The Usual O'Brien joke race there.

In running players laughing after two furlongs. If the Moore/O'Brien horse is fit its ridden near the pace. Been the same last two seasons, same goes for debutantes. Not much Moore can do about it if the trainer tells him that's how he wants them ridden.

Spot on, but this is the only place he is likely to be called out. Nauseating listening to tubby Timeform and Adele 'super this' and 'super that'.

elisjohn • April 12, 2026 8:37 AM BST
group3 in ireland today 9 runners, 8 connected to obriens Sad, sad to see the racing now , so the great days of the 70s to start of the new century


Report• Quote • Block User Delashay • April 12, 2026 9:14 AM BST
It’s nought but a staged gallop but can I say that John?


Report• Quote • Block User Delashay • April 12, 2026 9:28 AM BST
If I’d backed the Derby fav I’d be worried about him running there today!

DD you've been on the same page for some time regarding this 'phenomenon'. I dont lay so its my own fault I'm not gaining from this.

Don’t worry PB backers Lambourn was beat 2 and a bit lengths in this last year!

There ya go. Cape Cod out in front, no fitness issues.

but good / great horses on the whole win their trials, frankel, brave, shergar, oh so sharp. sharastanhi, f footsteps, tirol , too many to mention,  now no one has a clue abot the gns / derby , look o albert now backed into 2fav for 2000 , its a lottery , even the suppose goat hasnt a clue

They’ve a clue John but are willing to run the wring horses over the wrongs trips and when not fit, but they won’t say.

Elise john makes a valid point, the greats majotiy of the time had a load of ones next to them in the form book. O'brien mob never really feel like they are punter friendly. often hyped up and fail to deliver. Was a Time ladcrooks bookmaker always seem to be in the know when they meant business or not. Rancid and ruthless operation with the best pedigrees.

But Lambourn was gifted the Epsom Derby, and won nothing since.

Was one of the only stayers Impossible and given a great ride, don’t think anything behind has done well since.

Easy peasy

I think to run a horse when it's severely under-cooked esp a shortie fav is unprofessional, and being a total disdain to the horse's supporters and punters. I think this ought to be banned or a financial or short suspension imposed.

It’s not on, I agree, is it ok to criticise the goat?

A negative that he stays there for that trial, stays the trip well, means it’s a plodder!