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slickster
07 Apr 26 13:18
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2.27 haayimm. 8.00 merry. Guaranteed profit for the place double. Possible jackpot with 2 winners. Visit few shops with 10er ew doubles to avoid detection. Guaranteed 5er odd profit per score. And you never know...

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By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 07 Apr 26 13:53
yew karnt avoid 'detection' wearing a clown hat yfdsc.
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 07 Apr 26 14:34
Shocked g luck with Merry
By:
TD23
When: 07 Apr 26 14:38
Well done matey. First one won well. Will cheer the second one home for you. GL
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 07 Apr 26 14:48
£10 ew in a pretendee dublin turf accountants returns £80
£10 ew bf returns £113

and people wonder why dickster wears clown shoes trapesey round Dublin

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By:
Bentring
When: 07 Apr 26 15:18
It's yoyos ysdc
By:
slickster
When: 07 Apr 26 15:22
Cheers nanny and TD. A proper racing thread with nice replies. Fricoco the REAL clown positively foaming at the gills. Who said anything about a single ydc. 5 and a half tins short of a 6 pack. Here for comedy purposes only.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 07 Apr 26 15:34
£10 ew in a pretendee dublin turf accountants returns ...£80 going on the other
£10 ew bf returns £113 ...£80 going on the other

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By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 07 Apr 26 15:35
£10 ew in a pretendee dublin turf accountants returns ...£80 going on the other
£10 ew bf returns £113 ...£113 going on the other


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By:
top2rated
When: 07 Apr 26 15:38
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By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 07 Apr 26 15:40
dickster & t2r

2 non bettors

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By:
top2rated
When: 07 Apr 26 15:50
As it says on the photo, 'It all adds up Rico'...

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By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 07 Apr 26 16:02
By:
top2rated
When: 07 Apr 26 16:08
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Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 07 Apr 26 16:14


By:
Bentring
When: 07 Apr 26 16:20
It's the way i tell em
By:
top2rated
When: 07 Apr 26 16:28
Hey Rico, remember when you posted yet another one of those bragging laptop screenshots and forgot to close the 4th tab?

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By:
top2rated
When: 07 Apr 26 16:32
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By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 07 Apr 26 16:42
sum wud say it was intentshunhall t2r..sum mite knott.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 07 Apr 26 20:27
dubble kapoot? 🤡
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 07 Apr 26 20:37
surely not ! slick said the profit was guaranteed !
By:
uptheirons
When: 07 Apr 26 20:47
Dickster will have been on for first four placesLaugh
By:
slickster
When: 07 Apr 26 20:51
Double kapooted. Can't win em all. Actually just as well. 10 ew double would have a return of 224. I must not go over the 200 threshold otherwise the crookies alarm bells start ringing. Every cloud...
By:
swiftynifty
When: 07 Apr 26 20:55
unlucky there slick, unraced one and big improver scuppered you for the PD
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 07 Apr 26 21:41
Double kapooted. Can't win em all. Actually just as well. 10 ew double would have a return of 224.

10ew dubble on bf wood av returned 370

and dickster the forum fantasist is still wearing shoes out walking across the O'connell bridge 12 times a day.

pmsl wac Laugh
By:
TD23
When: 07 Apr 26 22:16
Unlucky there mate. Winner from a good family. Merry got a bit worked up in stalls which camt have helped.
By:
fairweather
When: 08 Apr 26 07:28
I wonder how many of this sort of bet the fabled black market bookies would stand for?
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Apr 26 08:37
About as many as any online licensed bookies I would think. btw I actually don't think these bets are profitable anymore. The place prices are obviously 1.33 and 1.32 in comparison to 2 and 1.45 in the books, but the win prices are so bad that they destroy that value. In fact, the expected return of a £10 ew bet on them is £19.10 and £17.50 respectively.
By:
dave1357
When: 08 Apr 26 08:39
When it was oncourse bookies setting sp, did win only books get included in the average?
By:
stewarts rise
When: 08 Apr 26 09:34
Come back Mr Lucky 15, all is forgiven.Grin
By:
Brian
When: 08 Apr 26 09:39
Dave When it was oncourse bookies setting sp, did win only books get included in the average?

Yes Dave, that is when it was profitable without any doubt. In fact I suspect some of the those oncourse bookies pushed out the price of the each-way horse and were taking advantage themselves. Sadly those days long gone.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 08 Apr 26 10:09
dickster jussed texted me,sez Martin Lewis has asked him to kollaborate in a parody money loosing cistern sketch for his new series of 'Trapseing for dough' on itv.

pmsl
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By:
The Management
When: 08 Apr 26 10:30
Agree with Dave and Brian. Back in the day your Each-Way thief was getting amazing value on the place element of the EW bet and only moderately bad value on the win element. It was a trade-off well worth doing under the right conditions.

The way SP's/Prices work now, you are getting pretty good (rather than amazing) value on the place element and shockingly badly (rather than moderately bad) value on the win element.

^ Some degree of sweeping statement and generalisation in those sentances, which isn't really appropriate because the exact structure of every betting market is unique - but generally speaking, for Each Way singles (and even doubles) the balance has swung (imo) so that the terribly bad value win element now more than cancels out the good value of the place element.

Accas a different story maybe - but how often do you get 4 or 5 such races on one day? Also a different story if you can cover/hedge the win element of your bet without giving too much away - but that then brings other complex factors into play, maybe even including the chronological order of your selections!

In summary - it's complicated! - it's still doable - but it's not as good as it used to be! Laugh
By:
slickster
When: 08 Apr 26 13:43
Cheers TD correct. Playing up in stalls cost him 3rd but he wouldn't have won. Nothing wrong with the bet but these things happen. When Chapman was all over it I knew my fate.
20 odd years ago you would regularly see 1-7 13-2 25 bar in an 8 or 9 runner maiden. It was legalised stealing. Crookies have squeezed the orange so much there's barely a drop left. But we persevere..
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 08 Apr 26 13:54
slickster 08 Apr 26 13:43 
Cheers TD correct. Playing up in stalls cost him 3rd but he wouldn't have won. Nothing wrong with the bet

Double kapooted. Can't win em all. Actually just as well. 10 ew double would have a return of 224.

10ew dubble on bf wood av returned 370

nothing rong with the bet? are ewe for real ya dozeekhúnt?
By:
Busyfool
When: 08 Apr 26 14:19
these bets have not been winning since the shakedown and off-course books using their own sp

it was inevitable and it doesnt work with the win or place as theyve shaved the 2nd fav by about 25%
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 08 Apr 26 15:55
wont often work when ya happy with £224 when in the comfort of your own house would return £370 Happy
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 08 Apr 26 17:16
Ew stealing.....wat year is it. 1980
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 08 Apr 26 17:19
1979 in Dubb lynn.
By:
slickster
When: 09 Apr 26 12:56
Today's each way double is...4.05 Brighterdaysahead. 6.00 zooter. In the 2.32 secret sniper is fancied to definitely be in the 2 with a more than fair chance of winning. Fav is dodgy.
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