Since 2020 be honest are you winning?.

Losing myself but buttons compared to the above.

Have to say its the greatest game of all time, if the cash lasts the luck will change.

i was breathing in 2020, and i'm still breathing today. that makes me a winner in my book.

Fricoco the clowns drone is 3.3 up. Allegedly.

Don't care. I did a couple of years as a pro but then I went back to a proper job and now I bet buttons for fun.

It's an extremely tough game, if you rely on winnings from horse racing.

Making a smaller side profit, still tough, but more possible. I truly believe over-reaching, and trying for too much earnings, is the biggest problem in being a winner in racing gambling. Game can cut you in half the second you try for a big one, it seems to just know.

But steady small earnings, still difficult, the way to go with it. All IMO.

Strong mindset required when venturing into the lions den.

Regard it as a hobby now and make small consistents profits which certainly wouldn't be enough to live on but a welcome supplement to my pensions.

When non-racing people ask me, my answer is usually "it's a very cheap hobby".

It's probably of no consolation now Ageingpunter but spare a thought for those on here that followed the advice of a prominent poster on here.

He started a topic son 30 July 25 uggesting that a horse in that Group One at Goodwood you refer to was backable at 1.06 to finish in the 1st 3.

He said "this is a full bank..pawn the lot and invest".

It came 4th.

Brian, if you're supplementing your pension it must be a free hobby surely?!

AP how are you getting on with Safer Gambling and deposit limits ?I am down to the minimum deposit wise and they are contacting me regularly.

jamee doing OK but he did post 1 April 2026 


From 01 Apr 2025 to 31 Mar 2026, you've won

+ £162,481.07

Rico the exchange multi will guide you….

An individual who plays on the football has amassed one thousand million (allegedly),although doubt it’s from the exchange…

Maybe get some hints…

From 16 Apr 2025 to 15 Apr 2026, you've won

+ £108,108.08

been following hulk.

Swifty Brian, if you're supplementing your pension it must be a free hobby surely?!

I take the view that most peeople don't understand betting so my comment is equivalent to 'No Comment' .

I don't wager on here it took me a few years but I found a great alternative it's Via skrill payments but I can lay or back what I want 2% commission.withdraws are 3 days but that's cool with me.withdrew upto 3k no issues. Kyc very basic.all my UK accounts limited to 500 per month it's pointless.

Brian, you could just do the 'shrug' - 'I make a little...'

There must be some winning punters but i swear to God i have never met one.

easy to fudge a c&p..they never post a screenshot.

Personally I don't really give a monkey's whether other people make profit or not, or whether anyone else believes me or not...each to their own.

i dont bleeve ewe..liar liar.

..laying qirat at 160.......ouch ......for a hunner....and peops on ere won't let Rico forget about field of gold to place

blip,fred.

U were unlucky.....age was just a greedy chunt

Wat is the great alternative aging?

U had 300 on that Skelton horse sat.....saying it was ten pounds well in.....at. 3/1. Drifted and won at 4/1. Everyone saying well done after race.......Up a grand. Then u risking 4 grand on a Stuart will rag. That's not run in 6 months to win a measley 50 squid

If I remember  right u said Skeltons was a ten start nap.

freddie fawning over Rico.  Yet again.

All the more ironic that it's on this topic. Field Of Gold, Rico's full bank job was 4th in Qirat's race

Only god goes full bank top2

Ricos a million to ever have gone full bank on anything except the sun coming up the next day

and one day he will be wrong about that, though fortunately it wont be for another billion years

No.

Scientists don't really know how the sun works, could burn out any time. But worth taking 1.01 it won't be tomorrow.

Plenty of people winning in 2020 won't be winning much in 2026. Rico included.

im just fiddling by swift..rarely get involved till last fur..i won 6 figs ev yr for 15yrs...cant expect to get close to that now..in fairness i dont try.

once technology took over it was doomed for man with eyes, bots and gps killed IR for the majority, which is a shame because it would still be a game of skill with more level playing field on the pic front. my best year was 2019, downhill ever since!

as u say..technology is now way ahead and controlling it..IR theres nothing to win last 2f..ev bet done at overide,pences ev price,ignore what you see its all fake clickbait,90% of time when i click it vanishes instantly..all just automated skammm ming.

That’s touching to read

you eulogy would be more satisfying.

Rico-Dangleflaps

as u say..technology is now way ahead and controlling it..IR theres nothing to win last 2f..ev bet done at overide,pences ev price,ignore what you see its all fake clickbait,90% of time when i click it vanishes instantly..all just automated skammm ming

This . technology has killed the in running markets . the drones and GPS did that . i suspect betfair now prop up the markets themselves . in the last few years i have never had so many clicks on a horse that the price/money instantly disappears and lowers to a stupid amount and odds within the 1 second delay . sometimes i might want to green up or red out on a horse using the ladder on gruss and as soon as i press the button where the money is available for me i am front runned .

the other issue is liquidity. if you lay a horse and want to get out of the bet there is nothing there. yesterday there was a horse that won, can't remember exactly it's price or name, but it was around 20s pre off, the only real money to get out of the bet was around 2.4 ish

pre drones and GPS 400k a race was easily matched, even more . the liquidity bot providers got picked off even more so than they did with facetime. sis etc .

how does turnover on the horse racing compare for the last 10 years on the exchange compared to bookmakers , as in has the exchange dropped but not the bookmakers ?

Rico was a losing pre pro until he found God.

Breaking news...

Why would you risk blowing all of your profit on one bet? I tend to bet to small stakes and take very defensive positions by laying off in running at half of the original bet price. Only ever bet on Betfair, bet place only quite a lot. I got my loss down to £50 last year despite having a bet most days. I am happy to stake £5 on a race and win £2. I do it purely for amusement and have no illusions about a long term profit.

A wise sage...your money lasts longer on Betfair.

I am up £6k since lockdown, but £4k of that was purely on 2 up football matched betting with b367, before i made the braindead decision to start betting on norwegian summer football...account gubbed immediately. I never lay any horses pre off, rare SIRLs only.


I back the ones at big prices and ride out inevitable massive losing runs

formoftheace 17 Apr 26 09:50 
Rico was a losing pre pro until he found God.

sew waz the other 99.9999%

harold_lloyd 17 Apr 26 09:47 
This . technology has killed the in running markets . the drones and GPS did that . i suspect betfair now prop up the markets themselves .

of course..its 95% automated skammming.

Matched bets
Order by matched date
Lay (Bet Against)
Backer's odds
Backer's stake
Payout
Liability
Baileys Khelstar
65
£0.32
£20.48
Baileys Khelstar
90
£0.12
£10.68
Baileys Khelstar
100
£0.61
£60.39
Baileys Khelstar
120
£0.09
£10.71
Baileys Khelstar
130
£0.46
£59.34
Baileys Khelstar
170
£0.17
£28.73
Baileys Khelstar
180
£0.01
£1.79
Baileys Khelstar
240
£0.01
£2.39
Baileys Khelstar
380
£0.01
£3.79
Baileys Khelstar
390
£0.01
£3.89
Baileys Khelstar
400
£0.04
£15.96
Baileys Khelstar
440
£0.04
£17.56
Baileys Khelstar
540
£0.02
£10.78
Baileys Khelstar
690
£0.01
£6.89
Baileys Khelstar
880
£0.01
£8.79
Baileys Khelstar
950
£0.01
£9.49
Baileys Khelstar
1,000
£3.06
£3,056.94

an example of a paddi sk ham..horse 1/2L down 1/2f out..its 20 22 24 in the pink to bits of munnee..rico sez rite i'll offer five pounds at 1000..paddi bot sez..oh,heres rico offering 1000...well rico..ewe int getting 20..or 22..or 24..but ewe khan have pences all the weight to 1000.

wd paddi..a fine cistern you supplying there son.

Yes Freddie Williams bit intake each race on its merits. Every race is different if I can't find a bet I try and find a lay

I can pick winners I just need to be smarter
I cannot chance them losses it's gone.

Tomorrow I think there is another cert and I think it will be my only bet I just cannot see the horse losing. Touleen. 2-1 was a great price,I think it will go off 5-4. Burrows is a trainer I have a lot of time for.

I also fancy Leadman at Thirsk but I may leave that as trainer is bang out of form.

I was about about break even punter maybe a small winner till 2008 big bucks won his his world hurdle fred was 5/4 all morning shops 2k limit  remember seeing him 1.8 here so got to idea to have 2k on lay 1.8 so did the shop down the road got 4k on layed it off started my arbing journey made 400k  over the years,  still do a little bit now horses nothing like it was don't even have 1 bookie account now, the upcoming World Cup just about kept my interest in the game.

Help me here someone. What is AUTOMATED SCAMMING?

its something to blame when you dont think quick enough or press the button quick enough to obtain the odds shown on the screen, especially in the last 110 yards of a race.

TTT, are you quick enough to beat the 1 sec delay after showing your hand?

Studying form hard and still  applying a cautious approach (mainly not having too many bets) paid off for years

Then suddenly Betfair allows people to lay horses, dogs, to lose, surprise surprise (said nobody whatsoever), more horses than ever get stopped  and not just because they are being laid out for future handicaps

Hence it’s much harder now to make it pay

Studying form hard and still  applying a cautious approach (mainly not having too many bets) paid off for years

Then suddenly Betfair allows people to lay horses, dogs, to lose, surprise surprise (said nobody whatsoever), more horses than ever get stopped  and not just because they are being laid out for future handicaps

Hence it’s much harder now to make it pay

swiftynifty 18 Apr 26 12:37 
TTT, are you quick enough to beat the 1 sec delay after showing your hand?


sense at last..tiger thick as shít.

someone wants to back £5 at 10/1 with 110 yards on a horse thats been headed. do you think youre the only one trying to take his fiver ? if its you and 1 other, its 50/50 who gets it. probably dozens maybe even hundreds trying to nab it.

i dont play inrunning but thats how i see it. but if it really is how you say it is, i wouldnt bother playing. good luck.

TameTheTiger 18 Apr 26 13:58 
i dont play inrunning

ok..stick to commenting on something you know about...end of convo.

definition of thick as ****..... Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

.stick to commenting on something you know about...end of convo.

are you ok ?

bit of a loose cannon at times but fit and healthy.

excellent, thats all that matters at the end of the day. good luck !

merci.

rico never hud a wuman in his life.

done your missus when you were out cottaging..shes was loose..hanging like a tired dog ydc.

Disgusing little man.

Mr T ya dope peek húnt.

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“He started a topic son 30 July 25 uggesting that a horse in that Group One at Goodwood you refer to was backable at 1.06 to finish in the 1st 3.”

You can guess how it ended ….

Ageingpunter 15 Apr 26 18:07 
I did the same last year at goodwood, laid the group one winner £100 @ 164 I'm either just unlucky or thinking too much into it.

Ageingpunter 16 May 26 17:52 
I know mate. It's the hardest game in the world and ruthless.
I layed the group one winner at Goodwood last year, think I laid 144 for 60 quid. That stung.

to be a decent liar needs a decent memory.

To be fair I laid that beast and I couldn't tell you the price now or the exact amount though I know it was just a few pound (probably 2 or 3).

The Group One winner at Goodwood last year that Ageingpunter refers to was Qirat in the Sussex Stakes.

If memory serves that was the very same race as the one where someone on here had created a topic early-on that morning suggesting the odds-on favourite was nailed on to finish in the first 3.  Sadly, it finished 4th.

Well I never, look who created the topic....

Lmfaro.

thankfully that same punter has amassed over £3,335,000 in betfair winnings which can all be proofed.

sadly both top2rated and acey dopey have amassed lifetime prophets of absolutely fck hall.

put that in your pipe and smoke it 😆