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Any adult who sees himself and describes himself first and foremost as a football supporter may be safely ignored.
..... In fairness to RACINGSTAR he isnt a Football fan as he supports West Ham.
Agree Life - Lucky I know you’re on Avicenna I just wondered what people thought of Haneklow not turning up and the general form?
To me it doesn’t look good enough and he’s largely being talked up because of the Craven run.
There Venetian Prince ran up to form with Hidden Force who he’d met previously, getting closer to him.
VP is over 100/1 and Varian’s colt wasn’t that fr in front of him. Because the form with Hidden Force held up it makes me trust it.
To me it doesn’t look good enough and he’s largely being talked up because of the Craven run.
There Venetian Prince ran up to form with Hidden Force who he’d met previously, getting closer to him.
VP is over 100/1 and Varian’s colt wasn’t that fr in front of him. Because the form with Hidden Force held up it makes me trust it.
I wrote this a while ago
Delashay • April 17, 2026 9:40 AM BST
I think that Gosden holds the key to the Guineas in terms of form.
I’m waiting to see the field and then I’ll show you a formline that I found that might surpass the Dewhurst.
It’s always risky taking lines on face value but it might point to something special, it certainly looks better than beating Humidity by a 1 L.
Here’s the formline
Archer Royal trained by Gosden
Kem C23y 15K 1m St/Slw 9-2 7/9 btn 10L King's Trail 9-6 6/1 T Heard 99 69 75
168 days break
11Oct25
Nmk row C12yG3 37K 1m GF 9-3 7/7 btn 5¼L Hankelow 9-3 11/2 R Havlin 99 75 89
25Sep25
Nmk row C12yG3 34K 7f Gd 9-2 3/7 btn 5¼L Distant Storm 9-2 11/2 R Havlin — 88 93
28Aug25
Cfd C42yNv 5K 7f St 9-7 1/9 by 1L Sovereign View 9-
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His weakness in the market is a worry, as is Avicenna turning up as I rewatched the Craven yesterday and listened to Varian who was talking about the option of the French Guineas for his colt.
So is Appleby that confident?
When Gosden said after the Craven that Oxagon could place in the Guineas was the run of Archer Royal in the back of his mind thinking of Kings Trail?
Delashay • April 17, 2026 9:40 AM BST
I think that Gosden holds the key to the Guineas in terms of form.
I’m waiting to see the field and then I’ll show you a formline that I found that might surpass the Dewhurst.
It’s always risky taking lines on face value but it might point to something special, it certainly looks better than beating Humidity by a 1 L.
Here’s the formline
Archer Royal trained by Gosden
Kem C23y 15K 1m St/Slw 9-2 7/9 btn 10L King's Trail 9-6 6/1 T Heard 99 69 75
168 days break
11Oct25
Nmk row C12yG3 37K 1m GF 9-3 7/7 btn 5¼L Hankelow 9-3 11/2 R Havlin 99 75 89
25Sep25
Nmk row C12yG3 34K 7f Gd 9-2 3/7 btn 5¼L Distant Storm 9-2 11/2 R Havlin — 88 93
28Aug25
Cfd C42yNv 5K 7f St 9-7 1/9 by 1L Sovereign View 9-
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His weakness in the market is a worry, as is Avicenna turning up as I rewatched the Craven yesterday and listened to Varian who was talking about the option of the French Guineas for his colt.
So is Appleby that confident?
When Gosden said after the Craven that Oxagon could place in the Guineas was the run of Archer Royal in the back of his mind thinking of Kings Trail?
As a Spuds supporter your views are worthless,Life-Lucky.
A bit like your team
A bit like your team
Delashay • April 30, 2026 6:07 PM BST
If we’re dealing with the formbook alone then two are over odds.
I’d written about the Irish horse and here’s the second Billiecart. 150/1 125/1
He ran in the maiden at Newmarket that Distant Storm won, was beaten 3 3/4 L
But finished ahead of Oxagon by 1 3/4
A certain Venetian Prince was a head behind the Craven winner that day.
His last run on the all weather was abysmal but if you scratch that the colt has ability and isn’t the odds that he is on that maiden form.
At those odds if he’s last it’s not like I’ve stuck my neck out!
But there’s plus and negatives about lots of them and we don’t know how the draw is going to play out, if they’ll split?
But he’s drawn in 6
Around 62.5% of the last 16 winners (10 in total) were drawn 6 or lower. Yes, last year's winner Ruling Court came from gate 11, but 4 of the last 5 winners were still housed between 1-6. Then, zoom out slightly and 7 of the last 10 were drawn 9 or lower.
Good luck all and thanks to those who have contributed.
If we’re dealing with the formbook alone then two are over odds.
I’d written about the Irish horse and here’s the second Billiecart. 150/1 125/1
He ran in the maiden at Newmarket that Distant Storm won, was beaten 3 3/4 L
But finished ahead of Oxagon by 1 3/4
A certain Venetian Prince was a head behind the Craven winner that day.
His last run on the all weather was abysmal but if you scratch that the colt has ability and isn’t the odds that he is on that maiden form.
At those odds if he’s last it’s not like I’ve stuck my neck out!
But there’s plus and negatives about lots of them and we don’t know how the draw is going to play out, if they’ll split?
But he’s drawn in 6
Around 62.5% of the last 16 winners (10 in total) were drawn 6 or lower. Yes, last year's winner Ruling Court came from gate 11, but 4 of the last 5 winners were still housed between 1-6. Then, zoom out slightly and 7 of the last 10 were drawn 9 or lower.
Good luck all and thanks to those who have contributed.
Was interested to read this last night.
Trainer's view: Karl Burke: "He's a talented horse who ran very well on the grass then bolted up in an egg-and-spoon race on the all-weather. We went back for the Burradon and he wouldn't have won at five, six or seven furlongs. Something was amiss, although we couldn't find anything. I think you'll see a different horse on Saturday. Kia [Joorabchian, owner] is mad keen to have a go at it and the horse worked very well on Tuesday."
Trainer's view: Karl Burke: "He's a talented horse who ran very well on the grass then bolted up in an egg-and-spoon race on the all-weather. We went back for the Burradon and he wouldn't have won at five, six or seven furlongs. Something was amiss, although we couldn't find anything. I think you'll see a different horse on Saturday. Kia [Joorabchian, owner] is mad keen to have a go at it and the horse worked very well on Tuesday."
I was against him and wasn’t impressed with him in the paddock, but well done anyone that stuck with him, instant reaction looked like lots of non stayers in there to me.
Distant Storm never convinced me and duly beaten 10 3/4 L in third
Kings Trail back in 9th beaten 13 1/2
So in 3 lengths back to 9th 7 horses.
Not a lot of quality there.
That they ran the Varian colt was tip that they weren’t confident.
It’s a shame with all the non runners we’ve had as the bunch look much of a muchness and there has to be more quality over the mile than what was on show there.
Kings Trail back in 9th beaten 13 1/2
So in 3 lengths back to 9th 7 horses.
Not a lot of quality there.
That they ran the Varian colt was tip that they weren’t confident.
It’s a shame with all the non runners we’ve had as the bunch look much of a muchness and there has to be more quality over the mile than what was on show there.
Not again for Mr Gosden. Will he win one before he saunters off to pasture new with his wife?
His best never turned up today impossible and he never fancied winning with Oxagon.
Neither did Gewan. The best of Mr Gosden had never turned up, period. A curse or karma?
After the Craven Gosden said when asked is Oxagon a Guineas contender? His reply was no but he could place.
Delashay • May 2, 2026 12:47 PM BST
Agree Life - Lucky I know you’re on Avicenna I just wondered what people thought of Haneklow not turning up and the general form?
To me it doesn’t look good enough and he’s largely being talked up because of the Craven run.
Thanks.
Delashay • May 2, 2026 12:47 PM BST
Agree Life - Lucky I know you’re on Avicenna I just wondered what people thought of Haneklow not turning up and the general form?
To me it doesn’t look good enough and he’s largely being talked up because of the Craven run.
Thanks.
Impossible Publish should have beaten Bow Echo at Haydock, that was the general consensus.
I had my doubts about the Colt at Newmarket.
The horse that Bow Echo beat in the Autumn stakes Humidity beat his other non runner in a maiden by 5L. He came out and reversed that form running by Humidity like he was standing still in a Group 2 beating him 3+ L that’s nearly a 9L turnaround.
I hope all think and bet Bow Echo like he’s unbeatable because when the right one shows I’ll be backing against him.
I had my doubts about the Colt at Newmarket.
The horse that Bow Echo beat in the Autumn stakes Humidity beat his other non runner in a maiden by 5L. He came out and reversed that form running by Humidity like he was standing still in a Group 2 beating him 3+ L that’s nearly a 9L turnaround.
I hope all think and bet Bow Echo like he’s unbeatable because when the right one shows I’ll be backing against him.
People who post Trainer comments (in enormous amounts)have zero chance Delbert
uptheirons • May 1, 2026 7:11 PM BST
I will put up my opinion now.
I will not be having a bet on equine Bingo at this time of year.
You seem to have anger management issues,Delbert
Guess what?! THE ante post UNBEATEN FAV WON!
Some bingo today!
I will put up my opinion now.
I will not be having a bet on equine Bingo at this time of year.
You seem to have anger management issues,Delbert
Guess what?! THE ante post UNBEATEN FAV WON!
Some bingo today!
strangely enough I did not want to guess on the fitness levels of the front two.
But,you did not think it would win,Delbert.
Not even from your reams of pre race C&P can you aftertime this one,bullshatter supreme
But,you did not think it would win,Delbert.
Not even from your reams of pre race C&P can you aftertime this one,bullshatter supreme
Let me see, did any come out here or on the other thread and say that they were backing Bow Echo? 
NO
The unbeaten Ante Post FAV that you DIDN’T see as being the good thing this time last night!
It’s easy to call aftertimer, I took a stance and remain with what I said and posted at 6:18pm ( which is more than you’re ever risked!)
NO The unbeaten Ante Post FAV that you DIDN’T see as being the good thing this time last night!
It’s easy to call aftertimer, I took a stance and remain with what I said and posted at 6:18pm ( which is more than you’re ever risked!)
The fact remains that you were wrong Delbert but it doesn't matter as you don't actually bet
Delashay • May 1, 2026 6:39 PM BST
I don’t see the Needle Match run as being great, yes he has ability but they finished in a bunch and he wasn’t going past Albert at a rate of knots and he’s a nah show here.
Needle Match is as low as 10/1 win a Guineas in his 3rd start, Makfi was 33/1 on the day and the last one to do so.
Remind me of where this one finished? That the media wanted to get you all on.
2nD Last beaten 21 1/2 L
I don’t see the Needle Match run as being great, yes he has ability but they finished in a bunch and he wasn’t going past Albert at a rate of knots and he’s a nah show here.
Needle Match is as low as 10/1 win a Guineas in his 3rd start, Makfi was 33/1 on the day and the last one to do so.
Remind me of where this one finished? That the media wanted to get you all on.
2nD Last beaten 21 1/2 L
Delashay • May 2, 2026 12:47 PM BST
Agree Life - Lucky I know you’re on Avicenna I just wondered what people thought of Haneklow not turning up and the general form?
To me it doesn’t look good enough and he’s largely being talked up because of the Craven run.
Remind me of where this one finished?
Last beaten 29 1/2 L and another that the media wanted people on.
Agree Life - Lucky I know you’re on Avicenna I just wondered what people thought of Haneklow not turning up and the general form?
To me it doesn’t look good enough and he’s largely being talked up because of the Craven run.
Remind me of where this one finished?
Last beaten 29 1/2 L and another that the media wanted people on.
Delashay • March 30, 2026 10:12 AM BST
Then we had the switch with Gstaad…
Well surprise surprise the substitute ended up getting course experience in the Dewhurst, which if you’ll watch he ran too freely and was reigned back by Soumi (who I don’t think rides the track well)
He then stayed on reversing form and looking much bigger than Zavertari who’d beaten him earlier in the year.
I expect him to go off Fav and be their sole runner.
- - - -
A Whole Month Passed by without comment from any of you.
And oh my didn’t I get a lot right!
Then we had the switch with Gstaad…
Well surprise surprise the substitute ended up getting course experience in the Dewhurst, which if you’ll watch he ran too freely and was reigned back by Soumi (who I don’t think rides the track well)
He then stayed on reversing form and looking much bigger than Zavertari who’d beaten him earlier in the year.
I expect him to go off Fav and be their sole runner.
- - - -
A Whole Month Passed by without comment from any of you.
And oh my didn’t I get a lot right!
Autistic people can learn to treat others with respect.
Yes .. Avicenna .. stone last. Sadly
Yes .. Avicenna .. stone last. Sadly
That’s a troubling thing to say, I’ve not disrespected anyone Life and took no glee from it running so badly.
I was merely showing that despite thinking that something would beat Bow that I got lots right and don’t just cut and paste but give an opinion.
I treat people as they treat me and if I’m given abuse then my tongue is sharp enough and mind quick enough to fire back.
I’m not Autistic and so what if I were?
I don’t back down to bullies and meet them on unequal terms because they are in fact below me.
Any human that gets their kicks as that creep does needs a Priest or something because I’m all out of pity for him.
I treat people as they treat me and if I’m given abuse then my tongue is sharp enough and mind quick enough to fire back.
I’m not Autistic and so what if I were?
I don’t back down to bullies and meet them on unequal terms because they are in fact below me.
Any human that gets their kicks as that creep does needs a Priest or something because I’m all out of pity for him.
Delashay • May 2, 2026 6:58 PM BST
That’s a troubling thing to say, I’ve not disrespected anyone Life and took no glee from it running so badly.
That’s a troubling thing to say, I’ve not disrespected anyone Life and took no glee from it running so badly.
uptheirons • May 2, 2026 6:50 PM BST
Delashay • May 2, 2026 6:39 PM BST
And that’s why you married the unlucky bird that you did! Laugh
Shat in your eyes Wink
Would that be a good example of you not disrespecting anyone,Delbert
Delashay • May 2, 2026 6:39 PM BST
And that’s why you married the unlucky bird that you did! Laugh
Shat in your eyes Wink
Would that be a good example of you not disrespecting anyone,Delbert
Or,perhaps this one ;
Delashay • May 2, 2026 7:06 PM BST
Says you Laugh
Mr Angry typing from his comode waiting for the rino to come wipe yr asss! Laugh
Delashay • May 2, 2026 7:06 PM BST
Says you Laugh
Mr Angry typing from his comode waiting for the rino to come wipe yr asss! Laugh
Life-Lucky • May 2, 2026 12:40 PM BST
Any adult who sees himself and describes himself first and foremost as a football supporter may be safely ignored.
uptheirons • May 2, 2026 12:53 PM BST
As a Spuds supporter your views are worthless,Life-Lucky.
A bit like your team
Lots of Repec there!
Any adult who sees himself and describes himself first and foremost as a football supporter may be safely ignored.
uptheirons • May 2, 2026 12:53 PM BST
As a Spuds supporter your views are worthless,Life-Lucky.
A bit like your team
Lots of Repec there!
You are a well balanced individual,Delbert.
You have a chip on both shoulders.
BTW,how is Sweep?
You have a chip on both shoulders.
BTW,how is Sweep?
Hey Lucky - Life you ok with blatant racism?
The rest of you seem to be.
I’m not.
The rest of you seem to be.
I’m not.
How unfortunate Delbert.
Now,go and paint another master piece or your toilet.
Those who give it out have to take it without playing the race card
Now,go and paint another master piece or your toilet.
Those who give it out have to take it without playing the race card
Insulting a posters Wife(even if he had one) seems ok for you to do Delbert
Awe so touching trying talk, keep it to racing and save your insults you hypocrite and give my regards to the rino that’s probably more like a beached whale now!
You are a pitiful,potless individual with the IQ of a snail.
Consider yourself blessed that I am not a filthy Grass or you would be off here for your remarks
Consider yourself blessed that I am not a filthy Grass or you would be off here for your remarks
uptheirons • May 2, 2026 8:37 PM BST
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I’m only here to talk horses not with assswipes! Thanks and night night, I’m off down the rub a dub
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I’m only here to talk horses not with assswipes! Thanks and night night, I’m off down the rub a dub
Update
This years Greenham winner didn’t show but I doubt he’d of figured.
2/13winners ran in the Greenham Stakes (Newbury) on their last run, 0 of the 2 won, 1 placed
The craven proves a trial to avoid when looking for the Guineas winner.
Delashay • March 24, 2026 8:20 AM GMT
Why would I like to see the craven skipped?
For me it’s not a positive going into the Guineas, the best performances tend to be from horses having their first run there that year, something potentially gets left behind in the Craven.
It’s just my recollection over the years, I’ve seen plenty of impressive Craven winners (last years winner Field of Gold a prime example) and it’s always paid to stand your ground and go against them.
Since 2004
Only Haafhd
Winners of The craven Stakes record in the Guineas after
2025 Field Of Gold 2ND @ 15/8F
2024 Haatem 3rd @ 16/1
2022 Native Trail 2ND @ 5/4F
2021 Master of The Seas 2ND @ 6/1
2019 Skardu 3rd @ 8/1
2018 Masar @ 3rd @ 5/2F
2013 Toronado nk 4th @ 11/4
2012 Trumpet Major 1.25 4th @ 8/1
2011 Native Khan (bumped into one!) 3rd @ 16/1
2009 Delegator (bumped into one) 2ND @ 3/1
2008 Twice Over Went to the Dante where he was 3rd
This years winner Oxagon finished 10th beaten 12 3/4L @ 12/1
As said history has shown, “it’s always paid to stand your ground and go against them.”
This years Greenham winner didn’t show but I doubt he’d of figured.
2/13winners ran in the Greenham Stakes (Newbury) on their last run, 0 of the 2 won, 1 placed
The craven proves a trial to avoid when looking for the Guineas winner.
Delashay • March 24, 2026 8:20 AM GMT
Why would I like to see the craven skipped?
For me it’s not a positive going into the Guineas, the best performances tend to be from horses having their first run there that year, something potentially gets left behind in the Craven.
It’s just my recollection over the years, I’ve seen plenty of impressive Craven winners (last years winner Field of Gold a prime example) and it’s always paid to stand your ground and go against them.
Since 2004
Only Haafhd
Winners of The craven Stakes record in the Guineas after
2025 Field Of Gold 2ND @ 15/8F
2024 Haatem 3rd @ 16/1
2022 Native Trail 2ND @ 5/4F
2021 Master of The Seas 2ND @ 6/1
2019 Skardu 3rd @ 8/1
2018 Masar @ 3rd @ 5/2F
2013 Toronado nk 4th @ 11/4
2012 Trumpet Major 1.25 4th @ 8/1
2011 Native Khan (bumped into one!) 3rd @ 16/1
2009 Delegator (bumped into one) 2ND @ 3/1
2008 Twice Over Went to the Dante where he was 3rd
This years winner Oxagon finished 10th beaten 12 3/4L @ 12/1
As said history has shown, “it’s always paid to stand your ground and go against them.”
This is a reminder for me as much as the rest of you of the record of Craven winners since the last one doubled up.
Life-Lucky • April 20, 2026 12:44 PM BST
Thanks Del. Great summary.
• April 20, 2026 5:15 PM BST
Thanks Life - Lucky
Respect is given when shown
Thanks Del. Great summary.
• April 20, 2026 5:15 PM BST
Thanks Life - Lucky
Respect is given when shown
Has Delbert been paid out on his double digit E/W Bet on Gstaad?
Regretably.Fantasy Island Bookmakers exist only in the loon's head.
Feel free to prove me wrong.
As for you showing respect
Regretably.Fantasy Island Bookmakers exist only in the loon's head.
Feel free to prove me wrong.
As for you showing respect
I think that it’s also safe to say given the record subsequent record of Gasstd that AOB DID put people away last year by saying that his BEST colt had missed the Coventry.
That’s how far back the narrative of a story goes with this lot, even into this year it was kept alive and punters were left with half truths in reports peddled by the press about likely contenders who would go for this years race.
In short it’s disgusting.
That’s how far back the narrative of a story goes with this lot, even into this year it was kept alive and punters were left with half truths in reports peddled by the press about likely contenders who would go for this years race.
In short it’s disgusting.
Looking back at the race I felt that Bow Echo was given a hard race, a harder race than he needed, so that might be why he is only second fav for the Irish 2000.
He was further back than he wanted to be and maybe the excitement got to the jockey by trying to win going away and opening up the gap more?
To do both Guineas and the St James’ Palace is a difficult thing to do.
Bougehy :
“I think he has every right to be held in high regard and within his generation he looks a very good horse. He’s fast but he also stays. I don’t think he’s a Derby horse and I’d like to make him champion miler.
“There’s the Irish 2,000 Guineas, then there’s Ascot and taking on older horses. I’d like to make him a dual Guineas winner, but he will tell us whether that’s right.”
History will show that this time last year despite his narrow defeat at Newmarket, hopes were high that Field Of Gold could go on to rule the mile devision.
What was there to stand in his way? Ruling Court was to go towards the Derby, Shadow Of Light was a doubtful stayer over the Curragh and As it miles.
History tells us beware of taking short odds on these good things, Bow Echo might make hay but even Paddington’s winning streak came to an end eventually.
Before the guineas I’m sure I heard him say that he felt the colt will get 10f so a step up might be on the cards and on class and the way he won it looks well within his compass.
He was further back than he wanted to be and maybe the excitement got to the jockey by trying to win going away and opening up the gap more?
To do both Guineas and the St James’ Palace is a difficult thing to do.
Bougehy :
“I think he has every right to be held in high regard and within his generation he looks a very good horse. He’s fast but he also stays. I don’t think he’s a Derby horse and I’d like to make him champion miler.
“There’s the Irish 2,000 Guineas, then there’s Ascot and taking on older horses. I’d like to make him a dual Guineas winner, but he will tell us whether that’s right.”
History will show that this time last year despite his narrow defeat at Newmarket, hopes were high that Field Of Gold could go on to rule the mile devision.
What was there to stand in his way? Ruling Court was to go towards the Derby, Shadow Of Light was a doubtful stayer over the Curragh and As it miles.
History tells us beware of taking short odds on these good things, Bow Echo might make hay but even Paddington’s winning streak came to an end eventually.
Before the guineas I’m sure I heard him say that he felt the colt will get 10f so a step up might be on the cards and on class and the way he won it looks well within his compass.
And,has just worked out that statements from Coolmoore are not to be mistaken for the truth
Its not over until The Fat Lady Sings,top2 and whatever the outcome is I shall certainly be no poorer
Days between 2 year old races
27Sep25
There are 21 days between September 6 and September 27
06Sep25
There are 21 days between August 15 and September 5.
15Aug25
There are21 days between the English 2000 Guineas and the Irish 2000
Then 23 days between the Irish 2000 Guineas and the St James’ Palace Stakes
43 days between Ascot and the Sussex Stakes.
Field of Gold had taken in one more race on this schedule by taking in the Craven so that will help Bow Echo.
But 21 days between Group 1’s is maybe why the likes of Cockney Rebel could do the Guineas double Ascot treble.
27Sep25
There are 21 days between September 6 and September 27
06Sep25
There are 21 days between August 15 and September 5.
15Aug25
There are21 days between the English 2000 Guineas and the Irish 2000
Then 23 days between the Irish 2000 Guineas and the St James’ Palace Stakes
43 days between Ascot and the Sussex Stakes.
Field of Gold had taken in one more race on this schedule by taking in the Craven so that will help Bow Echo.
But 21 days between Group 1’s is maybe why the likes of Cockney Rebel could do the Guineas double Ascot treble.
1,2,3 2026 2000 Guineas
Bow Echo - 01Mar23 - 9/2
Gstaad - 22Mar23 - 3/1j
Distant Storm - 15Feb23 - 3/1j
2025
Ruling Court - 08Feb22 - 9/2
Field Of Gold - 03Mar22 - 15/8F
Shadow of Light - 19Feb22 - 6/1
2024
Notable Speech - 10Mar21 - 16/1
Rossallion - 14Apr21 - 15/2
Haatem - 02Mar21 - 16/1
2023
Chaldean - 10May20 - 5/2j
Royal Scotsman - 29Apr20 - 12/1
Nostrum - 06Mar20 - 5/2j
2022
Coroebus - 19Mar19 - 5/1
Native trail - 03Feb19 - 5/4f
Luxembourg - 24Mar19 - 9/2
2021
Poetic Flare - 26Mar18 - 16/1
Master Of The Seas - 04Mar18 - 6/1
Lucky Vega - 27Feb18 - 12/1
2020
Kameko - 07Apr17 - 10/1
Wichita - 28Apr17 - 15/2
Pinatubo - 11Mar17 - 5/6F
2019
Manga Grecia - 25Feb16 - 11/2
King of Change - 20Mar16 - 66/1
Skardu - 01Apr16 - 8/1
2018
Saxon Warrior - 26Jan15 - 3/1
Tip To Win - 12May15 - 50/1
Masar - 16Apr15 - 5/2F
2017
Churchill - 31Jan14 - 6/4f
Barney Roy - 29Jan14 - 7/2
Al Wakir - 15Feb14 - 11/2
2016
Galileo Gold - 31Jan13 - 14/1
Masssaat - 20Feb13 - 9/1
Ribchester - 24Mar13 - 33/1
2015
Gleneagles - 12Jan12 - 4/1
Terroritories - 7May12 - 5/1
Ivawood - 12Feb12 - 10/1
2014
Night of Thunder - 12Mar11 - 40/1
Kingman - 26Feb11 - 5/4f
Australia - 8Apr - 5/2
2013
Dawn Approach - 23Apr10 - 11/8f
Glory Awaits - 20Feb10 - 150/1
Van Der Neer - 1Mar - 20/1
2012
Camelot - 05Mar09 - 15/8f
French Fifteen - 7Feb09 - 12/1
Hermival - 23Apr09 - 16/1
2011
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
2009
Sea The Stars - 6Apr06 - 8/1
Delegator - 21Mar06 - 2/1f
Gab Amhras - 14Jan06 - 15/2
2008
HenryTheNavigator - 28Feb05 - 11/1
New Approach - 18Feb05 - 11/8f
Stubbs Art - 28Jan05 - 100/1
2007
Cockney Rebel - 16Mar04 - 25/1
Vital Equine - 24Feb04 - 33/1
Dutch Art - 18Mar04 - 14/1
Adagio - 07Apr04 - 4/1f unplaced
2006
George Washington - 01Mar03 - 6/4f
Sir Percy - 27Jan03 - 4/1
Olympian Odyssey - 19Apr03 - 33/1
2005
Footstepinthesand - 15Feb02 - 13/2
Rebel Rebel - 25Mar02 - 100/1
Kandidate - 15Apr02 - 100/1
2004
Haafhd - 18Feb01 - 11/2
Snow Ridge - 09Apr01 - 8/1
Azamour - 08Mar01 - 25/1
Bow Echo - 01Mar23 - 9/2
Gstaad - 22Mar23 - 3/1j
Distant Storm - 15Feb23 - 3/1j
2025
Ruling Court - 08Feb22 - 9/2
Field Of Gold - 03Mar22 - 15/8F
Shadow of Light - 19Feb22 - 6/1
2024
Notable Speech - 10Mar21 - 16/1
Rossallion - 14Apr21 - 15/2
Haatem - 02Mar21 - 16/1
2023
Chaldean - 10May20 - 5/2j
Royal Scotsman - 29Apr20 - 12/1
Nostrum - 06Mar20 - 5/2j
2022
Coroebus - 19Mar19 - 5/1
Native trail - 03Feb19 - 5/4f
Luxembourg - 24Mar19 - 9/2
2021
Poetic Flare - 26Mar18 - 16/1
Master Of The Seas - 04Mar18 - 6/1
Lucky Vega - 27Feb18 - 12/1
2020
Kameko - 07Apr17 - 10/1
Wichita - 28Apr17 - 15/2
Pinatubo - 11Mar17 - 5/6F
2019
Manga Grecia - 25Feb16 - 11/2
King of Change - 20Mar16 - 66/1
Skardu - 01Apr16 - 8/1
2018
Saxon Warrior - 26Jan15 - 3/1
Tip To Win - 12May15 - 50/1
Masar - 16Apr15 - 5/2F
2017
Churchill - 31Jan14 - 6/4f
Barney Roy - 29Jan14 - 7/2
Al Wakir - 15Feb14 - 11/2
2016
Galileo Gold - 31Jan13 - 14/1
Masssaat - 20Feb13 - 9/1
Ribchester - 24Mar13 - 33/1
2015
Gleneagles - 12Jan12 - 4/1
Terroritories - 7May12 - 5/1
Ivawood - 12Feb12 - 10/1
2014
Night of Thunder - 12Mar11 - 40/1
Kingman - 26Feb11 - 5/4f
Australia - 8Apr - 5/2
2013
Dawn Approach - 23Apr10 - 11/8f
Glory Awaits - 20Feb10 - 150/1
Van Der Neer - 1Mar - 20/1
2012
Camelot - 05Mar09 - 15/8f
French Fifteen - 7Feb09 - 12/1
Hermival - 23Apr09 - 16/1
2011
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
2009
Sea The Stars - 6Apr06 - 8/1
Delegator - 21Mar06 - 2/1f
Gab Amhras - 14Jan06 - 15/2
2008
HenryTheNavigator - 28Feb05 - 11/1
New Approach - 18Feb05 - 11/8f
Stubbs Art - 28Jan05 - 100/1
2007
Cockney Rebel - 16Mar04 - 25/1
Vital Equine - 24Feb04 - 33/1
Dutch Art - 18Mar04 - 14/1
Adagio - 07Apr04 - 4/1f unplaced
2006
George Washington - 01Mar03 - 6/4f
Sir Percy - 27Jan03 - 4/1
Olympian Odyssey - 19Apr03 - 33/1
2005
Footstepinthesand - 15Feb02 - 13/2
Rebel Rebel - 25Mar02 - 100/1
Kandidate - 15Apr02 - 100/1
2004
Haafhd - 18Feb01 - 11/2
Snow Ridge - 09Apr01 - 8/1
Azamour - 08Mar01 - 25/1
1,2,3 2026 2000 Guineas
Bow Echo - 01Mar23 - 9/2
Gstaad - 22Mar23 - 3/1j
Distant Storm - 15Feb23 - 3/1j
2025
Ruling Court - 08Feb22 - 9/2
Field Of Gold - 03Mar22 - 15/8F
Shadow of Light - 19Feb22 - 6/1
2024
Notable Speech - 10Mar21 - 16/1
Rossallion - 14Apr21 - 15/2
Haatem - 02Mar21 - 16/1
2023
Chaldean - 10May20 - 5/2j
Royal Scotsman - 29Apr20 - 12/1
Nostrum - 06Mar20 - 5/2j
2022
Coroebus - 19Mar19 - 5/1
Native trail - 03Feb19 - 5/4f
Luxembourg - 24Mar19 - 9/2
2021
Poetic Flare - 26Mar18 - 16/1
Master Of The Seas - 04Mar18 - 6/1
Lucky Vega - 27Feb18 - 12/1
2020
Kameko - 07Apr17 - 10/1
Wichita - 28Apr17 - 15/2
Pinatubo - 11Mar17 - 5/6F
2019
Manga Grecia - 25Feb16 - 11/2
King of Change - 20Mar16 - 66/1
Skardu - 01Apr16 - 8/1
2018
Saxon Warrior - 26Jan15 - 3/1
Tip To Win - 12May15 - 50/1
Masar - 16Apr15 - 5/2F
2017
Churchill - 31Jan14 - 6/4f
Barney Roy - 29Jan14 - 7/2
Al Wakir - 15Feb14 - 11/2
2016
Galileo Gold - 31Jan13 - 14/1
Masssaat - 20Feb13 - 9/1
Ribchester - 24Mar13 - 33/1
2015
Gleneagles - 12Jan12 - 4/1
Terroritories - 7May12 - 5/1
Ivawood - 12Feb12 - 10/1
2014
Night of Thunder - 12Mar11 - 40/1
Kingman - 26Feb11 - 5/4f
Australia - 8Apr - 5/2
2013
Dawn Approach - 23Apr10 - 11/8f
Glory Awaits - 20Feb10 - 150/1
Van Der Neer - 1Mar - 20/1
2012
Camelot - 05Mar09 - 15/8f
French Fifteen - 7Feb09 - 12/1
Hermival - 23Apr09 - 16/1
2011
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
2009
Sea The Stars - 6Apr06 - 8/1
Delegator - 21Mar06 - 2/1f
Gab Amhras - 14Jan06 - 15/2
2008
HenryTheNavigator - 28Feb05 - 11/1
New Approach - 18Feb05 - 11/8f
Stubbs Art - 28Jan05 - 100/1
2007
Cockney Rebel - 16Mar04 - 25/1
Vital Equine - 24Feb04 - 33/1
Dutch Art - 18Mar04 - 14/1
Adagio - 07Apr04 - 4/1f unplaced
2006
George Washington - 01Mar03 - 6/4f
Sir Percy - 27Jan03 - 4/1
Olympian Odyssey - 19Apr03 - 33/1
2005
Footstepinthesand - 15Feb02 - 13/2
Rebel Rebel - 25Mar02 - 100/1
Kandidate - 15Apr02 - 100/1
2004
Haafhd - 18Feb01 - 11/2
Snow Ridge - 09Apr01 - 8/1
Azamour - 08Mar01 - 25/1
Bow Echo - 01Mar23 - 9/2
Gstaad - 22Mar23 - 3/1j
Distant Storm - 15Feb23 - 3/1j
2025
Ruling Court - 08Feb22 - 9/2
Field Of Gold - 03Mar22 - 15/8F
Shadow of Light - 19Feb22 - 6/1
2024
Notable Speech - 10Mar21 - 16/1
Rossallion - 14Apr21 - 15/2
Haatem - 02Mar21 - 16/1
2023
Chaldean - 10May20 - 5/2j
Royal Scotsman - 29Apr20 - 12/1
Nostrum - 06Mar20 - 5/2j
2022
Coroebus - 19Mar19 - 5/1
Native trail - 03Feb19 - 5/4f
Luxembourg - 24Mar19 - 9/2
2021
Poetic Flare - 26Mar18 - 16/1
Master Of The Seas - 04Mar18 - 6/1
Lucky Vega - 27Feb18 - 12/1
2020
Kameko - 07Apr17 - 10/1
Wichita - 28Apr17 - 15/2
Pinatubo - 11Mar17 - 5/6F
2019
Manga Grecia - 25Feb16 - 11/2
King of Change - 20Mar16 - 66/1
Skardu - 01Apr16 - 8/1
2018
Saxon Warrior - 26Jan15 - 3/1
Tip To Win - 12May15 - 50/1
Masar - 16Apr15 - 5/2F
2017
Churchill - 31Jan14 - 6/4f
Barney Roy - 29Jan14 - 7/2
Al Wakir - 15Feb14 - 11/2
2016
Galileo Gold - 31Jan13 - 14/1
Masssaat - 20Feb13 - 9/1
Ribchester - 24Mar13 - 33/1
2015
Gleneagles - 12Jan12 - 4/1
Terroritories - 7May12 - 5/1
Ivawood - 12Feb12 - 10/1
2014
Night of Thunder - 12Mar11 - 40/1
Kingman - 26Feb11 - 5/4f
Australia - 8Apr - 5/2
2013
Dawn Approach - 23Apr10 - 11/8f
Glory Awaits - 20Feb10 - 150/1
Van Der Neer - 1Mar - 20/1
2012
Camelot - 05Mar09 - 15/8f
French Fifteen - 7Feb09 - 12/1
Hermival - 23Apr09 - 16/1
2011
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
2009
Sea The Stars - 6Apr06 - 8/1
Delegator - 21Mar06 - 2/1f
Gab Amhras - 14Jan06 - 15/2
2008
HenryTheNavigator - 28Feb05 - 11/1
New Approach - 18Feb05 - 11/8f
Stubbs Art - 28Jan05 - 100/1
2007
Cockney Rebel - 16Mar04 - 25/1
Vital Equine - 24Feb04 - 33/1
Dutch Art - 18Mar04 - 14/1
Adagio - 07Apr04 - 4/1f unplaced
2006
George Washington - 01Mar03 - 6/4f
Sir Percy - 27Jan03 - 4/1
Olympian Odyssey - 19Apr03 - 33/1
2005
Footstepinthesand - 15Feb02 - 13/2
Rebel Rebel - 25Mar02 - 100/1
Kandidate - 15Apr02 - 100/1
2004
Haafhd - 18Feb01 - 11/2
Snow Ridge - 09Apr01 - 8/1
Azamour - 08Mar01 - 25/1
1,2,3 2026 2000 Guineas
Bow Echo - 01Mar23 - 9/2
Gstaad - 22Mar23 - 3/1j
Distant Storm - 15Feb23 - 3/1j
Bow Echo - 01Mar23 - 9/2
Gstaad - 22Mar23 - 3/1j
Distant Storm - 15Feb23 - 3/1j
2025
Ruling Court - 08Feb22 - 9/2
Field Of Gold - 03Mar22 - 15/8F
Shadow of Light - 19Feb22 - 6/1
Ruling Court - 08Feb22 - 9/2
Field Of Gold - 03Mar22 - 15/8F
Shadow of Light - 19Feb22 - 6/1
2024
Notable Speech - 10Mar21 - 16/1
Rossallion - 14Apr21 - 15/2
Haatem - 02Mar21 - 16/1
Notable Speech - 10Mar21 - 16/1
Rossallion - 14Apr21 - 15/2
Haatem - 02Mar21 - 16/1
2023
Chaldean - 10May20 - 5/2j
Royal Scotsman - 29Apr20 - 12/1
Nostrum - 06Mar20 - 5/2j
Chaldean - 10May20 - 5/2j
Royal Scotsman - 29Apr20 - 12/1
Nostrum - 06Mar20 - 5/2j
2023
Chaldean - 10May20 - 5/2j
Royal Scotsman - 29Apr20 - 12/1
Nostrum - 06Mar20 - 5/2j
Chaldean - 10May20 - 5/2j
Royal Scotsman - 29Apr20 - 12/1
Nostrum - 06Mar20 - 5/2j
2022
Coroebus - 19Mar19 - 5/1
Native trail - 03Feb19 - 5/4f
Luxembourg - 24Mar19 - 9/2
2021
Poetic Flare - 26Mar18 - 16/1
Master Of The Seas - 04Mar18 - 6/1
Lucky Vega - 27Feb18 - 12/1
2020
Kameko - 07Apr17 - 10/1
Wichita - 28Apr17 - 15/2
Pinatubo - 11Mar17 - 5/6F
Coroebus - 19Mar19 - 5/1
Native trail - 03Feb19 - 5/4f
Luxembourg - 24Mar19 - 9/2
2021
Poetic Flare - 26Mar18 - 16/1
Master Of The Seas - 04Mar18 - 6/1
Lucky Vega - 27Feb18 - 12/1
2020
Kameko - 07Apr17 - 10/1
Wichita - 28Apr17 - 15/2
Pinatubo - 11Mar17 - 5/6F
2019
Manga Grecia - 25Feb16 - 11/2
King of Change - 20Mar16 - 66/1
Skardu - 01Apr16 - 8/1
2018
Saxon Warrior - 26Jan15 - 3/1
Tip To Win - 12May15 - 50/1
Masar - 16Apr15 - 5/2F
2017
Churchill - 31Jan14 - 6/4f
Barney Roy - 29Jan14 - 7/2
Al Wakir - 15Feb14 - 11/2
2016
Galileo Gold - 31Jan13 - 14/1
Masssaat - 20Feb13 - 9/1
Ribchester - 24Mar13 - 33/1
Manga Grecia - 25Feb16 - 11/2
King of Change - 20Mar16 - 66/1
Skardu - 01Apr16 - 8/1
2018
Saxon Warrior - 26Jan15 - 3/1
Tip To Win - 12May15 - 50/1
Masar - 16Apr15 - 5/2F
2017
Churchill - 31Jan14 - 6/4f
Barney Roy - 29Jan14 - 7/2
Al Wakir - 15Feb14 - 11/2
2016
Galileo Gold - 31Jan13 - 14/1
Masssaat - 20Feb13 - 9/1
Ribchester - 24Mar13 - 33/1
2015
Gleneagles - 12Jan12 - 4/1
Terroritories - 7May12 - 5/1
Ivawood - 12Feb12 - 10/1
2014
Night of Thunder - 12Mar11 - 40/1
Kingman - 26Feb11 - 5/4f
Australia - 8Apr - 5/2
2013
Dawn Approach - 23Apr10 - 11/8f
Glory Awaits - 20Feb10 - 150/1
Van Der Neer - 1Mar - 20/1
2012
Camelot - 05Mar09 - 15/8f
French Fifteen - 7Feb09 - 12/1
Hermival - 23Apr09 - 16/1
Gleneagles - 12Jan12 - 4/1
Terroritories - 7May12 - 5/1
Ivawood - 12Feb12 - 10/1
2014
Night of Thunder - 12Mar11 - 40/1
Kingman - 26Feb11 - 5/4f
Australia - 8Apr - 5/2
2013
Dawn Approach - 23Apr10 - 11/8f
Glory Awaits - 20Feb10 - 150/1
Van Der Neer - 1Mar - 20/1
2012
Camelot - 05Mar09 - 15/8f
French Fifteen - 7Feb09 - 12/1
Hermival - 23Apr09 - 16/1
2011
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
2009
Sea The Stars - 6Apr06 - 8/1
Delegator - 21Mar06 - 2/1f
Gab Amhras - 14Jan06 - 15/2
2008
HenryTheNavigator - 28Feb05 - 11/1
New Approach - 18Feb05 - 11/8f
Stubbs Art - 28Jan05 - 100/1
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
2009
Sea The Stars - 6Apr06 - 8/1
Delegator - 21Mar06 - 2/1f
Gab Amhras - 14Jan06 - 15/2
2008
HenryTheNavigator - 28Feb05 - 11/1
New Approach - 18Feb05 - 11/8f
Stubbs Art - 28Jan05 - 100/1
2011
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
2009
Sea The Stars - 6Apr06 - 8/1
Delegator - 21Mar06 - 2/1f
Gab Amhras - 14Jan06 - 15/2
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
2009
Sea The Stars - 6Apr06 - 8/1
Delegator - 21Mar06 - 2/1f
Gab Amhras - 14Jan06 - 15/2
2011
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
2009
Sea The Stars - 6Apr06 - 8/1
Delegator - 21Mar06 - 2/1f
Gab Amhras - 14Jan06 - 15/2
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
2009
Sea The Stars - 6Apr06 - 8/1
Delegator - 21Mar06 - 2/1f
Gab Amhras - 14Jan06 - 15/2
2011
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
2009
Sea The Stars - 6Apr06 - 8/1
Delegator - 21Mar06 - 2/1f
Gab Amhras - 14Jan06 - 15/2
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
2009
Sea The Stars - 6Apr06 - 8/1
Delegator - 21Mar06 - 2/1f
Gab Amhras - 14Jan06 - 15/2
2011
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
2011
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
It’s seems that stats aren’t likes as I can’t post in full and go back further, that or someone is reporting as I post?
2011
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
This year there were many young foals in the line up.
Avicenna 10th May 14/1
Billecart 2May 66/1
Venetian Prince 9Apr 80/1
Oxagon 6Apr 12/1
Thesecretadveradsry 12Apr 20/1
Non runner Samangan 13May
Backing late foals isn’t a great play, yes Sea The Stars was an April foal as you’d see if could post the other results, but he was a freak and won at 8/1 so not such a miss.
Avicenna 10th May 14/1
Billecart 2May 66/1
Venetian Prince 9Apr 80/1
Oxagon 6Apr 12/1
Thesecretadveradsry 12Apr 20/1
Non runner Samangan 13May
Backing late foals isn’t a great play, yes Sea The Stars was an April foal as you’d see if could post the other results, but he was a freak and won at 8/1 so not such a miss.
2011
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
Frankel - 11Feb08 - 1/2f
Dubawi Gold - 12Mar08 - 33/1
Native Khan - 6Apr08 - 16/1
2010
Makfi - 4Mar07 - 33/1
Dick Turpin - 30Apr07 - 16/1
Canford Cliffs - 8Feb07 - 12/1
(St Nicolas Abbey EVSF 13April07 unplcd
When you consider the young horses listed above and the formlines from trials then there wasn’t much to beat for a colt that had a couple of months extra for strengthening.
Yes they were big prices but history shows short priced April Foals are not to be jumped at, St Nicolas Abbey EVEs F unplaced 13Apr
Another unplaced April foal, Fav Adgio 4/1f Apr
Yes they were big prices but history shows short priced April Foals are not to be jumped at, St Nicolas Abbey EVEs F unplaced 13Apr
Another unplaced April foal, Fav Adgio 4/1f Apr
As the late great BOB DLYAN said , “Don’t criticise what you can’t understand…”
I hope that these insights will make some of you second think your selections next year.
Going back to 2004 only 4 colts foaled in April or May have scored. 23 runnings
Chaldean 10 May 5/2
Kameko 7 Apr 10/1
Dawn Approch 23 Apr 11/8f
Sea The Stars 6 Apr 8/1
Going back to 2004 only 4 colts foaled in April or May have scored. 23 runnings
Chaldean 10 May 5/2
Kameko 7 Apr 10/1
Dawn Approch 23 Apr 11/8f
Sea The Stars 6 Apr 8/1
Relentless C&P nonsense by the Autistic moron.
Still,it keeps him off the Streets
Still,it keeps him off the Streets
Well well, this morning I was questioning the words of the trainer of our new 2000 Guineas winner.
About the task involved to take in the Irish Guineas on route to the SJP after what I perceived to be an unduly hard race given by an adrenaline filled jockey.
Delashay • May 4, 2026 11:37 AM BST
Looking back at the race I felt that Bow Echo was given a hard race, a harder race than he needed, so that might be why he is only second fav for the Irish 2000.
He was further back than he wanted to be and maybe the excitement got to the jockey by trying to win going away and opening up the gap more?
To do both Guineas and the St James’ Palace is a difficult thing to do.
Bougehy :
“I think he has every right to be held in high regard and within his generation he looks a very good horse. He’s fast but he also stays. I don’t think he’s a Derby horse and I’d like to make him champion miler.
“There’s the Irish 2,000 Guineas, then there’s Ascot and taking on older horses. I’d like to make him a dual Guineas winner, but he will tell us whether that’s right.”
About the task involved to take in the Irish Guineas on route to the SJP after what I perceived to be an unduly hard race given by an adrenaline filled jockey.
Delashay • May 4, 2026 11:37 AM BST
Looking back at the race I felt that Bow Echo was given a hard race, a harder race than he needed, so that might be why he is only second fav for the Irish 2000.
He was further back than he wanted to be and maybe the excitement got to the jockey by trying to win going away and opening up the gap more?
To do both Guineas and the St James’ Palace is a difficult thing to do.
Bougehy :
“I think he has every right to be held in high regard and within his generation he looks a very good horse. He’s fast but he also stays. I don’t think he’s a Derby horse and I’d like to make him champion miler.
“There’s the Irish 2,000 Guineas, then there’s Ascot and taking on older horses. I’d like to make him a dual Guineas winner, but he will tell us whether that’s right.”
Sam Hendry
Assistant Audience editor
Published on 4 May 2026inBritain
Last updated 19:08, 4 May 2026
George Boughey has revealed his 2,000 Guineas star Bow Echo will skip the Irish 2,000 Guineas and head to the St James's Palace Stakes at Royal Ascot next.
“He was trained for the 2,000 Guineas and this gives us a nice gap to freshen him up and go again," said Boughey. "It makes sense to give him that bit of time.
"Ascot is very much the plan. It’s somewhere we’ve always hoped we’d get to with a live chance, and to go there now as a Guineas winner is very exciting.”
Beyond Ascot, Bow Echo is likely to remain at a mile with his trainer name-checking the Sussex Stakes at Glorious Goodwood as a possible first attempt at tackling older horses.”
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Time told he was overly exerted
Assistant Audience editor
Published on 4 May 2026inBritain
Last updated 19:08, 4 May 2026
George Boughey has revealed his 2,000 Guineas star Bow Echo will skip the Irish 2,000 Guineas and head to the St James's Palace Stakes at Royal Ascot next.
“He was trained for the 2,000 Guineas and this gives us a nice gap to freshen him up and go again," said Boughey. "It makes sense to give him that bit of time.
"Ascot is very much the plan. It’s somewhere we’ve always hoped we’d get to with a live chance, and to go there now as a Guineas winner is very exciting.”
Beyond Ascot, Bow Echo is likely to remain at a mile with his trainer name-checking the Sussex Stakes at Glorious Goodwood as a possible first attempt at tackling older horses.”
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Time told he was overly exerted
Going back to 2004
Only Four horses have done the English Irish 2000 Guineas double
Cockney Rebel 2007
HenryTheNavigator 2008
Gleneagles 2015
Churchill 2017
Only HenryTheNavigator ‘08 and Gleneagles ‘15 landed both Guineas and followed up in the St James’ Palace Stakes.
Henrythenavigator was the only horse to follow up with the Sussex Stakes.
Winning the Ascot show piece might be good for stallion value but it doesn’t as Boughey stated make Bow Echo Champion Miler.
Only Four horses have done the English Irish 2000 Guineas double
Cockney Rebel 2007
HenryTheNavigator 2008
Gleneagles 2015
Churchill 2017
Only HenryTheNavigator ‘08 and Gleneagles ‘15 landed both Guineas and followed up in the St James’ Palace Stakes.
Henrythenavigator was the only horse to follow up with the Sussex Stakes.
Winning the Ascot show piece might be good for stallion value but it doesn’t as Boughey stated make Bow Echo Champion Miler.
Rather than reply directly to your PM I'll jusy say I'm happy to have been of assistance, Dela...
The Irish version is insignificant to the winner of Newmarket. Only Coolmore and the over-rans of Newmarket are more likely to attempt a Guineas double. The SJP is more superior and prestigious.
I get that Impossible but one Swallow and all that think of Field of Gold last year. I can see why they are skipping it as aside from your angle it’s tough to do as history has shown.
Lots have also used the Irish version for redemption, such as Kingman, Canford Cliffs and Field of Gold and then followed up at Ascot.
I’ll be looking at who did next.
I can see why they are skipping and why the books went short, they got a sniff of plans. I do think as I said that he had a harder race than he needed to have at. Newmarket.
Lots have also used the Irish version for redemption, such as Kingman, Canford Cliffs and Field of Gold and then followed up at Ascot.
I’ll be looking at who did next.
I can see why they are skipping and why the books went short, they got a sniff of plans. I do think as I said that he had a harder race than he needed to have at. Newmarket.
Got up to make a cha halfway through writing and repeated myself a bit! 
Zaverteri will also like Ascot and I feel that Eve has had that in her eye line, but not sure how long he’ll be out for.
Will PRico run as Mattisse did last year?
Zaverteri will also like Ascot and I feel that Eve has had that in her eye line, but not sure how long he’ll be out for.
Will PRico run as Mattisse did last year?
Delashay
I hope that these insights will make some of you second think your selections next year.
Going back to 2004 only 4 colts foaled in April or May have scored. 23 runnings
Chaldean 10 May 5/2
Kameko 7 Apr 10/1
Dawn Approch 23 Apr 11/8f
Sea The Stars 6 Apr 8/1
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The accepted wisdom is that the earlier a foal is born, the better its prospects of winning at two years of age should be.
The reason, obviously enough, is that the early foals have a distinct edge in maturity.
So Logically, the juveniles who win the most should be those foaled in January.
The next most successful should be February foals, then March foals and so on.
Apart from the January foals, the statistics follow exactly this sort of progression.
So you could argue that the numbers for january are simply a statistical abberation, a glitch caused by an inadequate data sample or some other error.
Most people would accept this explanation (even though the sample size for the January foals is a massive 21,935).
However, when I saw these figures for the first time, a conversation I had with a stud farm manager a couple of years ago suddenly popped into my mind.
And what that stud farm manager said casts a whole new light on these foaling date statistics.
He told me that with modern techniques such as drugs an UV-lighting programmes, it was possible to pretty much control the date when a stallion was ready to mate and when a mare came into season.
In other words, nowadays the foaling date is largely a matter of choice not chance.
Looking at the statistics, I would say it appears very likely that the owners of the very top broodmares like to send their mares to a stallion as early in the year as possible, but not before March.
Owners of lesser uality broodmares are normally smaller customers, so it's natural that they get shuffled into the less popular breeing slots that produce very early or very late foals.
If a foaling date of a two-year-old can tell us anything, it does not concern its maturity.
Rather it concerns the horses's potential class and stamina.
Foals born in January tend to be low-class sprint sorts.
Foals born in Fberuary tend to be higher-class types suites to longer trips.
March foals are a bit above average in terms of class and stamina.
April foals are pretty much representative of the population as a whole.
And May foals, like those born in January, are more likelt to be chap sprint sorts.
The superior class of February foals and their improvement late in the season is such that over the last nine seasons
you would actually have made a profit betting them in Listed and Group races from August onwards.
Nick Mordin 7th October 1995
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1) Bow Echo 01/03/23
2) Gstaad 22/03/23
3) Distant Storm 15/02/23
4) Into The Sky 18/02/23
5) Thesecretadversary 12/04/23
6) Oxagon 06/04/23
7) Power Blue 01/02/23
8) Padraig Bawn 04/02/23
9) King's Trail 02/02/23
10) Venetian Prince 09/04/23
I hope that these insights will make some of you second think your selections next year.
Going back to 2004 only 4 colts foaled in April or May have scored. 23 runnings
Chaldean 10 May 5/2
Kameko 7 Apr 10/1
Dawn Approch 23 Apr 11/8f
Sea The Stars 6 Apr 8/1
.........................................................................................
The accepted wisdom is that the earlier a foal is born, the better its prospects of winning at two years of age should be.
The reason, obviously enough, is that the early foals have a distinct edge in maturity.
So Logically, the juveniles who win the most should be those foaled in January.
The next most successful should be February foals, then March foals and so on.
Apart from the January foals, the statistics follow exactly this sort of progression.
So you could argue that the numbers for january are simply a statistical abberation, a glitch caused by an inadequate data sample or some other error.
Most people would accept this explanation (even though the sample size for the January foals is a massive 21,935).
However, when I saw these figures for the first time, a conversation I had with a stud farm manager a couple of years ago suddenly popped into my mind.
And what that stud farm manager said casts a whole new light on these foaling date statistics.
He told me that with modern techniques such as drugs an UV-lighting programmes, it was possible to pretty much control the date when a stallion was ready to mate and when a mare came into season.
In other words, nowadays the foaling date is largely a matter of choice not chance.
Looking at the statistics, I would say it appears very likely that the owners of the very top broodmares like to send their mares to a stallion as early in the year as possible, but not before March.
Owners of lesser uality broodmares are normally smaller customers, so it's natural that they get shuffled into the less popular breeing slots that produce very early or very late foals.
If a foaling date of a two-year-old can tell us anything, it does not concern its maturity.
Rather it concerns the horses's potential class and stamina.
Foals born in January tend to be low-class sprint sorts.
Foals born in Fberuary tend to be higher-class types suites to longer trips.
March foals are a bit above average in terms of class and stamina.
April foals are pretty much representative of the population as a whole.
And May foals, like those born in January, are more likelt to be chap sprint sorts.
The superior class of February foals and their improvement late in the season is such that over the last nine seasons
you would actually have made a profit betting them in Listed and Group races from August onwards.
Nick Mordin 7th October 1995
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1) Bow Echo 01/03/23
2) Gstaad 22/03/23
3) Distant Storm 15/02/23
4) Into The Sky 18/02/23
5) Thesecretadversary 12/04/23
6) Oxagon 06/04/23
7) Power Blue 01/02/23
8) Padraig Bawn 04/02/23
9) King's Trail 02/02/23
10) Venetian Prince 09/04/23
Thank you Kincsem for sharing that, a really interesting read and I used to enjoy reading Nick when I first started following the sport.
To some he was a little whacky but he knew his stuff.
I don’t doubt as the piece says that they can determine dates to suit. Both Bow Echo and Gasstd were foaled in March as the piece suggests is the ideal time.
Looking back in recent years there have been younger foals winning and filling the frame, Dawn Approach was the shortest priced and Chaldean next but they had form and if I remember right Dawn Approach was a solid type.
The other years with Sea The Stars and Kameko 8 & 10/1 suggested to me that there wasn’t a standout earlier foal in those particular years.
Sea The Stars was much like this years winner in that he’d raced 3 times at two. He beat Delegator who Meehan was so bullish about going into the Guineas but he was always a doubtful stayer of a strong mile against better opposition despite winning the Craven! But he had the hoodo to burden!
Later when Godolphin bought him he was campaigning at 6f.
Thanks again, it’s much appreciated.
To some he was a little whacky but he knew his stuff.
I don’t doubt as the piece says that they can determine dates to suit. Both Bow Echo and Gasstd were foaled in March as the piece suggests is the ideal time.
Looking back in recent years there have been younger foals winning and filling the frame, Dawn Approach was the shortest priced and Chaldean next but they had form and if I remember right Dawn Approach was a solid type.
The other years with Sea The Stars and Kameko 8 & 10/1 suggested to me that there wasn’t a standout earlier foal in those particular years.
Sea The Stars was much like this years winner in that he’d raced 3 times at two. He beat Delegator who Meehan was so bullish about going into the Guineas but he was always a doubtful stayer of a strong mile against better opposition despite winning the Craven! But he had the hoodo to burden!
Later when Godolphin bought him he was campaigning at 6f.
Thanks again, it’s much appreciated.
Impossible asked if it was Karma or something as to why Gosden hasn’t won the Guineas?
For me he seems stuck in the route of the Craven, but that might be because they are slower types unlike Kingman who took in the Greenham.
He’s been beaten both times, it just surprises me that he’s not gone in fresh and tried something different?
He was able to ready Ombudsman first time up for Dubai, so surly he can get them fit?
For me he seems stuck in the route of the Craven, but that might be because they are slower types unlike Kingman who took in the Greenham.
He’s been beaten both times, it just surprises me that he’s not gone in fresh and tried something different?
He was able to ready Ombudsman first time up for Dubai, so surly he can get them fit?
Bow Echo's 2,000 Guineas win was one of the best I've seen - but this is why I'd still rather be a layer than a player next time
Paul Kealy with his view on Saturday's impressive Newmarket winner
Paul Kealy
Senior tipster
Published on 8 May 2026inPaul Kealy's Betting World
Last updated 12:49, 8 May 2026
Saturday's 2,000 Guineas sure served as a reminder not to judge the quality of a Classic field based on juvenile form.
During the run-up to the season's opening Classic, I lost count of the number of times I read or heard someone say this year's Guineas was totally underwhelming with barely a proper top-class horse in sight, and have to say I was in total agreement.
For a start, I couldn't have Bow Echo being as short as 11-4 favourite ante-post based on a Racing Post Rating of 111 for beating Humidity by a length in the Royal Lodge. The runner-up had, after all, been beaten twice since winning a Chesham that wasn't working out great.
I suppose I got that bit right as Bow Echo ended up a 9-2 chance, but everything else was about as wrong as it could be as what we saw on Saturday was a proper top-drawer performance.
'Outstanding winner' Bow Echo rated joint-best 2,000 Guineas victor since Frankel
Had Gstaad beaten the Guineas field by eight lengths, we would undoubtedly be hailing another Aidan O'Brien-trained Classic winner as a superstar ready to brighten up the whole season. But while Gstaad did beat most of the field by eight lengths and more, there just happened to be another horse two and three-quarter lengths ahead of him.
Caution is the watchword when it comes to racing, though, and where Bow Echo stands among the great milers in Britain and Europe will depend on what he does from now on – and history suggests it's far from a given that he will dominate for the whole season.
There was a saying among the old farts when I was a lad that went like this: the fittest horse wins the Guineas, the luckiest horse wins the Derby, and the best horse wins the St Leger. Such generalisations are obviously nonsense, but it has to be said that in recent years it has been very hard for Newmarket Guineas winners to carry all before them into the summer and autumn.
Frankel, for instance, was the last Newmarket hero to go on to take the Queen Elizabeth II Stakes at Ascot on Champions Day, and while not all of them went that route, most since him had done their winning by the Sussex Stakes. Here's a quick rundown of how they fared.
Camelot (2012)
Was never going to stay at a mile and bettered his neck victory at Newmarket with a five-length Derby success at Epsom. However, after winning a soft Irish Derby at odds of 1-5, he managed to win only one more race, a Group 3 at the Curragh as a four-year-old at odds of 1-3.
Dawn Approach (2013)
The horse whose 127 RPR was matched by Bow Echo. He had much better juvenile form, carrying a rating of 124 into the race, and blew his field away by five lengths at Newmarket. However, despite going off favourite every time afterwards, he managed to win just once. An obvious non-stayer when tailed off in the Derby, he scrambled home by a short head from Toronado in the St James's Palace, went down by half a length to the same horse in the Sussex and was then well beaten in the Prix Jacques le Marois and QEII.
Credit: Alan Crowhurst (Getty Images)
Night Of Thunder (2014)
Bow Echo's sire was a 40-1 winner of his Guineas from Kingman and didn't win another race at three, although he was placed in three Group 1s. He took the Lockinge as a four-year-old but was well below form on his final two outings and retired after beating only two in the Sussex.
Gleneagles (2015)
Followed up his Newmarket win with odds-on victories in the Irish version and the St James's Palace but missed the summer due to unseasonably slow ground and returned to finish only sixth of nine in the QEII. He was tailed off on his final outing, albeit in the Breeders' Cup Classic on dirt.
Galileo Gold (2016)
Won the St James's Palace following a short-priced Irish Guineas defeat but lost four times after that and completely lost his form in his final three runs, starting with an eighth of 11 in the Marois.
Churchill (2017)
Top juvenile who completed the Guineas double at the Curragh but ran four more times – three as favourite – and failed to win.
Saxon Warrior (2018)
Went up in trip after his Guineas success. He was fourth when odds-on for the Derby, third in the Irish Derby and then went close in the Eclipse and Irish Champion. He can hardly be called a complete failure but ultimately his post-Guineas record reads 0-5.
Magna Grecia (2019)
Was the second string O'Brien horse when winning his Guineas and made only two subsequent appearances, finishing fifth in the Irish version and tailed off after a break in the QEII.
Kameko (2020)
Went off 5-2 favourite for the Derby after his success in but finished only fourth to all-the-way winner Serpentine. He did win the Group 2 Joel Stakes in September but was no better than fourth in three more attempts at Group 1 company.
Poetic Flare (2021)
Typically heavily raced by Jim Bolger, running in both French and Irish versions afterwards, but was beaten in both before bouncing back with a St James's Palace success. Certainly wasn't disgraced in three more Group 1s after that but didn't win any of them.
Coroebus (2022)
Just got up to win the St James's Palace Stakes at Royal Ascot before failing to give his running when favourite for the Marois. He was in the process of making his challenge when sadly taking a fatal fall in the Prix de Moulin, so perhaps we didn't get to see how good he really was.
Chaldean (2023)
A commanding winner of his Guineas but a beaten favourite on his next two starts in the St James's Palace (second) and Marois (seventh) and then tailed off in the QEII.
Notable Speech (2024)
Still in training and every bit as good as he was when he won his Guineas, judged on his Grade 1 wins in Canada and at the Breeders' Cup last season. However, as a three-year-old he won only one of his four subsequent outings, the Sussex Stakes in July.
Ruling Court (2025)
Beat favourite Field Of Gold at Newmarket but was no match for that one when only third in the St James's Palace. He ran better in the Eclipse but was still only good enough for third before sadly succumbing to complications from laminitis the following month. Overall, the 14 winners of the 2,000 Guineas at Newmarket between Frankel and Bow Echo have run 71 times between them and managed to win just 14 – and they went off favourite or joint-favourite 40 times.
It doesn't make for great reading, although what's happened in the past doesn't necessarily predict the future. Frankel, after all, did go 8-8 after his Guineas.
This does serve as a reminder, however, that the Guineas is only the starting point in a season, and there's no guarantee that whatever happened on the first Saturday in May is going to be repeated throughout the campaign.
The racing fan in me dearly wants Bow Echo to prove the real deal, not least because it would be great for racing to have a superstar who doesn't run in the colours of Coolmore or Godolphin and instead races out of the yard of one of the brightest young trainers in Britain. I certainly can't wait to see him again.
But the hard-nosed punter in me knows that it is hard to keep a horse on the go throughout a whole campaign, especially one who has been made so obviously hard-fit so early in the season.
I'll be perfectly happy to end up on the wrong side of this, but when it comes to punting, I'll more than likely end up a layer than a player when Bow Echo next runs.
Paul Kealy with his view on Saturday's impressive Newmarket winner
Paul Kealy
Senior tipster
Published on 8 May 2026inPaul Kealy's Betting World
Last updated 12:49, 8 May 2026
Saturday's 2,000 Guineas sure served as a reminder not to judge the quality of a Classic field based on juvenile form.
During the run-up to the season's opening Classic, I lost count of the number of times I read or heard someone say this year's Guineas was totally underwhelming with barely a proper top-class horse in sight, and have to say I was in total agreement.
For a start, I couldn't have Bow Echo being as short as 11-4 favourite ante-post based on a Racing Post Rating of 111 for beating Humidity by a length in the Royal Lodge. The runner-up had, after all, been beaten twice since winning a Chesham that wasn't working out great.
I suppose I got that bit right as Bow Echo ended up a 9-2 chance, but everything else was about as wrong as it could be as what we saw on Saturday was a proper top-drawer performance.
'Outstanding winner' Bow Echo rated joint-best 2,000 Guineas victor since Frankel
Had Gstaad beaten the Guineas field by eight lengths, we would undoubtedly be hailing another Aidan O'Brien-trained Classic winner as a superstar ready to brighten up the whole season. But while Gstaad did beat most of the field by eight lengths and more, there just happened to be another horse two and three-quarter lengths ahead of him.
Caution is the watchword when it comes to racing, though, and where Bow Echo stands among the great milers in Britain and Europe will depend on what he does from now on – and history suggests it's far from a given that he will dominate for the whole season.
There was a saying among the old farts when I was a lad that went like this: the fittest horse wins the Guineas, the luckiest horse wins the Derby, and the best horse wins the St Leger. Such generalisations are obviously nonsense, but it has to be said that in recent years it has been very hard for Newmarket Guineas winners to carry all before them into the summer and autumn.
Frankel, for instance, was the last Newmarket hero to go on to take the Queen Elizabeth II Stakes at Ascot on Champions Day, and while not all of them went that route, most since him had done their winning by the Sussex Stakes. Here's a quick rundown of how they fared.
Camelot (2012)
Was never going to stay at a mile and bettered his neck victory at Newmarket with a five-length Derby success at Epsom. However, after winning a soft Irish Derby at odds of 1-5, he managed to win only one more race, a Group 3 at the Curragh as a four-year-old at odds of 1-3.
Dawn Approach (2013)
The horse whose 127 RPR was matched by Bow Echo. He had much better juvenile form, carrying a rating of 124 into the race, and blew his field away by five lengths at Newmarket. However, despite going off favourite every time afterwards, he managed to win just once. An obvious non-stayer when tailed off in the Derby, he scrambled home by a short head from Toronado in the St James's Palace, went down by half a length to the same horse in the Sussex and was then well beaten in the Prix Jacques le Marois and QEII.
Credit: Alan Crowhurst (Getty Images)
Night Of Thunder (2014)
Bow Echo's sire was a 40-1 winner of his Guineas from Kingman and didn't win another race at three, although he was placed in three Group 1s. He took the Lockinge as a four-year-old but was well below form on his final two outings and retired after beating only two in the Sussex.
Gleneagles (2015)
Followed up his Newmarket win with odds-on victories in the Irish version and the St James's Palace but missed the summer due to unseasonably slow ground and returned to finish only sixth of nine in the QEII. He was tailed off on his final outing, albeit in the Breeders' Cup Classic on dirt.
Galileo Gold (2016)
Won the St James's Palace following a short-priced Irish Guineas defeat but lost four times after that and completely lost his form in his final three runs, starting with an eighth of 11 in the Marois.
Churchill (2017)
Top juvenile who completed the Guineas double at the Curragh but ran four more times – three as favourite – and failed to win.
Saxon Warrior (2018)
Went up in trip after his Guineas success. He was fourth when odds-on for the Derby, third in the Irish Derby and then went close in the Eclipse and Irish Champion. He can hardly be called a complete failure but ultimately his post-Guineas record reads 0-5.
Magna Grecia (2019)
Was the second string O'Brien horse when winning his Guineas and made only two subsequent appearances, finishing fifth in the Irish version and tailed off after a break in the QEII.
Kameko (2020)
Went off 5-2 favourite for the Derby after his success in but finished only fourth to all-the-way winner Serpentine. He did win the Group 2 Joel Stakes in September but was no better than fourth in three more attempts at Group 1 company.
Poetic Flare (2021)
Typically heavily raced by Jim Bolger, running in both French and Irish versions afterwards, but was beaten in both before bouncing back with a St James's Palace success. Certainly wasn't disgraced in three more Group 1s after that but didn't win any of them.
Coroebus (2022)
Just got up to win the St James's Palace Stakes at Royal Ascot before failing to give his running when favourite for the Marois. He was in the process of making his challenge when sadly taking a fatal fall in the Prix de Moulin, so perhaps we didn't get to see how good he really was.
Chaldean (2023)
A commanding winner of his Guineas but a beaten favourite on his next two starts in the St James's Palace (second) and Marois (seventh) and then tailed off in the QEII.
Notable Speech (2024)
Still in training and every bit as good as he was when he won his Guineas, judged on his Grade 1 wins in Canada and at the Breeders' Cup last season. However, as a three-year-old he won only one of his four subsequent outings, the Sussex Stakes in July.
Ruling Court (2025)
Beat favourite Field Of Gold at Newmarket but was no match for that one when only third in the St James's Palace. He ran better in the Eclipse but was still only good enough for third before sadly succumbing to complications from laminitis the following month. Overall, the 14 winners of the 2,000 Guineas at Newmarket between Frankel and Bow Echo have run 71 times between them and managed to win just 14 – and they went off favourite or joint-favourite 40 times.
It doesn't make for great reading, although what's happened in the past doesn't necessarily predict the future. Frankel, after all, did go 8-8 after his Guineas.
This does serve as a reminder, however, that the Guineas is only the starting point in a season, and there's no guarantee that whatever happened on the first Saturday in May is going to be repeated throughout the campaign.
The racing fan in me dearly wants Bow Echo to prove the real deal, not least because it would be great for racing to have a superstar who doesn't run in the colours of Coolmore or Godolphin and instead races out of the yard of one of the brightest young trainers in Britain. I certainly can't wait to see him again.
But the hard-nosed punter in me knows that it is hard to keep a horse on the go throughout a whole campaign, especially one who has been made so obviously hard-fit so early in the season.
I'll be perfectly happy to end up on the wrong side of this, but when it comes to punting, I'll more than likely end up a layer than a player when Bow Echo next runs.
I didn’t highlight the obvious mistakes in this report but it reduced to stats that FAIL to mention that Gleneagles did something that Bow Echo isn’t trying to emulate.
To be what his trainer stated after a Dual 2000 Guineas WINNER
To be what his trainer stated after a Dual 2000 Guineas WINNER
And a St James’ Palace winner a rare feet.
Nor did Mr. pK mention HenryTheNavigator
And you pay subscription
Nor did Mr. pK mention HenryTheNavigator
And you pay subscription
Oi Paul this is for you
Delashay • May 5, 2026 9:37 AM BST
Going back to 2004
Only Four horses have done the English Irish 2000 Guineas double
Cockney Rebel 2007
HenryTheNavigator 2008
Gleneagles 2015
Churchill 2017
Only HenryTheNavigator ‘08 and Gleneagles ‘15 landed both Guineas and followed up in the St James’ Palace Stakes.
Henrythenavigator was the only horse to follow up with the Sussex Stakes.
Winning the Ascot show piece might be good for stallion value but it doesn’t as Boughey stated make Bow Echo Champion Miler
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Note Paul you or your researchers are getting sloppy in relaying the facts of 2000 Guineas winners.
HenryTheNavigator was drawn wide for the Moulin and it was enough for him not to win after an outstanding season,
Delashay • May 5, 2026 9:37 AM BST
Going back to 2004
Only Four horses have done the English Irish 2000 Guineas double
Cockney Rebel 2007
HenryTheNavigator 2008
Gleneagles 2015
Churchill 2017
Only HenryTheNavigator ‘08 and Gleneagles ‘15 landed both Guineas and followed up in the St James’ Palace Stakes.
Henrythenavigator was the only horse to follow up with the Sussex Stakes.
Winning the Ascot show piece might be good for stallion value but it doesn’t as Boughey stated make Bow Echo Champion Miler
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Note Paul you or your researchers are getting sloppy in relaying the facts of 2000 Guineas winners.
HenryTheNavigator was drawn wide for the Moulin and it was enough for him not to win after an outstanding season,
Delashay • April 17, 2026 11:28 AM BST
Samandagan is only just above Rayif with the former posting the same figure as on his run from last year.
Rayif is open to improve on that margin given we haven’t yet seen him. (* edit ended up winning the French2000)
I’m wary of Graffard because of how he operates, is he coming for the Guineas or is this a day out for and learning curve for something later at Ascot perhaps?
JohanntheGoatHurdler • April 29, 2026 8:33 AM BST
Del, do you believe in the lone gunman theory?
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You see Johann not all is as it seems when looking for winners or lays on the flat. I used to only bet in Group races because I was of the thought that trainers are truly trying. Especially in Group 1’s.
Nowdays a Group 1 will be used for a prep as we’ve seen AOB and I’d written how Graffard has leant to do this so it’s why I’m wary and look beyond.
Some clown ain’t I!
Samandagan is only just above Rayif with the former posting the same figure as on his run from last year.
Rayif is open to improve on that margin given we haven’t yet seen him. (* edit ended up winning the French2000)
I’m wary of Graffard because of how he operates, is he coming for the Guineas or is this a day out for and learning curve for something later at Ascot perhaps?
JohanntheGoatHurdler • April 29, 2026 8:33 AM BST
Del, do you believe in the lone gunman theory?
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You see Johann not all is as it seems when looking for winners or lays on the flat. I used to only bet in Group races because I was of the thought that trainers are truly trying. Especially in Group 1’s.
Nowdays a Group 1 will be used for a prep as we’ve seen AOB and I’d written how Graffard has leant to do this so it’s why I’m wary and look beyond.
Some clown ain’t I!
Talk of New York looking a monster now, cant see Bow Echo finishing in front if they both meet in the SJP. .... imo.
He did look good for sure and it’s funny how it all works out, ain’t it after the trials etc…
It’s a different level Ascot and Bow Echo looked a notch above everything else we’ve seen.
He may test him, wasn’t impressed with the Irish Guineas and the French Guineas didn’t look great but I’d not write off completely because of Hankelow and Komorembi yesterday, but I does look a grade below and Talk looks an exciting addition.
Title Role made the Greenham and him from Dubai look bad but showed that to be all wrong in Germany and Lord Clover’s form behind Hawk Mountain was boosted too.
It’s a different level Ascot and Bow Echo looked a notch above everything else we’ve seen.
He may test him, wasn’t impressed with the Irish Guineas and the French Guineas didn’t look great but I’d not write off completely because of Hankelow and Komorembi yesterday, but I does look a grade below and Talk looks an exciting addition.
Title Role made the Greenham and him from Dubai look bad but showed that to be all wrong in Germany and Lord Clover’s form behind Hawk Mountain was boosted too.
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