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An old fashioned acca from the gods there.
More numbers and letters in the form lines than a scientific calculator.
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Skelton should not be mentioned in the same sentence as Barney.
Nevertheless,an able Trainer
Nevertheless,an able Trainer
Doesn't sit as well when it comes from the champion trainer.
Skelton should not be mentioned in the same sentence as Barney
To be fair to Skelton, he does train winners of all types, even honest triers.
Barney never trained a winner that wasn't bent.
To be fair to Skelton, he does train winners of all types, even honest triers.
Barney never trained a winner that wasn't bent.
bha have gave skellers crew a license to print.
The bookies ought to be ashamed of themselves for bringing this up. The odds were minuscule in comparison to proper payouts for a multiple.
DragonBet? Who is this betting entity? Is it a recent inception? I've never heard of it.
DragonBet? Who is this betting entity? Is it a recent inception? I've never heard of it.
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Don’t comment on topics you know sweet FA about.
In fact just don’t comment at all.
Don’t comment on topics you know sweet FA about.
In fact just don’t comment at all.
wouldn't think the George Gently crew are cheering him on
BHA and the H'capper defo give Skelton a pass, how the hell they only raised Madara 10lb for that Cheltenham win was beyond belief.
BHA and the H'capper defo give Skelton a pass, how the hell they only raised Madara 10lb for that Cheltenham win was beyond belief.
Agree, surely should've gone up 14lb. Wins a competitive h'cap easily by 7 and half lengths
H'capper does his bit for again
H'capper does his bit for again
Why not just back it if you think it remains well treated?
exactly uti. if i thought a horse had a stone in hand it wouldnt go unbacked
uptheirons, yes you can back it but do you trust the Skeltons to run it on its merits thats the problem, you have to back these 'Skelton plots' when they happen but it seems that the outfit is given a bit of a pass when it comes to the H'capper.
We all could see what was happening with Langer Dan except the H'capper and also what was happening this year with Supremly West and Madara was obvious, even Skelton himself was practicaly saying they were playing the system with them, look we all backed them and great but their are outfits outthere whose horses get whacked up 10lb or so for winning some twobob race at a gaff track that might not win again for 18months depending on the name of the trainer that is where the unfairness lies along with the punters who dont know about the 'vagaries' of non triers.
We all could see what was happening with Langer Dan except the H'capper and also what was happening this year with Supremly West and Madara was obvious, even Skelton himself was practicaly saying they were playing the system with them, look we all backed them and great but their are outfits outthere whose horses get whacked up 10lb or so for winning some twobob race at a gaff track that might not win again for 18months depending on the name of the trainer that is where the unfairness lies along with the punters who dont know about the 'vagaries' of non triers.
Are you telling me that sometimes a horse does not run on its merit? FFS- I thought racing was as straight as Lombard Street in San Francisco.
When has the handicapper ever given ratings based on the yard having a reputation for plots?
The whole world knew Curley's MO, often buying highly rated German horses and getting them beat 40l until they had 25lb in hand. The handicapper still dropped them like a stone though.
Nobody knew when the handbrake was being lifted. At least you have a fair idea when they are for Skelton, and he doesn't operate like Curley did. Obviously the same for SMP and many others.
The whole world knew Curley's MO, often buying highly rated German horses and getting them beat 40l until they had 25lb in hand. The handicapper still dropped them like a stone though.
Nobody knew when the handbrake was being lifted. At least you have a fair idea when they are for Skelton, and he doesn't operate like Curley did. Obviously the same for SMP and many others.
It's pretty counter intuitive, liking horse racing but being perturbed by gambling plots. Probably not the right game for you 
Barney's horses were largely his own barring the odd one for Patsy Byrne.
The Skeltons work on an entirely different level with responsibilities to their Owners coming first.
I don't have a problem with their M/O
The Skeltons work on an entirely different level with responsibilities to their Owners coming first.
I don't have a problem with their M/O
To keep a lid on the plots. It's a completely different era, there are not many firms that can keep them under the radar until the show nowadays. There is not a lot of overlap between Skelton and Curley. They both trained racehorses, and are/were very successful in what they set out to achieve.
it appears as though Dan Skelton's relentless greed is not just confined to the dinner table
Why compare him to Barney? Hes a top flight trainer with a big string that likes to plot one up for his owners. Martin Pipe and Twiston-Davies were similar. On the flat, Luca Cumani, Barry Hills, Clive Brittain, Reg Akehurst, Mark Prescott, Paul Cole. I could go on and on. They all liked a good plot.
Good to see the game still has a few of them imo, all part of the sport.
Good to see the game still has a few of them imo, all part of the sport.
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