Dartrey off 56

They knew. Nice free money for the team

76 tested today

Taking it on with one of the 3 Gold's, probably the Portman one or and the De Foy Horse

in a much better race with jockey downgrade
southwell form translating to newky another neg

prob 1 for next time after a defeat

monarchs gold gifted that southwell race wasn't impressive imo

Connections have taken the 2nd over to Meydan and even had a crack at a group race LTO so they must think he's quite useful. Also his a debut win has a very solid form look to it. I'd have him favourite so I've played at the current price

you've completely misunderstood the point I'm making

Blah blah blah what point are you making then?

Sounds like you wasn't impressed by MG at Southwell and you're taking it on, right? Do you want to give us one you're backing or laying or will you wait until after the race to tell us?

why the attitude?

have given my opinion on a horse that's all

Whippin Piccadilly • January 16, 2026 2:47 PM GMT
Connections have taken the 2nd over to Meydan and even had a crack at a group race LTO so they must think he's quite useful.

clearly its better raw form than most have especially the front 2 but cant see how its relevant as its hcap

The attitude is because I understood you. You wasn't impressed by MG LTO and that's fair enough.

that 2nd horse @ southwell had no interest in winning that race amo horse dictated a crawl, came across to the favoured rail & fell in imo
how they arrive at 92 answers on a postcard

Whippin Piccadilly • January 16, 2026 3:19 PM GMT
The attitude is because I understood you.

because you disagree imo

Trainer intent is something I implement into my form reading. As you know, form reading isn't an exact science

I agree but the 92 has come from stemming

and to have the amo horse as fav being a hcap you infer that 92 is a lenient starting point

I don't disagree. I understood you and gave my reasoning on why MG could be ok off his mark although I accept its no gift! I'm not even that bullish on one in particular because I like 3 but then I also3couldn't rule out a few of the others!

Not exactly lenient but I feel he has the scope to improve beyond his current mark

I see him drifting from 7.4-7.6 but gl if you play

Whippin Piccadilly • January 16, 2026 3:33 PM GMT
I feel he has the scope to improve

only 3 runs so has for sure

Already played at average odds of 7.6

Place lay must be

gone off 9

dartrey off the board as well wd fw

Already had the unkindest cut looks like Triumph next a bit of sludge and winter fun.

And? Well done for aftertiming the drift? It's impossible to always back one at the very best price it ever trades at. And there was I thinking you knew a bit about the game. I wanted to take the the fav on and even though the winner was on my long shortlist, I got it wrong.

aftertiming the drift it was 7.4-7.6 when I posted that

Went off 9! Yeah, and?

you had a bad bet under the odds, had option to trade out given the info you didn't...learn & move on

Osbourne 6 wins frum 8......sweet jesus

Yeah, because you knew it was going to dirt out to 9. And of course horses that drift never win

Yeah, well done Freddie at least you posted what your play was PRE RACE

Just watched the replay and MG was hampered and stumbled leaving the stalls So for a Horse who likes to races prominently, it was pretty much race over at the start. I still believe he's on a mark he can go close off but it would be nice if the handicapper dropped him a couple of pounds

learn & move on wp

harder to dominate hcap also newky straight track & southwell round the bend chalk & cheese

started off on 92 going to need all of that promised scope

What is there to learn? I wanted to take Dartrey on and the my first choice selection lost any chance he had at the start.

a lot of in form horses that race today be 92 again next time imo

Whippin Piccadilly • January 16, 2026 5:17 PM GMT
What is there to learn?

that should ring alarm bells for you

5 (7)
1½ [3¼]
Runner Jacket
2. Monarch's Gold  6/1
Rowan Scott
Kevin Philippart De Foy
3    94    92    –    –    –   
Hampered and stumbled soon after start, towards rear up the centre, kept on inside final furlong, not reach leaders (op 11/2 tchd 13/2)

wanted to take dartrey on dartrey had already taken a walk in the market by the time you began posting so let's not

wondersobright • January 16, 2026 5:18 PM GMT
Whippin Piccadilly • January 16, 2026 5:17 PM GMT
What is there to learn?

that should ring alarm bells for you

Should it? Care to prove it? I'm happy to do seasonal thread over the Flat season if you do likewise. He's another pre race bet I'm very happy to place....you'll decline to do so! 

I'll take that as a no? Just as thought! Another Billy big balls who's got the game all sown up  AFTER the race

do 1 for 2026 you are on

your running tally -1

will pick up thread tomorrow all my business today done catch you later

Yeah, that's fine. Any plays for you at Wolves this evening?

OK see ya tomorrow

haven't looked over flat cards today do you like anything?

Only looked at the Gosden one at Lingers. Not my kind of price though. A couple at Southwell are mildly interesting. Are we starting an official thread for this then wonders? How does The Whippin v Wonders 2026 Flat Thread - Playing for the Inaugural Betfair Forum Daddy Trophy sound to you?

maybe not the 2nd part

either use this or start 1 in your comps if you like

score draw extra time

Ok just the first part lol