everyone knows it’s bs (which it is) why say it
Report uptheirons May 29, 2026 4:50 PM BST
Stallion Promotion perhapsLaugh
Report maysoon3 May 29, 2026 4:54 PM BST
yep stallion promotion only works if people think oh my god this thing is quicker than Galileo - instead they surely think more bs from aiden O’Brien

Unless you think the ten-bob punters on here can see through it but people in the industry can’t Laugh
Report ThePomp May 29, 2026 4:54 PM BST

May 29, 2026 -- 4:48PM, maysoon3 wrote:


if everyone knows it’s bs (which it is) why say it


Naive

Report Delashay May 29, 2026 5:00 PM BST
I hope it pisses down and that it’s a big for the good mover!
Report Delashay May 29, 2026 5:01 PM BST
Sick of hearing his crud, hope we have lots of rain and a rag turns them over.
Report uptheirons May 29, 2026 5:13 PM BST
Take it with a pinch of salt,Delbert.
I just like to see the best horse win
Report impossible123 May 29, 2026 5:29 PM BST
In other industries if an entity is dominating or too dominant tha industry watchdog will take action to ensure a fairer level-playing field for other participants. However, horseracing is different. The bookies (also dominant) and its gravy-trainers ie horseracing journos and pundits will be batting for them too.
Report uptheirons May 29, 2026 5:32 PM BST
Implausible live on Planet CuckooLaugh
Report Clerkmore May 29, 2026 5:36 PM BST
Did he use the word "obviously" in the interview?
Report FOYLESWAR May 29, 2026 5:38 PM BST
i just like to see the horse ive backed win
Report impossible123 May 29, 2026 5:44 PM BST
Same here. I'd also like to see he talks less gibberish.
Report Delashay May 29, 2026 5:51 PM BST
He gives it large about the best horses taking on each other, like last year about Delacroix vs Ombudsman.

That seems to happen later in the season, early season it’s all fun and games running multiples.

When you’re that dominant you shouldn’t have to run more than one, just bring your Delacroix and let it race.

No smoke, no mirrors.
Report uptheirons May 29, 2026 5:52 PM BST
Oh to live in Delbert's fantasy WorldLaugh
Report Delashay May 29, 2026 5:57 PM BST
Well he’s in a fantasy world or was many times over. Let’s see if River ever runs over a fking mile like he says it has the pace to?

By then Albert might get a mile himself ans the Lion in Winter a mile and a half! Laugh
Report penzance May 29, 2026 6:00 PM BST
He's got a stable full of well bred horses.
Do you think he's going run just the 1 & leave all the others locked up doing nothing?
Report Delashay May 29, 2026 6:00 PM BST
He’s different from the likes of Stoute, he’d take the one horse and go race.

Workforce, Derby and Arc.

He’s not in canisters class and that’s a word he loves!
Report uptheirons May 29, 2026 6:01 PM BST
The non betting loon Delbert wants Coolmoore to tell all.
Grow up you moronLaugh
Report Delashay May 29, 2026 6:04 PM BST
Ok are there not other group races around the world that he could target with these blue bloods?

And actually run them at their own and correct level?

There’s rich races to be won in Germany. No runner in the recent Guineas, don’t think he has one in the upcoming 1000.

Had six entered in the Prix Du Jockey Club but hasn’t ONE entry in the Group 2 PRIX EUGENE ADAM 28th June.

Hhhhmmm
Report penzance May 29, 2026 6:05 PM BST
Trainers of that era never had so many well bred animals.
You are going to run just the 1 if that's all you have.
Report Delashay May 29, 2026 6:05 PM BST
I know that that’s true but you can’t deny he runs too many in races that they can’t actually win on ability alone.
Report Delashay May 29, 2026 6:06 PM BST
Then he doesn’t target races that they could win or place in. Not a great trainer despite the hype.

You grown up with your constant name calling.
Report Delashay May 29, 2026 6:07 PM BST
-n
Report uptheirons May 29, 2026 6:07 PM BST
Delbert has an Autistic condition and sees things only one way,his way.
He is not to be mockedLaughLaughLaugh
Report penzance May 29, 2026 6:11 PM BST
They run their horses.How many rnrs Godolphin got in the Oaks & Derby.
Report Delashay May 29, 2026 6:17 PM BST
Who has AOB Sid was his greatest Derby winner?
Report uptheirons May 29, 2026 6:19 PM BST
Who gives a toss,you Tard?
Report Delashay May 29, 2026 6:19 PM BST
Aidan O'Brien compares Derby favourite and 'incredible mover' Benvenuto Cellini to the legendary Galileo

When you make a statement such as this bring the one. It’s as simple as.
Report uptheirons May 29, 2026 6:25 PM BST
Tard status fully confirmedLaugh
Report impossible123 May 29, 2026 6:33 PM BST
Absolutely ridiculous comment from a top trainer. I'd like to see him swap stable with another in Ireland or one in the UK. Ben's won nothing significant (yet) even if he wins at Epsom next month.

I think Galileo was a better stallion than a racehorse. Dancing Brave, Bering, Slip Anchor, El Gran Senor and High Chaparral were superior.

Btw I do not think Con River would be at Epsom even if an unforeseen event conspires it from taking part in the French Derby this sunday eg refuses to load; falls out of the stall; pulls up after 3f; etc. The probable prevailing softish / soft ground would place a premium on a horse's stamina.
Report penzance May 29, 2026 6:39 PM BST
If the ground's going to be soft,why did they put 20mm of water on this week?
Report Delashay May 29, 2026 6:53 PM BST
Obviously you can’t think about anything but name calling?

Maybe I’m a purist and am aware of the history of the sport?

Races like the 2000 Guineas and the Derby came about by The Duke of York saying to Lord Derby bring your horse to Epsom or Newmarket and we’ll see who is or who has the best horse.

When you make the statement that he has then do just that, put your reputation on just the one.

We know though that they run horses over incorrect trips and at levels that they know from homework that they’re not up to.

I’ll let you ask yourself why that is?!
Report impossible123 May 29, 2026 6:54 PM BST
Have they? The weather forecast for next week is mainly precipitation from wednesday onward.
Report Delashay May 29, 2026 6:56 PM BST
Racing might actually be better and more liked by the public if the above actually happened?

It takes only two prize fighters to make and sell a fight.

Winner takes all.
Report maysoon3 May 29, 2026 6:59 PM BST
has any of his horses lived up to the hype - I can’t remember if he was hyping them back in the days of high chaparral and Galileo

Rip van winkle city of Troy star spangled banner - best we’ve seen / we’ve never seen anything like it / we’ve never seen numbers like it etc etc blah blah - even horses that struggled to win a pattern race like Seville were hyped-up as having a touch of class

serpentine even if his derby win was a fluke he then went on to run a decent 4th in France so wasn’t a complete donkey - his form then completely fell off a cliff and there’s been a few of them - I know “they are not machines†but doesn’t seem to happen as much with other trainers

Imagine he packed away the superlatives and then 3 or 4 years down the line he hyped one of his horses some people might take a blind bit of notice
Report uptheirons May 29, 2026 7:02 PM BST
Gullibles Travels
Report maysoon3 May 29, 2026 7:05 PM BST
best horses he’s had - high chaparral and Galileo imo

Has he had a horse that’s took on all comers and dominated a generation and older horses like sea the stars did - not that I can think of right now - lots of very good horses but not many exceptional that people are talking about decades later

some do make good stallions tho
Report maysoon3 May 29, 2026 7:08 PM BST
give an opinion it might be well off or go down the gutless route and just act like a school kid
Report ASonOfWottonBassett May 29, 2026 10:38 PM BST
He works for a commercial, breeding enterprise. It's his job.
Report JohanntheGoatHurdler May 29, 2026 10:51 PM BST
In the 34 years I've watched racing, the flat horse that impressed me the most was not trained by Aidan O'brien. It was Sea the Stars.
Although his rating was never as high as Frankel's, he managed to win the Guineas, Derby, and Arc de Triomphe in his 3 year old year, alongside 3 other group ones.
More versatile in terms of trip, and I've never seen a horse pull as hard as he did in the Derby, and still win.
He just seemed to love the competitive nature of racing and had an exceptional will to win.
Report ASonOfWottonBassett May 29, 2026 11:10 PM BST
Well said. Masterly handled by John Oxx too.
Report elisjohn May 30, 2026 5:54 AM BST
ill name you an underated horse by the public , which imo was better than sea the stars , won a guineas first time out, then destroyed the derby field , won a king george after winning an eclipse in probably the worst going ever for that race , beating indian skimmer and warning who were very top class horses , Nashwan
Report trumper May 30, 2026 9:06 AM BST
Both el gran senor and dancing brave would have destroyed Nashwan at any distance up to and including 12t
Report Delashay May 30, 2026 10:26 AM BST
Delashay • May 29, 2026 6:56 PM BST
Racing might actually be better and more liked by the public if the above actually happened?

It takes only two prize fighters to make and sell a fight.

Winner takes all.


- - - - - - -

So they’ve got Frank Warren a boxing promoter on talking about the Derby, but no mention of trainers only being allowed to enter one runner.

Up the prize money, let the best horse win.
Report Delashay May 30, 2026 10:30 AM BST
Currently AOB has 10 entered

2 are entered to run tomorrow, they should have been taken out with Montreal at the last decs stage.

We have the same mass entries with Cheltenham.

You’re not going to attract people to racing and encourage them to bet when 3rd strings win not ridden by the stable jockey.
Report impossible123 May 30, 2026 2:24 PM BST
My two very best horses are Dancing Brave and Frankel. The former was terribly unlucky not to win at Epsom. There's only one Frankel and Sir Cecil. A well-suited partnership. He beat a very strong field including Bering (the best in France) and Sharastani (Derby winner) in The Arc.; 3rd best could be Sea The Stars.

I cannot remember an Epsom Derby winner from Coolmore running in The Arc in the same year.
Report Jack_Kray May 30, 2026 3:55 PM BST
AOB has 5 of the 12 left in the Oaks, including Precise, who I cannot see turning up. I'm assuming she's been left in in case anything goes wrong with Amelia beforehand. Even then Precise is out of a sprinter and may well struggle to get 10f let alone 12F, especially if there is some cut in the ground.

Surely the Coronation Stakes 2 weeks later must be her next target? If AOB runs her in the Oaks and Coronation, it would mean three group 1s in 26 days. And why take on Amelia anyway, who will stay the 12F easily?
Report impossible123 May 30, 2026 4:18 PM BST
'billie' has Precise at 2/1f. I think she'll show. She finished strong in the Irish 1000G. She won the Fillies Mile at Newmarket. And, she's class.

I think Legacy Link is no pushover. I believe she's been touted / compared to Enable; Enable (6/1) beat Rhododendron (8/11) who was very strongly fancied by connections at Epsom.
Report maysoon3 May 30, 2026 4:49 PM BST
not sure if hes had many others but high chapparal ran 3rd in the arc the same year he won the derby - he also ‘failed’ in the following years arc after which o’brien said he had a small issue with his shoulder meaning he couldnt run to his best right-handed - to be fair he pretty much won all his other races - great horse - i thought he was a certainty in that second arc

comparing horses from different generations is difficult - im a dancing brave fan like many but a line through trypitch his performances might not be so amazing as while he always comfortably beat tryptich she was never that far away and despite being a top class filly/mare she was well beaten lots of times by other horses eg oh so sharp

el gran senor was an exceptional miler as the horses he beat over a mile or shorter were unbeatble by anyone else - chief singer lear fan rousillon (breeders cup accepted) - rousillon dominating the following years mile division after being a relative also-ran in 1984
Report impossible123 May 30, 2026 4:53 PM BST
I was gobsmacked Coolmore chose (I understand the commercial side) to run City Of Troy post his Derby triumph in America instead of The ARC.
Report brandyontherocks May 30, 2026 7:34 PM BST
Three of his first four winners of the Derby ran in the Arc.

High Chaparal, Camelot and Ruler Of The World.

Since then their targets have definitely changed.
Report smartpunter May 31, 2026 9:21 AM BST
Mayson.right.Would Lester Piggott have won the Epsom Derby 9 times if he wouldn't have been on the  best horse for  " different" trainers. Would Pep  Guardiola have won  all those trophies if he would have been manager of  Burnley.
the answer is, very  very good exceptional on what they  "CAN DO".
Report Frogger May 31, 2026 11:34 AM BST
I enjoy O'Brien - filter it, he only catches me out once in a while
Report smartpunter May 31, 2026 3:57 PM BST
That brilliant man again MaysoonWinkWinkWinkWink
Report maysoon3 May 31, 2026 7:44 PM BST
I never said he doesn’t train a lot of winners in fact quite the opposite

He trains the derby winner nearly every year and wins all the Irish classics and sometimes the French classics too - I never questioned any of that

Grin
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