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JP didnt sound like he wants to run him. Ante Post backers sweating.
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deffo 100% not to run if declared non runner yfdsc
could tip shat from a spade TOM,s 4 to 5 2 star bet NR
should be aiming for good ground & that's what we've had
don't like f off home
don't like f off home
What a farce, would he have run if Jonbon not available? Course he would.
Mullins talking rubbish, his he talking all his horses out today ?
soft ground horses had their chances earlier in the ssn ffs
100% all because Jonbon is running, JP fav horse
Mullins towing the party line
Mullins towing the party line
Rare to hear Wilie sound like that - seemed genuinely angry.
Mar 12, 2026 -- 4:21PM, strontium wrote:
Rare to hear Wilie sound like that - seemed genuinely angry.
and he's bang out of order
A lot more ante post vouchers in the bin-not mine you understand.
Yes, I agree Wonders. CoC has an impossible job when the weather forecast is wrong. And this is supposed to be a spring festival.
yes a spring festival
a test of speed & jumping at speed
not gowran
a test of speed & jumping at speed
not gowran
glad those comments were made in public because it shows you what goes on behind close doors
people with vested interests trying to influence decision makers
people with vested interests trying to influence decision makers
But for Jonbon running not so long ago - he also had a hard race - I'd be backing him today. What a shame for FTF? The ground could be to his liking tomorrow when the heavens have opened.
Every owner pays the same entry fee. Some horses prefer good ground, some soft and a few heavy but nature decides which ones get their wish, not big players leaning on the CoC. If they had left Fact To File in tomorrow they might have had the going they want.
I think that's absolutely despicable from mcmANUS and I have had zero ante-post interest in Fact To File or the Ryanair.
I cannot recall a horse being withdrawn due to GOOD ground - can anyone else?
We haven't seen fast ground since the late 80s when Rare Holiday won the Triumph.
He said guardedly on Tuesday to Matt Chapman that a lot could happen between now and Thursday when asked about Jonbon's
possible participation - he KNEW then what he was planning!
I read on Twátter that mcmANUS said to McCoy that he loves Jonbon and would be gutted to get chinned by his own horse.
Disgusting from that **** - absolute contempt for punters and that's precisely why I haven't indulged in AP markets for 20+ years.
I cannot recall a horse being withdrawn due to GOOD ground - can anyone else?
We haven't seen fast ground since the late 80s when Rare Holiday won the Triumph.
He said guardedly on Tuesday to Matt Chapman that a lot could happen between now and Thursday when asked about Jonbon's
possible participation - he KNEW then what he was planning!
I read on Twátter that mcmANUS said to McCoy that he loves Jonbon and would be gutted to get chinned by his own horse.
Disgusting from that **** - absolute contempt for punters and that's precisely why I haven't indulged in AP markets for 20+ years.
Agreed. It's a bad look and I've no skin in the game. At least be transparent about it.
Did the clerk water the course last night? If not, it was the correct decision. The present ground is conducive to racing, and not too fast of risky either.
AR - he's cost punters a fortune in TWO AP markets! Despicable
AR - he's cost punters a fortune in TWO AP markets! Despicable
He was claiming nobody complains about watering just before heavy rain. lol
I finally learned my lesson with AP betting when I backed Hardy Eustace at 40/1 for the
Stayers...only for him to be rerouted late on and bolt up in the Champion Hurdle at 33/1
Stayers...only for him to be rerouted late on and bolt up in the Champion Hurdle at 33/1
great insight from daryl jacob
"NH horses like galloping on soft ground"
"NH horses like galloping on soft ground"
Apart from anything else, this is typical going for Cheltenham. Probably should have called it good from day 1 though.
Delashay • March 12, 2026 2:40 PM GMT
They knew what the Groynd and forecast was at the beginning of the festival. They’ve even suggested that Bonjon would go to Aintree knowing what the ground would be.
Report• Quote • Block User Delashay • March 12, 2026 2:42 PM GMT
We’re less than two hours away from it, a decision should have been made, it’s a p***take and what use is having the Chump on ITV he tells the viewers nothing.
They knew what the Groynd and forecast was at the beginning of the festival. They’ve even suggested that Bonjon would go to Aintree knowing what the ground would be.
Report• Quote • Block User Delashay • March 12, 2026 2:42 PM GMT
We’re less than two hours away from it, a decision should have been made, it’s a p***take and what use is having the Chump on ITV he tells the viewers nothing.
That miserable looking munt could of told people before the start of the show, I’ve not had a bet but the ITV are assswipes
Mar 12, 2026 -- 4:59PM, xmoneyx wrote:
hurts e/w backers just as much2 place
play on here
Mar 12, 2026 -- 4:58PM, Cider wrote:
Apart from anything else, this is typical going for Cheltenham. Probably should have called it good from day 1 though.
yes...and g/f on the xc
A well deserved win for Heartwood. Some punters have made a killing. And, the nemesis of Cheltenham for Jonbon again. Another 2nd for him here.
Really wanted Jonbon to win but fcúk you mcmANUS - just desserts - it's obvious now that Fact To File would've slaughtered them!
shocking level for a grade 1
today's "feature"
on not paddy's thursday
today's "feature"
on not paddy's thursday
Thank goodness I left Jonbon alone. This race was an afterthought, and he'd had a hard race at Ascot last time.
I've said it before, I'll say it again.
Jonbon doesn't enjoy Cheltenham (no matter what trip they try him at). They should have saved him for another day.
The withdrawal of Fact to File massively backfired in their faces, and rightly so.
Please don't run Jonbon at Cheltenham again.
Jonbon doesn't enjoy Cheltenham (no matter what trip they try him at). They should have saved him for another day.
The withdrawal of Fact to File massively backfired in their faces, and rightly so.
Please don't run Jonbon at Cheltenham again.
All the talk about what race Fact To File was to run in!
Horse should have been withdrawn this morning.
What’s the Rule 4 on that now?
Horse should have been withdrawn this morning.
What’s the Rule 4 on that now?
impossible123 • March 12, 2026 4:10 PM GMT
Thank goodness I left Jonbon alone. This race was an afterthought, and he'd had a hard race at Ascot last time.
Impossible - it wasn’t an after thought they ripped it out of everyone! Was never gonna go Gold Cup, they new the ground and forecast on Tuesday and weren’t complaining about the ground back then!
Thank goodness I left Jonbon alone. This race was an afterthought, and he'd had a hard race at Ascot last time.
Impossible - it wasn’t an after thought they ripped it out of everyone! Was never gonna go Gold Cup, they new the ground and forecast on Tuesday and weren’t complaining about the ground back then!
The weird thing was, I could see clods of turf being kicked up by the horses in various parts of the course during the Ryanair.
Excellent news.
The monopoly was getting very tiresome.
The monopoly was getting very tiresome.
He's probably more pi$$ed at JP for telling him not to run, especially after the result.
And yet he ran one on the Stayers and then in the Ryanair, he also admitted he hadn't walked the course and JP told him FTF might be a doubt due to the ground.
He wasn't complaining about the ground when he was having all those winners over the first 2 days.
Tom Collins
Can we put Fact To File back in the race? Only beat Heart Wood by nine lengths in the Ryanair last year
Can we put Fact To File back in the race? Only beat Heart Wood by nine lengths in the Ryanair last year
I think JP said he'd leave the decision to run or not to Mr Mullins. He can then over-rule Mr Mullins. But, he'd not say the horse would not run prior (on tv).
Imagine trainers of yesteryear (Winter, Dickinson et al) carrying on like this. If the ground is safe run the f00kers otherwise dont bother coming.
didn't bother JP when istabraq was winning 3 champion hurdles
I'd be curious to know the stats regarding falls/fatalities this year compared to previous years.
11 course records the year he won his 3rd on genuine g/f
good ground is perfectly safe
its just not suitable for willie
that's fine...off you go back to ireland
its just not suitable for willie
that's fine...off you go back to ireland
It's the age-old question isn't it...is sport just about winning, or is it about being "sporting"?
Before the race Hendo was saying we came because he’s doing so well at home, now he’s maybe had hard races in bad ground!
Make up your lies!
So it’s ok to run BonJon on ground that’s testing and he doesn’t like?!
Make up your lies!
So it’s ok to run BonJon on ground that’s testing and he doesn’t like?!
in 10,20,30 years time nobody will give a f about FTF
Mar 12, 2026 -- 5:32PM, wondersobright wrote:
in 10,20,30 years time nobody will give a f about FTF
but istabraq forever
FTF hasn’t put back to back wins in apart from 3 early on in its career
**** off Mullins
You're not allowed into Cheltenham in 2027
What will you do with your stupid horses then?
You're not allowed into Cheltenham in 2027
What will you do with your stupid horses then?
don't think hendo has a clue about race reading said JONBON jumped beautifuly when he plainly hit 2 or 3 and lost lengths to winner at 2 of them,that's the 2nd /3rd time he's said one of his horse has jumped beautifully,think he said of lulamba at Newbury when he clearly made 2 or 3 errors
1tp, Henderson has an eye condition, he can barely see his hand in front of his face.
don't go sh1tting on Jonbon. 20 wins 8 seconds, never out the first two. It is remarkable.
He wants further than 2m these but they gave it a go and it was a better race for it.
He wants further than 2m these but they gave it a go and it was a better race for it.
which is his very much job and henderson does a good job
northanlite • March 12, 2026 11:34 PM GMT
don't go sh1tting on Jonbon. 20 wins 8 seconds, never out the first two. It is remarkable.
He wants further than 2m these but they gave it a go and it was a better race for it.
He’s been winning egg and spoon races over here, that was until Mullins brought over something to challenge him before Cheltenham where he’s shown his true level of form.
The 2 mile chaser division is weak so his record reads well beating inferior opposition, but he’s always found out at the top level.
That race yesterday was ruined by their antics, agree with everyone tell ‘em to take their flags with ‘em, sing when they’re winning merchants!
don't go sh1tting on Jonbon. 20 wins 8 seconds, never out the first two. It is remarkable.
He wants further than 2m these but they gave it a go and it was a better race for it.
He’s been winning egg and spoon races over here, that was until Mullins brought over something to challenge him before Cheltenham where he’s shown his true level of form.
The 2 mile chaser division is weak so his record reads well beating inferior opposition, but he’s always found out at the top level.
That race yesterday was ruined by their antics, agree with everyone tell ‘em to take their flags with ‘em, sing when they’re winning merchants!
Jonbon is an admirably consistent horse who has become very popular with the public. No-one is criticising the horse, but rather the behaviour of connections yesterday.
They were desperate to get a Festival win for him (despite the ratings clearly showing that he runs his worst races there and the fact he'd already had 2 hard races this season), so they manipulated the race to try and achieve this.
It backfired and I am glad it did. Connections have shown their true colours with their childish and petulant behaviour.
Jonbon has been well placed to win some weak Graded races (despite spending most of his career running over the wrong trip.)
If you look at the horses he has beaten (Pic d'Orhy, Thistle Ask, Protektorat, Energumene, Quilixios, Boothill, El Fabiolo, Conflated), combined with the fact that he has always fallen short at the sport's flagship meeting, you'd struggle to put him in the same echelon as the greats (Sprinter Sacre, Moscow Flyer, Master Minded, Flying Bolt, Dessie).
They were desperate to get a Festival win for him (despite the ratings clearly showing that he runs his worst races there and the fact he'd already had 2 hard races this season), so they manipulated the race to try and achieve this.
It backfired and I am glad it did. Connections have shown their true colours with their childish and petulant behaviour.
Jonbon has been well placed to win some weak Graded races (despite spending most of his career running over the wrong trip.)
If you look at the horses he has beaten (Pic d'Orhy, Thistle Ask, Protektorat, Energumene, Quilixios, Boothill, El Fabiolo, Conflated), combined with the fact that he has always fallen short at the sport's flagship meeting, you'd struggle to put him in the same echelon as the greats (Sprinter Sacre, Moscow Flyer, Master Minded, Flying Bolt, Dessie).
Ground conditions ideal today for Fact To file. Isnt it ironic.
"The rain came in the nick of time", said Mangan."He probably wouldn't have been running without it but I'm very happy now, delighted". (8.33 a.m.)
Spillane's Tower declared non-runner at 10.52
You couldn't make it up.
Spillane's Tower declared non-runner at 10.52
You couldn't make it up.
Jonbon was well backed prior, and into fav on the day of the day. Imagine one with inside info a couple of days prior the race given Jonbon would be a runner regardless. One could lay off and into a big "grin" regardless of the result and Jonbon's adversity to Cheltenham.
I'd not run Jonbon yesterday. He'd a hard race at Ascot and his adversity to Cheltenham. I liken his participation to Constitution Hill running at Punchestown post his fall in the Champion Hurdle at Cheltenham earlier. It was an absolute no-go for me.
I'd not run Jonbon yesterday. He'd a hard race at Ascot and his adversity to Cheltenham. I liken his participation to Constitution Hill running at Punchestown post his fall in the Champion Hurdle at Cheltenham earlier. It was an absolute no-go for me.
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