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24 May 26
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'has she had an off day or maybe beaten by better horses?
jeesuz fckn wept he's being paid to say that..
jeesuz fckn wept he's being paid to say that..
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And if he had added 'at that trip'? She hasn't got any great form at the trip. Add in Moore rode a poor tactical race and Dawson an even worse one. Of course nobody bothers to mention that.
A discredit to Daryz. Maybe a mediocre Arc 2025 as some had suggested.
Well done Almaqam, Shoemark and Walker! A deserved victory rewarded for enterprising.
alaquam was only a pound behind her on official ratings and a year older ,was entitled to be closish .
Not on a track where he's ran 4.2 seconds fast. Must be close to the track record.
Interesting tactics. O'Brien said before the race that Moore wouls sit second or third behind Lordan 'would be ridden forward anyhows'. Maybe Moore felt something not right as she broke well and he restrained her back.
it went short in running and when you would expect it to stay on it stopped like shot..
garys asking was she beaten by better horses
garys asking was she beaten by better horses
Horse racing isn't it. Walker has always claimed that he wants give, the form book backed that up. Then he bolts up on a road.
Breaks well and yanked back. clealry saving her for another day very fishy.
It's not good, the 81 rated winner earlier was only 0.61 slow
81 rated horses don't run inside 1 second of standard on good going. gbiyb
Moore told them after the second race thatvthe ground was the same as yesterday. They're probably going by that. It's been baking hot all day the ground has clearly got quicker.
Interesting enough that the 1000 wasn't much quicker than the handicap.
mostly exposed, lowish rated handicappers coming up over the same distance
I'd say round course defo g/f
home str nearer good judged by sprint times
home str nearer good judged by sprint times
stayed off the rail there, inconsistent watering? would have been against true love obviously
It's obviously a lot better than 72, but she ran 1.45s outside
There were some very quick times yesterday as well. Seems like suffering from same aversion as the UK to declaring accurate going when it's quick.
There were some very quick times yesterday as well. Seems like suffering from same aversion as the UK to declaring accurate going when it's quick.
Cider • May 24, 2026 5:12 PM BST
stayed off the rail there, inconsistent watering? would have been against true love obviously
Someone knows
stayed off the rail there, inconsistent watering? would have been against true love obviously
Someone knows
AOB likes to get group 1 status for as many in his stable as he can get,fairly predictable.
Rule one; Never expect a "Gravy Train" Presenter to question a Coolmore ride.
You will not be disappointed
You will not be disappointed
May 24, 2026 -- 5:51PM, tanglefoot wrote:
AOB likes to get group 1 status for as many in his stable as he can get,fairly predictable.
There's no doubt this is the case re fillies. Colts a different kettle of fish but does it suit them to have 2 classic winning fillies? Yes.
All this talk by AOB about running the best horses in the best races is what horseracing is about. But, Coolmore would not run their best 3 yr old colts eg Derby winners in The Arc eg Auguste Rodin and City Of Troy. Instead in America for commercial purposes.
Getting harder and harder to call these AOB horses.
Be no surprise if Minnie Hulk dots up at Ascot.
Be no surprise if Minnie Hulk dots up at Ascot.
Good luck with that idea.
Aidan doing his best to defend Moore's idiot ride. As usual taking the public for fools.
Aidan doing his best to defend Moore's idiot ride. As usual taking the public for fools.
Why is it this is reported on SL but NO mention in the RP article?!
Minnie Hauk, who Daryz beat a head in the Arc last October, had the chance to follow suit in the Tattersalls Gold Cup at the Curragh on Sunday but was below-par having found to be lame afterwards.
Minnie Hauk, who Daryz beat a head in the Arc last October, had the chance to follow suit in the Tattersalls Gold Cup at the Curragh on Sunday but was below-par having found to be lame afterwards.
'You can put a line completely through it, don't worry about that run at all' - Aidan O'Brien explains Minnie Hauk blowout
Explaining the performance, O'Brien said: "What happened with Minnie Hauk was that they jumped and they went for three furlongs so Ryan [Moore] gave her a chance, which was the right thing to do. But then the pace went out of the race completely and they walked in the middle of the race so, really, he ended up out the back on a mile-and-a-half filly and they were walking, so she had no chance from there."
Just blames the pace as per usual
Always at it these lot!
Explaining the performance, O'Brien said: "What happened with Minnie Hauk was that they jumped and they went for three furlongs so Ryan [Moore] gave her a chance, which was the right thing to do. But then the pace went out of the race completely and they walked in the middle of the race so, really, he ended up out the back on a mile-and-a-half filly and they were walking, so she had no chance from there."
Just blames the pace as per usual
Always at it these lot!
Minnie Hauk is no Enable. I do not think she's as good as Found. Daryz is no Golden Horn either. The ARC field he beat were nondescript.
I think you're being very harsh on the Arc form - the two best horses easily beat an average field but the
form fully adds up as they all ran their races. The next half dozen ran to the pound which to my eye makes
the front pair very decent performers.
Daryz has since been a revelation back in trip and I strongly suspect Minnie Hauk will come good in the Autumn
which is likely connections' game-plan.
For that reason I thought she was terrible value yesterday...odds-on with a proper 10f specialist in Ombudsman
declared?? I think that was a wise move from Gosden NOT to jeopardise his Royal Ascot preparation against far
better opposition at The Curragh than up against much easier grade in the Brigadier Gerard on Thursday.
She's probably on a par with Found at this stage but there's every chance she could match/exceed her level in
time and I'd drawn a line through yesterday's race and maybe also forget about Royal Ascot - she WILL be back.
And as for Daryz...again, he's probably just a pound or two below a peak Golden Horn but he's certainly started
the season in grand style...with the promise of more to come, so I'm puzzled how anyone can be critical of what
looks like a 4yo who's wintered very well...and improved for it!
PS - I heard Graffard recently making comparisons with his other champion...the excellent Calandagan.
Listening between the lines I suspect he figures Daryz might have improved past him after formerly believing last
season that the older gelding had his number at home - it's a brave man who lays Daryz at a price, though fast
ground would be a concern for a colt targeting Royal Ascot - it should be remembered that he bombed out at York.
form fully adds up as they all ran their races. The next half dozen ran to the pound which to my eye makes
the front pair very decent performers.
Daryz has since been a revelation back in trip and I strongly suspect Minnie Hauk will come good in the Autumn
which is likely connections' game-plan.
For that reason I thought she was terrible value yesterday...odds-on with a proper 10f specialist in Ombudsman
declared?? I think that was a wise move from Gosden NOT to jeopardise his Royal Ascot preparation against far
better opposition at The Curragh than up against much easier grade in the Brigadier Gerard on Thursday.
She's probably on a par with Found at this stage but there's every chance she could match/exceed her level in
time and I'd drawn a line through yesterday's race and maybe also forget about Royal Ascot - she WILL be back.
And as for Daryz...again, he's probably just a pound or two below a peak Golden Horn but he's certainly started
the season in grand style...with the promise of more to come, so I'm puzzled how anyone can be critical of what
looks like a 4yo who's wintered very well...and improved for it!
PS - I heard Graffard recently making comparisons with his other champion...the excellent Calandagan.
Listening between the lines I suspect he figures Daryz might have improved past him after formerly believing last
season that the older gelding had his number at home - it's a brave man who lays Daryz at a price, though fast
ground would be a concern for a colt targeting Royal Ascot - it should be remembered that he bombed out at York.
People miss the point, is it bad reporting on the RP behalf or IS KEY INFORMATION being withheld from the public?
It’s easy to fall back on the former excuse and easier still to profit if you have the correct details.
It reminds me of the situation with Jukebox Man and the non reporting of his setback pre Gold Cup run.
It reminds me of the situation with Jukebox Man and the non reporting of his setback pre Gold Cup run.
Can you post the article, Dela, as I can't find it.
Thank you
Thank you
Hi Brandy guess what? I’ve retuned to the article where I posted that comment about being lame and it’s been edited out!!!
https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/minnie-hauk-remains-on-course-for-royal-ascot-despite-curragh-defeat/232303
They now toe the same line as the post! Strange no?
They now toe the same line as the post! Strange no?
Ombudsman is the next star 10f performer on track at Sandown on Thursday in a division brimming with talent
Horse Racing
Mon May 25, 2026 · 17h ago
Ben Linfoot
The three-year-olds are really going to have to go some to infiltrate a strong older horse pool over 10 furlongs this season.
Constitution River looks the clubhouse leader over a mile-and-a-quarter amongst the Classic generation at the moment, but pre-Betfred Derby it’s very early amongst the three-year-olds with plenty of water to flow under the bridge.
Coming out of Royal Ascot that picture will clear up ahead of the Coral-Eclipse where it is with hope at least one of the three-year-olds will rock up at Sandown to take on the older horses.
But before then those older horses need to sort out their own pecking order over the distance and the Prince Of Wales’s Stakes is beginning to look like an unmissable clash on the second day of Royal Ascot.
Favourite at a best of 11/8 is the Francis-Henri Graffard-trained Daryz, the Prix de l’Arc De Triomphe winner developing into a most versatile performer at four after wins in the Prix Ganay (10 furlongs) and Prix Aga Khan IV (nine furlongs) on his first two runs of the campaign.
The son of Sea The Stars looks quicker for another winter under his belt and while the Prince Of Wales’s will be his toughest task over 10 furlongs to date, it’s no wonder the bookies are running for cover.
Minnie Hauk, who Daryz beat a head in the Arc last October, had the chance to follow suit in the Tattersalls Gold Cup at the Curragh on Sunday but was below-par having found to be lame afterwards.
She could bounce back if recovering in time, particularly if she got a strongly-run 10 furlongs with the emphasis on stamina, but it was the Tattersalls Gold Cup winner, Almaqam, who threw his hat into the ring for Prince Of Wales’s glory.
Ed Walker’s horse was threatening to become disappointing for a horse of his ability, but he landed his first Group 1 thanks in part to a proactive Kieran Shoemark ride on good ground that might not be his optimum given he likes a bit of cut in the conditions.
To do it on his seasonal reappearance, as well, was particularly significant as he has seriously come on for his first run the last few years and that puts him right in the mix for the Royal Ascot prize.
https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/ombudsman-is-the-next-star-10f-performer-on-track-at-sandown-on-thursday-in-a-division-brimming-with-talent/232312
It still begs the question WHY isn’t this vital piece of info NOT reported in an article on birth sites that blame the pace for the defeat?
It’s not good enough and certainly easily missed and raises questions about standards as well as other questions.
Horse Racing
Mon May 25, 2026 · 17h ago
Ben Linfoot
The three-year-olds are really going to have to go some to infiltrate a strong older horse pool over 10 furlongs this season.
Constitution River looks the clubhouse leader over a mile-and-a-quarter amongst the Classic generation at the moment, but pre-Betfred Derby it’s very early amongst the three-year-olds with plenty of water to flow under the bridge.
Coming out of Royal Ascot that picture will clear up ahead of the Coral-Eclipse where it is with hope at least one of the three-year-olds will rock up at Sandown to take on the older horses.
But before then those older horses need to sort out their own pecking order over the distance and the Prince Of Wales’s Stakes is beginning to look like an unmissable clash on the second day of Royal Ascot.
Favourite at a best of 11/8 is the Francis-Henri Graffard-trained Daryz, the Prix de l’Arc De Triomphe winner developing into a most versatile performer at four after wins in the Prix Ganay (10 furlongs) and Prix Aga Khan IV (nine furlongs) on his first two runs of the campaign.
The son of Sea The Stars looks quicker for another winter under his belt and while the Prince Of Wales’s will be his toughest task over 10 furlongs to date, it’s no wonder the bookies are running for cover.
Minnie Hauk, who Daryz beat a head in the Arc last October, had the chance to follow suit in the Tattersalls Gold Cup at the Curragh on Sunday but was below-par having found to be lame afterwards.
She could bounce back if recovering in time, particularly if she got a strongly-run 10 furlongs with the emphasis on stamina, but it was the Tattersalls Gold Cup winner, Almaqam, who threw his hat into the ring for Prince Of Wales’s glory.
Ed Walker’s horse was threatening to become disappointing for a horse of his ability, but he landed his first Group 1 thanks in part to a proactive Kieran Shoemark ride on good ground that might not be his optimum given he likes a bit of cut in the conditions.
To do it on his seasonal reappearance, as well, was particularly significant as he has seriously come on for his first run the last few years and that puts him right in the mix for the Royal Ascot prize.
https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/ombudsman-is-the-next-star-10f-performer-on-track-at-sandown-on-thursday-in-a-division-brimming-with-talent/232312
It still begs the question WHY isn’t this vital piece of info NOT reported in an article on birth sites that blame the pace for the defeat?
It’s not good enough and certainly easily missed and raises questions about standards as well as other questions.
https://www.racingpost.com/news/ireland/you-can-put-a-line-completely-through-it-dont-worry-about-that-run-at-all-aidan-obrien-explains-minnie-hauk-blowout-aPy9G8o0gvTI/
No mention from Jennings of lameness!
No mention from Jennings of lameness!
Very odd. As like you say, the two articles I read pointed toward the slow pace for her defeat.
Yes it is and you have to ask will she even show, Field Of Gold was lame in the race at Goodwood not seen for ages after.
Is that why one firm go 16/1 which would look massive.
Where does the truth lay?
Be interesting as I say to see how it plays out.
Is that why one firm go 16/1 which would look massive.
Where does the truth lay?
Be interesting as I say to see how it plays out.
Either way it’s either shoddy reporting or people are trying to pull the wool to possibly benefit.
Neither looks good or professional.
Neither looks good or professional.
Maybe a mandatory ban on horses who've been reported lame by course vets or trainers eg 30 days for the horse's welfare, and punters. Similarly, a wind operation.
Don't be silly,penzance.When has the cretin given any reason for his nonsense posts?
You’ve shown yourself to be genuinely thicker than two planks, yet again.
I was referring to Aceform's statement,Delbert.
Don't be a silly boy
Don't be a silly boy
She’ll go to the breeding shed imo……Coolmore….it’s how they work.
Of course she will eventually but that was not what you said,was it
I am,of course,grateful to Aceform informing me they are a Breeding Operation.
Who would have thought that
Who would have thought that
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