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sageform
22 Feb 26 11:21
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The initial thread on this seems to have been pulled but It has been one of the best watches for a while.

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By:
ashleigh
When: 22 Feb 26 11:27
Was until Ben Keith came on.Sad
By:
brassneck
When: 22 Feb 26 11:29
Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.
By:
Cider
When: 22 Feb 26 11:31
A lot of talk from this character Keith but Starsports sacked my account off after a couple of winners.

I don't blame them as I wouldn't lay my bets, but no need for all the pretence and bullshine. They are only interested in laying losers or people who aren't price conscious that they can scalp.
By:
formoftheace
When: 22 Feb 26 11:38
Luck is overrated imo….takes people to task then backs off.
By:
Cider
When: 22 Feb 26 11:43
He is infected by the 'high status' disease. Keith was leaning toward saying something mildly negative about Harrington's tenure just then. Can't have that though as she has a protected characteristic, so he shut it down immediately. Plus of course the other condition that champagne socialists are deeply afflicted by, gross hypocrisy.
By:
uptheirons
When: 22 Feb 26 11:45
Ben would be the first to admit that he doesn't want people he cannot beat.
Having been closed several times in other peoples names for hardly winning a fortune I was surprised to hear in early 2022 that Star were taking people on and laying decent bets.
I rejoined and lasted three months before they drew stumps.
I don't think for a moment that it is Ben's money but that is only an opinion.
An interesting watch though.
By:
Cider
When: 22 Feb 26 11:49
Yep but he was talking for 30 minutes, at no point was their any indication that their priority is filtering out anyone who knows what they are doing and retaining the mugs. And Luck swerved it completely. Perhaps he hasn't been throttled to £1 max liability after less than 10 bets.

At least dig into what being a bookmaker means in 2026 (ergo, not making a book!)
By:
howard
When: 22 Feb 26 11:52
Ive had a fair winning run with them this year but recently asked for £1000 Carlisle United and was offered £50 which I turned down.  They were never in front and got beat.  Grin
By:
Cider
When: 22 Feb 26 11:57
The bet £3.65 retort was the perfect opportunity to broach the subject.

Surely the only thing anyone watching is interested in from a bookmaker is whether they will lay your bets or not. I don't really give a shiit how clever his sister may or may not be!
By:
uptheirons
When: 22 Feb 26 12:33
Cider,he did say at the start of the interview that,"can I beat this person".
By:
differentdrum
When: 22 Feb 26 12:34
Nobody in the media cares two hoots about bans and restrictions. They could almost be said to be hand in hand with the bookmakers.
By:
Cider
When: 22 Feb 26 13:05
uti that is rhetoric.

compare and contrast that puff piece Keith interview with Cruddace's one the other day.
By:
1st time poster
When: 22 Feb 26 13:14
that tale/story that Keith got extra time to tell,trust me left my face far more IS THAT IT ,than lucky,s looked,
note to oneself never get stuck in a kitchen,lift witn Ben Keith,
everyman and his gog has a man cave with a pool table in it these days but KEITH saw it as a signed youi,d made it in to the bigtyime,LUCKY couldn't wait to shut him up

still didn't get the story is BEN KEITH just extremely thick confusing SHIPS with CHIPS or did I miss something ?
By:
jimnast
When: 22 Feb 26 14:07
Enjoyed the show sageform and what a nice gesture from Buckley regarding the girl with the polo mints .
By:
Cider
When: 22 Feb 26 14:18
Not the only story with holes on the show today.
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 22 Feb 26 14:45
keith only wants losing punters closed my account and i was losing with them
By:
uptheirons
When: 22 Feb 26 15:13
Like many Bookmakers they have been heavily fined by the Anti Gambling Commission.
By:
Busyfool
When: 22 Feb 26 15:30
restrictions are one thing but the affordability disaster can be blamed on the gc. an absolute shower

keith hasnt aslways been so risk-averse. maybe become too corporate. he lives in tony morris's old gaff in marylebone
By:
uptheirons
When: 22 Feb 26 15:35
He was certainly risk averse when he was betting with his own money pre 2020
By:
Cider
When: 22 Feb 26 16:27
It's quite glaring though for me. So you get a boss of a racecourse group on, you'd expect them to get passively attacked for lack of prizemoney, questionable facilities, prioritising profit, taking out of the sport et al. That happened.

What the one thing your audience would want a boss of a betting company to be challenged on? That didn't happen.
By:
sageform
When: 22 Feb 26 20:30
I did try to post a follow up earlier but for some reason i couldn't.
By:
sageform
When: 22 Feb 26 20:37
That worked. I thought I must have been banned from using the Forum. No idea about on course betting these days as I have not done any for 5 years. Interesting that he thought that people were going back on course to have a bet since the checks were brought in. So long as Betfair charge 2% and allow in running bets I will be quite happy.
By:
howard
When: 23 Feb 26 12:53
No prob for you but when someone wants monkey or grand bets and you can only deposit £100 a month....
By:
uptheirons
When: 23 Feb 26 13:04
The only advice I would give is to leave your money in here instead of constantly drawing out, Howard.
It is the deposits that get you restricted
By:
howard
When: 23 Feb 26 13:52
I don't draw anything out. But I can't afford too many £500/£1000 losers that's the problem. I can afford it but you know what I mean.
By:
sageform
When: 23 Feb 26 17:59
If I had four or five figure sums in a bookie account, I would take out insurance! Who knows when one of the big ones goes bankrupt. Take it out overnight and put it back next day.
By:
uptheirons
When: 23 Feb 26 18:14
There is more chance of the next Pope being an Israeli than BF going skint,sage
By:
Cider
When: 19 Apr 26 09:31
Luck giving hannah spencer lots of credibility Cry
By:
Cider
When: 19 Apr 26 09:42
You can't have a rational argument with irrational people, chasing twatter likes. Giving them credibility in a serious context is exactly what they want.
By:
Cider
When: 19 Apr 26 11:08
A breakout of common sense on the show, with Andrew Black this time. Two weeks in a row now!
By:
formoftheace
When: 19 Apr 26 11:12
Shocked…..

Deary me…..bred more undesirable types inventing the pink click imo….
By:
uptheirons
When: 19 Apr 26 11:18
Without the Layers there would be no Exchange you moron
By:
formoftheace
When: 19 Apr 26 11:22
Exactly scrapiron……

Without the pink button Scrapiron there would be no members…..

Destroyed the betting ring scrapiron……you being a big pro should know that,scrapiron…..bla
By:
formoftheace
When: 19 Apr 26 11:24
A slurry pond was arrested in plastic Dubai recently…..it liked pink (allegedly) scrapiron…..
By:
uptheirons
When: 19 Apr 26 11:27
What I know is that pre Exchanges,the Magic Sign would stroll along the Rails and shorten unraced horses they knew had no chance to suck in Betting Shop fodder like you.
Aceform now believes he is Patrick Veitch after finally tipping a couple of winners.
Naturally,there is no P&L on his pointless threadLaugh
By:
Cider
When: 19 Apr 26 11:29
That would be the same if betfair didn't exist. As with many parts of modern life, the internet and smartphones have changed things forever.
By:
uptheirons
When: 19 Apr 26 11:32
Of course it would Cider but unfortunately the brainless one fails to see it
By:
formoftheace
When: 19 Apr 26 11:38
I give scrap a 24/1 winner and that’s the thanks…….dreadful individual…
By:
formoftheace
When: 19 Apr 26 11:41
I wouldn’t like to be Patrick Veitch tbh….

I have met him on a few racecourse visits……certainly no hero figure but a decent mannered spud….imv…

I saved him from fainting at York,if you know him ask him…
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