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Not sure about that ride stabemate wins
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Mullins - similar to AOB - whne they have multiple entries - as they do often - any of them can realistically win. In fact probably worth laying the favourite or Mullins' pick at the shortest odds!
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Way too keen throughout.
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It was pulling a bit but did drop it back before bend
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Stayed on a bit at the end. The extra two furlongs and the hill may suit. Galopin emptied worryingly. Will he have a reserve tank to help him at Cheltenham.? Would personally love to see him win a third!
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Age catches up with everybody,Honcho.
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I know. Just love the horse and we can dream, can’t we?
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GW was keen enough early on, that would be a concern in a GC, think the Ryanair must come into calculations now and is going some way to holding up FTF's price on the exchanges, I think GW will be in the shorter race.
GW had his chance in the KG, it wasn't strongly run and was set up for him but in a great race he just missed. |
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I would worry for anything thats had a hard race at the DRF it could well come back to haunt them at Cheltenham
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have a feeling that following DRF form will be poorhouse in cheltenham ground conditions could be v different come march
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Lol above 2 stupid posts
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6 weeks is a good rest
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I would have thought so but I have no experience at all in training steeplechasers.
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fill your boots then
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I hope GW goes gold cup route and will go very close
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Everyone seems to be missing the point, especially Bentring...........horses are living creatures with brains and not machines, therefore not only can they be affected physically after hard races on bad ground but also and most importantly, mentally, they dont forget, so when it comes to the Cheltenham Festival they remember their last race and can decide enough is enough once it gets to the tough part of trying to win that particular race, you DON'T just bottom a horse physically but you do so mentally as well.
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Indeed Manuel. I would be VERY wary of backing ANYTHING at Cheltenham that ran over the last 2 days. English trainers have to be licking their lips. Some of the ante post prices offered are truly laughable. Sadly some unaware mugs will plough in.
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Totally Slickster
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But racing on fast ground can be even more exhausting as races are run faster and jockeys don't worry so much about running out of petrol in the last 4 furlongs. Gaelic Warrior seemed to empty quickly yesterday after pulling too hard and looking all over the winner 2 out. Off a quicker pace at Kempton GW seemed to stay better. Not sure about an extra 2 furlongs up the Cheltenham hill.
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The win of FTF has left connections a conundrum. GW or FTF in The Ryanair? Both are trained by Mr Mullins whose motto at the Festival has always been the most winnable race for his charge. As such, FTF has more chance than GW to win The Ryanair without a doubt, with or without GW.
I still believe FTF has a lesser chance in the Gold Cup. He might not even stay the distance or up the hill despite yesterday's performance. Yesterday could be an unexplained exception or the form was inferior in comparison to the King George. I think GW will have a better chance in the Gold Cup. He rallied again in the King George at Kempton. But, very unlikely both will run in the same race. |
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Above posts talk about getting tired (slickster and Manual) the only 2 races that showed that thet were tired in G1's were champion hurdle and Arkle also the g2 mares bumper.
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Bentring, I said I would worry about any horse that had a hard race and it could come back to haunt them at Cheltenham, you in your ignorance replied it was a stupid post, care to explain which part was stupid.
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Might,shmite,Manuel.
You gave your opinion and bentring gave his. Neither are "The Ten Commandmants" handed down to Moses |
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According to the genius Mel Brooks there were fifteen but a tablet shattered on the way down!
![]() “Haunt” is a rather exaggerating word imo. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Dublin winners will be delighted, surely, to have won very welcome prizes there. I wouldn’t think any winning conns. would be more than disappointed ( yet philosophical ) about losing at Cheltenham, were they to do so. I don’t care what age stats. say, whatever beats Galopin come March will win the G.C. So many involved with clear stamina doubts, which he hasn’t. |
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Manual obviously you cannot remember past DRF races where hard races were had but didn't stop winning at Cheltenham
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It was an opinion, nothing stupid about it, just an opinion and you focus on horses winning after the DRF but then the counter to that is how many didnt win after a hard race at the DRF, maybe put your point next time rather than referring to a post as stupid.
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Manuel is right,doubtful you will see any of these win at Cheltenham tbh…..the placed and unplaced will probably win a few because they were looked after in the dreadful conditions……
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Found this comment made by Nicky Henderson about Lulamba running today in relation to previous discussion on this thread, Henderson said in his Unibet blog: "Everything is good with him, but I do hope the ground isn’t going to be desperately testing as that really wouldn’t be the best idea to give him an unnecessarily hard race before Cheltenham, comments welcome.
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If so, the sensible option would be not to run. But, that's Hendo for you. I think it's time he hangs up his trainer boots. I hope he'd keep schtum about Sir Gino until the horse is out-of-the-woods and recovering.
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Now Implausible knows more than Hendo
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You seem to be on a crusade MANUEL to convince us about the possibilities of DRF races leaving their mark on Cheltenham entrants. We know that is a possibility, we are seasoned racewatchers. Being such we also know that some horses may handle it. Thank you.
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Its just a very interesting comment from the top trainer in Britain regarding one of his star horses, no more no less and your very welcome.
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I thought that Nicky came across well before the Lulamba race. Experience of racing under pressure was more important than the risk of heavy ground in the end but it was a close call. The horse seemed to take a long time to wake up which is not good in the Arkle where they will go very fast.
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A complete opposite to Altior then. I think Altior was slow to get going only in his later racing days.
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He did sage I agree. He’s never likely to go off quickly but is an exciting prospect in a mouth-watering race.
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Lulamba and Romeo look vulnerable to the same type of issue and we just don't know where we are with Kopek and whether he'll even make the race.
Kargeese has definitely shown that she is very quick and accurate over the fences and was getting away from Romeo continually on landing and we assume that the pace will be quick and she'll have to get the stayers out of their comfort zone and force mistakes but isn't there also the possibility of the tactic of setting a slower pace allowing her to save her speed for later allowing her to nip away late on before the stayers can get going, there's two ways to potentially get the stayers beat, force them to go quicker they they are comfortable with early on or the complete opposite and do them for toe late, they'll need the race to be run just right over this trip. |
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I have always thought that a searching pace aided the stamina horses? I think Lulamba can probably go a bit faster earlier anyway. If he has to.
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A searching pace aids a horse's stamina providing the elastic doesn't snap, the easiest way to get a stayer beat is to force them beyond that point earlier in the race and then they won't be alround later on in the race, when you see Lulamba and Romeo beginning to be niggled like we did, that's the symptoms but it didn't go far enough and there stamina then came into play, if Kargeese was able to turn that screw a little tighter it would have likely pushed Romeo over the edge.
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It certainly didn't prevent Jango Baie from winning the Arkle last year,did it.
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