How weak was Nico there

skeltons oh grace drifted 4/1 > 20 pre yest..pi$$ed in.

uptheirons 22 Dec 25 13:51 
"Posh Boy"?
What has that to do with anything,Aceform?

Posh boy posh trainer La di da old chap……clique……

You must notice a certain rider you don’t rate iron,or are you oblivious to all glued fixed in running making millions….?

Some individuals don’t like Rob Hornby….I think he’s decent…..Bla…..

the next time one of nicos drifts i expect you'll be laying the arse off it ? happy days !

Possibly,if the price is false…..

thats the only time you should be betting. back or lay

Aceform could not Lay an egg and spews anti class bile with regularity.
A lifetime losing mug

Rico-Dangleflaps 22 Dec 25 14:22 
skeltons oh grace drifted 4/1 > 20 pre yest..pi$$ed in.

Oh Clare

yes clare./.new it was a splitarse.

I think a few are missing the point here.

Forget the drift, forget the market completely.

The point was the strength of the ride and urgency of the ride was the issue. Weak and whip not used (obviously can be reasons we are unsure of re the use of the persuader).

He was weak, and if that is all he has in full drive mode then Nico and the stable will lose more close finishes than he wins.

A cumbersome individual tbh…..

Certainly not poetry in motion……

I could name three northern riders 7lb better imv….

Danny McMenamin ….

Craig Nicol…..

Sean Quinlan…..

I have no doubt they would do the job no problem……

Horatio,try to learn the difference between being weak and trying to win with the minimum of effort and messing it up

I doubt the person in Q would p on you iron if you were starting to kindle….

I've just watched the race again and when you combine arrogance, with being weak in the finish, coming up against one of the top jockeys riding today in England then this is what happens.
Why didn't he push it on in the straight , gain a 5/10L lead and then ease down? He then bungled the last and didn't have the skill/strength to get past Cobden.
At the elite level as no.1 jockey for a major stable he is by far the worst I've ever seen.

I completely agree uti.....I genuinely believe it was a bit of both.....It was the lack of a full blown drive that caught my eye firstly but I don't doubt what you say for a second either.

The barn like to come alive at the weekend……

Why didn't he push it on in the straight , gain a 5/10L lead and then ease down?

this . if he makes a mistake at the last like he did, he would still have had a few lengths spare to pick up momentum again .

Nico must be one of the best riding if he can throw a race intentionally and lose by a short head.

"Don't win too far,Nico",perhaps?
Backing JP shorties in low grade races end in one way,Horatio.

Connections are probably not too dissatisfied with the ride. Prefer that to winning after a hard race. However he could have achieved both.

Shd nailed on the line argument stone dead….according to JP he watches every race…..I expect frank his manager will too…..

viscount Nelson (appropriately named) drifted from 3.35 out to 5. lay this for your xmas expenses !

out to 6.0 its free money !

Laying Nico - easy money. Horses don't run for him half the time anyway.

Post your mythical Lays then,Newmarket

There really are a few bloody idiots on here     all split second decision makers or just unable to ride a bloody rocking horse.   they have overstayed their welcome   brain dead some of them   Some of the comments are so baby like     IQ must be at least kindergarten standard  well done you dumbos no need to name them they know who they are.

the irony

Indeed

jerseyboy is actually from jaywick.

the cheerleader for the squirrel faced loon, then gets ripped off by a tipster and accuses another person with the same name as being a con man, several other fcktard events since and calls other idiot, it's funny really

Nice to see some of the village idiots surface come up for air  They have run out of common sense brain dead nutters..

As opposed to your erudite views,Jumper

Give us your view then Jersey

maybe next time you consider supporting a forum troll and his lies you'll think twice, maybe you'll also think twice about accusing people of wrong doing without sense checking your facts, but i suppose that doesn't fit your brain dead narrative

Horatio  IMO the jockey concerned is in my opinion a dedicated stable jockey truly loyal to his stable and their owners has won many many top races conveniently overlooked by his short sighted critics.

Elise  you have always been a pain in the arse so why change now. Once a **** always a ****.

and you've always been a thick ****

At least not as thick as your pig ****  dumbo

Up the irons  You recognize me as being erudite, thank you not superior whatsoever just frustrated by some of the comments from the forum idiots. And the local idiot/bully..

Started on the Sherry early Jersey.

did u get banned from tesco with your mate?

jerseyboy 22 Dec 25 16:54 
Horatio  IMO the jockey concerned is in my opinion a dedicated stable jockey truly loyal to his stable and their owners has won many many top races conveniently overlooked by his short sighted critics.


That is fine, but we are not talking about reputation or the past. We are talking about todays ride.

Elise  we do not have that crap of a supermarket here, only for pleps like you.

Glasgow,  nearly tee total  thanks, all the best..

To save any further debate,today's ride was at best,an appalling ride of over confidence.
If,in the unlikely event of it being a "Not Off",it was the greatest judgement of any jockey who has ever ridden

He didn't need to jump off, to be fair

Not dodgy imo but absolutely terrible ride from the luckiest jockey to hold such a position in my lifetime.

Horses win despite him and not because of him.

He is 36 now and probably his last season

the horse?

Quick, there’s the bell.  Jersey and Elise, you need to get back into the classroom.

Nearly as good as Balinger Ridge. 

I wonder sometimes why I bother to look on here for anything remotely sensible in terms of racing. Not surprised the usual suspects quickly forgot the ride Nico gave Impose Toi, he made it look easy didn't he? Anybody with half a clue would acknowledge that it was far from a simple task despite appearances.

At Huntingdon he was perhaps overconfident and the final flight mistake was his undoing but whether he would have prevailed by whipping his mount is debatable, lost by inches to a horse receiving 7lbs and dropped in class who's next target is black type. I get the howls of less effort than seemed warranted but any how; of pulling the mare is ludicrous unless it was the most sublime jockeyship seen in a non trier?

As for comparing him and Cobden based on the result, again ludicrous without even considering that the winning mare is probably better than many thought and the runner up perhaps not so much superior?

Btw honcho, how does it in any way compare with Ballinger?

A good ride doesn't counterbalance subsequent poor ones. Does it? Anyone with half a clue would realise that. There has never been a jockey that hasn't c0cked it up at some point.

Cobden is a superior jockey, no shame in that. It was Nico's misfortune that he was up against Cobden in that scenario.

However, the connections won't be that bothered I suspect, just those that rode in on the Hendo good thing at odds on that would be most bothered.

That would be an answer with just half a clue then Cider, a bit like you telling us that Wham were buying money at 1/3 and some bent bloke winning the dancing? lol

JP drifting Shorties in ordinary races = Buyers Beware.
BTW,there is no question of Nico being "perhaps overconfident" when he was vastly overconfident.

Probably a fair comment irons but Cider trying to be clever does not work however you dissect his retort!!?

I didn't tell anyone Wham was buying money. I wanted to get on at 1/3 with sly, put up 1.25 to lay here and nobody had the bottle to lay me.

I did have to turn my original position around, but it worked out ok.

I have never avoided backing Nico in a big race,Glen.
You have lunatics like Newmarket Spurs and nonentities like Aceform who would struggle to read "Janet & John" let alone a race talking abject nonsense."Stonehands"for God's sake.
I grant you that he is not the most stylish rider but he is very effective.
The day Hendo thinks otherwise he will be gone

That is a tad contradictory don't you think Cider? You wanted to get on at 1/3 but then wanted to lay it? Is there an angle we are missing?

Btw perhaps the layers thought you were so clued up that you knew best?

Circumstances changed quickly. There's a thread on the specials forum with my commentary 'live', outlining why things changed. Kylie certainly won me more money than Wham would have, and she has kept the market interesting going forward.

You know the score irons, whenever we get a Nico thread the horses never get a mention which tell us the likes of Newmarket and his cronies are simply groupies for when it goes wrong, which it does regularly for most jockeys. I curse them as much as anybody btw but hardly a reason to troll them every ride imvho?

CagliariG 23 Dec 25 19:40 
I wonder sometimes why I bother to look on here for anything remotely sensible in terms of racing.

CagliariG 27 May 24 19:27
We have laid it to lose £155 K min sparrow and hope for more!!!

oh the irony

Would she be going forward with the bent dancer Cider?

The only certainty with scd was Amber getting stuffed.

Exactly my point shafter, an £11k profit from the horse but you think you know about betting and making a book? LOL

Good luck to anybody that can even stand to watch the "Specials" trash.

11k profot from a note with a used chip on it?

what a silly old **** you really are tobymugs.

Cag,do you have a soft spot for the cumbersome individual ?

I think he will win the KG imv…..

You cannot handle facts shafter, if you could you would not be running away whilst I am near you? All documents you demanded available when you wish to view them?

Dec 23, 2025 -- 9:11PM, uptheirons wrote:

Good luck to anybody that can even stand to watch the "Specials" trash.

The glory days are long gone, some of it I can no longer stomach myself, such as bb and bgt. But still a few good opportunities. Someone well connected and betting on here has had access to bbc voting on scd and spoty this year though, which is pretty disconcerting.

Sometimes you wonder why you click on the horse racing forum Cag,it’s an addiction imv…..you can’t help it….

If you need advice on any LGBTV+ stuff, shafter is your man Cider, especially broken down Trannies!! lol

Unlike you Quixall I spend days and weeks not even looking on the cesspit!!

I’m not on much nowadays tbh…..

A "cumbersome individual"riding a horse that needs to find plenty at 3/1 for the KG?

Back on topic, Nico is pretty honest and I'd say there's a fair chance he would have admitted stuffing that one up himself. They are not infallible. He gets unnecessary abuse, but it doesn't negate that ride.

Quixall stated that he would win on this irons, can't decide if he is joking or has lumped on, which is it Quixall?

That is the individual who made Jonbon a 1/5 chance at Aintree and when I pointed out it was 1.7 on here and surely a maximum bet.
He said,"It's not my type of bet"

Obviously not as it was a winning bet

I will be backing the horse Cag,he just has to sit tight imv…..hopefully he is in command at the last,cumbersome near the line…

Btw Quixall, I have no soft spots for any particular jockeys other than Antonio Fresu, Stefano Cherchi and Marco Ghiani being connected through family of people my wife knows and my watching their fathers and uncles riding. Stefano is probably a good example of why it is mindless to be slagging jockeys on here or any other platform tbh.

Why would any punter back 1/5 Iron……? You would require treatment imo…

A 10lb penalty on the poor horse's back

It was 1.7 when you made it 1/5,you clueless moron

Some back 1/50 shots to be placed Quixall and do it with regularity despite losing!!

I don’t do a hero Cag,apart from military etc…..surgeons and the likes…..

Sports people are ten a penny,although i do admire their bravery…

And post them on here btw!! LOL

uptheirons 23 Dec 25 21:42 
It was 1.7 when you made it 1/5,you clueless moron

It’s Xmas ffs have a heart….

Have a good one,Aceform.

And you….

You won’t be eating pasta for Xmas Cag surely

In the UK Quixall and have never eaten pasta at Christmas even at home, Guinea Fowl and Venison for the main meal. Have a good one everybody and a prosperous boxing day.

Ditto ( only the chosen tho)…..

So he did lose on City Of Troy then. Some clown trying to justify the loss by adding winnings from a previous race. Comical.

Looks like Shafter was spot on all along!

Even on a Monday before Xmas racing is all about owners and colours. Paul Jacobs beats JP McManus. How long have those 2 been owning good horses? Nick Skelton, Graeme Brooks and McNeil Family also familiar colours.

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Couldn't resist.