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FOYLESWAR
12 Apr 26 12:32
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derby trial and ballydoyle have won 6 of the last 10 runnings and have 4 in here pierre bonard worthy fav and prominnent in the derby betting improving last season and sets the standard .  christmas day endorsement and italy also have very useful form and no suprise if any of those 3 were to win .
i like the chance of josephs shozlaloza who was under 3l behind pierre bonard and the reoposing boy named suioxie at saint cloud in very soft ground in october last year but that was just his 2nd run and the 1st 2 had much more exp than the job horse who now gets 5 pound from  pierre bonard and is a much bigger price
todays going may suit much better . selection shozlaloza 25/1 firms bog ew  between 32 -40s on here win and places on here .good luck opinions encouraged.
selection shozlaloza 25/1 ew win and place on here .

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differentdrum
When: 12 Apr 26 13:15
Good luck. I must admit I try and avoid races where the O'Brien's are mob handed. Here the family have all bar one runner who came from last to first under completely different conditions. I often get the impression that although something may appear obvious beforehand, they are not too bothered which one they end up winning with - another horse just gets moved along the conveyor belt.
By:
StillLearning
When: 12 Apr 26 13:16
nothing personal.. I just avoid Irish racing full stop
By:
impossible123
When: 12 Apr 26 15:11
Sound advice both.
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 12 Apr 26 17:04
Christmas Day doubled in price and wins well. Evens fav never really in it
By:
uptheirons
When: 12 Apr 26 17:05
Second guess Coolmore at your peril
By:
impossible123
When: 12 Apr 26 17:06
The fav Pierre Bonnard was hopelessly undercooked. Nevertheless, AOB had a 1, 2 in the race. AOB at his best hoodwinking unsuspecting punters.
By:
differentdrum
When: 12 Apr 26 17:13
Typical O'Brien. Imagine if Pierre Bonnard was the only decent horse he had, but of course he has blue bloods everywhere so 'failures' like this don't matter a jot.
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impossible123
When: 12 Apr 26 17:50
Benvenuto Cellini was nibbled over the last few days and prior to the dismal performance of Pierre Bonnard in The Ballysax earlier. I think his Ballysax performance was bad. Has he not trained on or hopelessly under-cooked?

I'd think it's the former myself.
By:
Delashay
When: 12 Apr 26 17:52
The form of his G1 doesn’t look good Impossible, in his favour only 3 horses will really stay the trip!

I’ve not seen the race but to be behind Italy when current Derby Fav? Crazy
By:
impossible123
When: 12 Apr 26 18:03
Taking Endorsement and A Boy Named Sioux as the yardstick even before the eclipse of Pierre Bonnard (PB) today Benvenuto Cellini has the edge over PB. Also, I noticed there was money for Benvenuto Cellini over the last few days prior to The Ballysax.

PB is no Auguste Rodin or City Of Troy. It's very unlikely PB will improve much from The Ballysax.
By:
uptheirons
When: 12 Apr 26 18:05
ReallyLaugh
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Delashay
When: 12 Apr 26 18:38
Remember Impossible he was giving a big chunk of weight so don’t give up on your double. I’d be more concerned if he took after my part namesake Delacroix and went for the next trial there.
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impossible123
When: 13 Apr 26 15:54
Yes, however, PB did not run up to the form with Endorsement (E). There is little between PB and  Benvenuto Cellini (BC) on a line with (E); BC gave 5lbs and a 2.75l beating to E. I understand yesterday was the 1st run of PB, similarly his stablemates.

I think PB could be another The Lion In Winter.
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Delashay
When: 13 Apr 26 16:29
It’s a negative that he takes in the next trail at Leopardstown I’d say
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