Six nations

What did the Joks beat England by?

The chap who does the rugby in the post points out it’s the biggest handicap start Scotland have had at murrayfield for 20 years and goes on to tip France to score more than 35 points which they did ,I shouldn’t think anybody would believe France score 35 plus and get beat

(We)as I’m an England fan

I wouldn’t fancy betting on 80/90 minutes on rugby or football .

Remember when the Germans trounced us in the World Cup?

Well I did the dirty and backed the score 4-1 and 5-1 the former paid over 150/1

Hype, nationalism, heart strings etc ….

‘ Aight tea leaf waaaa go wann

“We go to Paris next week in bits”…. The commentary

Can we add that into aftertimers?

Crazy how far sport has fallen, think of the heady days of household names. Guscott Carling Johnson et al. Not watched a game of rugby for many years.

how did they bet pre game?

Two of life's pleasures have been (almost) completely hollowed out. Sport and comedy. I suppose you could add movies to that as a third, too.

Italy are 13/8 on to win in Cardiff next week who would ever have thought the day would come when Italy were odds on to win a six nations game away from home .

Some good knowledge from thelatarps, I didn’t know that the All Blacks style derived from the Scottish way, but I appreciate the way they do it. It’s ruthless.

But that’s what I’ve been trying to say regarding the rules the ricking seems different, players aren’t cleared out of the way, there’s a lot of laying down waiting for the play to move on.
I’ve never seen so many yellow cards, safety factor is taking something out of the game. They’re consenting adults let them go at it!

And we’ve had many great players aside from Guscot, Neil Back was a terrier, Lewis Moody ol’ crazy horse another favourite (so sad to hear he has that cruel disease.)

I like Curry too, the type that fights with his face!M (as Jim Watt the boxing commentator would have said!)

One things for sure the team needs a clear out, the likes of Genge ain’t good enough, been bullied by the South Africans time and again in the scrum when we’ve met.

Rugby League has always been seen as a working class sport as per its roots, as opposed to union which has been the preserve of the middle and upper classes.
Ten of the starters for the England team yesterday went to private schools and three others to grammar.

League went professional 100 years before Union did as it was difficult for players to commit to playing without a financial incentive to compensate them for time off work, injuries sustained whilst playing etc.

I have always watched both codes but find union a harder watch these days due to reasons outlined in my earlier post. League on the other hand is much easier to follow, especially for the casual viewer, as the rules are much more straightforward. No rucks, mauls, line outs etc.

TV viewing figures are pretty good for League i believe, i read a report some time ago that stated about half of the viewers of Sky games were from the south which was interesting, considering virtually all of the teams are northern based.

Please excuse that I boringly repeat some of the post I put up about a year ago and support much of what has been said here. Rugby Union has gone vastly downhill as a spectator sport since professionalism came in and law changes made the set pieces non-competitive. 95% of set pieces are won by the team putting in. You might as well save time and restart with a play-the-ball (that's a tap penalty which must be picked up) as in rugby league. Some might have time to waste watching 20 successive rucks with the ball advancing 20 yards: I don't. Fail to see any attraction. Rugby League (miles ahead of Union in its law making) saw the problem years ago. You get 5 tackles (in union that would be 5 rucks) and if you don't immediately run the ball, the opposition is given possession.

The reason for the resurgent Scotland is that they are making fewer mistakes. They don't allow many interceptions, don'f drop the ball, don't fluff easy kicks etc in the way they did 30 years ago (might be a result of professionalism!) They also use laters who can run the ball and beat a man.

I now never watch club rugby and only Scottish Internationals (plus maybe a few other). Shame: 40 years ago the 5 Nations was the highlight of the sporting year. Now (with Grand National) it has sunk into mediocrity. The tradesmen, teacers teachers and lawyers of Scotland against the ex-public school boys of England. Fabulous. Want to see a proper rugby game? Try Utube and Wales v Scotland 1982.

3 home wins would be my best guess

Ireland are in charge over Scotland.

19-7 after 27 minutes.