Nico should be removed from Constitution Hill.

gfy ydc..been discussed to death for 3 days ysc.

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They'd have to remove your tongue from up Nico's arse first, LH.
Is he blackmailing you or summat?

Three falls in a row makes ANY  horse a danger to jockeys.  Disallowance of entry for such horses needs brought in as a rule of NH Racing imv.  Horse welfare gets far too much consideration and jockey welfare not nearly enough.

Ahh i get it now. You are one of those Irish who hated the fact that Con Hill looked like he was gunna outshine the champ hurdlers from Ireland (land of ire), so now you are gloating that its fell apart for him.
I've noticed a few people like that on here.
At his best Con Hill boots Istibraq out the way. 1.01
Theatreworld ffs.

I agree.

Con hill cant jump istabraq best hurdle horse ever seen

Istabraq fell more than once!!

Yes on heavy ground which he did n t like

Wud prefer to see a change of stable , learned habits are difficult to eradicate when routine is the same .

i disagree..2 falls simply on wrong stride and went for biggun..aintree nico blindsided by pulling him out late and paid the price..been unlucky imo.

He fell at Aintree i make that three.

A champion jockey is about to enter an important race on a new horse. The horse's trainer meets him before the race and says, "All you have to remember with this horse is that every time you approach a jump, you have to shout, 'ALLLLEEE OOOP!' really loudly in the horse's ear. Providing you do that, you'll be fine."
The jockey thinks the trainer is mad but promises to shout the command. The race begins and they approach the first hurdle. The jockey ignores the trainer's ridiculous advice and the horse crashes straight through the center of the jump.
They carry on and approach the second hurdle. The jockey, somewhat embarrassed, whispers 'Aleeee ooop' in the horse's ear. The same thing happens--the horse crashes straight through the center of the jump.
At the third hurdle, the jockey thinks, "It's no good, I'll have to do it," and yells, "ALLLEEE OOOP!" really loudly. Sure enough, the horse sails over the jump with no problems. This continues for the rest of the race, but due to the earlier problems the horse only finishes third.
The trainer is fuming and asks the jockey what went wrong. The jockey replies, "Nothing is wrong with me - it's this horse. What is he - deaf or something?"

The trainer replies, "Deaf?? DEAF?? He's not deaf--he's BLIND!" 

   
75% of humans wear glasses of some kind. Why should horses be any different. With bad jumpers the answer is staring you in the face but no one even considers it.

Did you know.............due to the positioning of a horses eyes on the side of their head, they effectively can't see the obstacle as they actually jump? A blind spot. Brave int they?

with horses eyes positioned as they are is it true the closer they get to a fence they jump it blind in effect?

Yes, that's essentially true — and it's one of the most fascinating (and slightly terrifying) facts about equine vision.Horses have eyes placed on the sides of their head, giving them nearly 360° panoramic vision, but this comes at a cost: they have two major blind spots directly relevant to jumping:Directly in front of their forehead/nose (roughly the last 1–1.2 meters in front of them).
Directly behind them.

More importantly for jumping: because the horse's nose and head are in the way, the binocular (overlapping) field of vision that allows depth perception is quite narrow and is aimed downward. When a horse is in a normal head carriage looking straight ahead, it can see two separate monocular images of a fence until it gets very close.As the horse approaches a jump and raises its head slightly to clear the obstacle (or when the rider asks for a more upright carriage), the fence actually disappears from view in the last 2–4 strides (roughly 3–6 meters out, depending on the horse’s head position and the height of the fence). At that point:The horse can no longer see the fence at all with both eyes (loss of binocular vision).
In the final stride or two, the fence is often completely in the blind spot directly in front of the horse’s face.

In effect, the horse jumps the last part “blind” — it has already judged the distance, height, and type of obstacle a few strides earlier using its binocular vision and memory, then commits and takes off even though it can no longer see the fence itself.This is why:Horses sometimes “back off” or refuse if they feel uncertain a few strides out (they still have time to see and decide).
Good jumping horses develop incredible spatial memory and trust in their rider’s line and pace.
Sudden shadows, flowers, or changes under the fence can spook them more than on the flat — they spot the difference early, but once they’re committed in those last strides, they can’t re-assess.

Top riders and trainers often say: “The horse has to take a picture of the fence about three strides out — after that, you’re on faith.” That’s not an exaggeration; it’s anatomy.

Grok AI ^^

Good jumping horses develop incredible spatial memory and trust in their rider’s line and pace.

Con hill lost trust in.....

Rico-Dangleflaps 02 Dec 25 14:18 
i disagree..2 falls simply on wrong stride and went for biggun..aintree nico blindsided by pulling him out late and paid the price..been unlucky imo.
abba21 02 Dec 25 14:24 
He fell at Aintree i make that three.

sew do eye.

Am i mad because i actually agree with Rico.
But that aside if the horse falls or gets hurt everybody will say he shouldn't have run it.
If it runs and wins Henderson will get all the plaudits

If it runs, falls and in so doing hurts a jockey?  The NHA should demonstrate some bolls and insist the horse is a racing hazard and insist it is retired.  Show some leadership instead of going with whatever “flow” is fashionable.

9 yo

They should have put new jockey up on staurday , if anyone would fancy the ride

The way everyone is talking the horse would be winning if stood up ,How do we know thats the case

Give it a spin over fences it might pay them a bit more attention  . Or Retire

I notice Henderson didn't come out with an answer to was it Nico ?
Have a good look at the approach to that second fence
Bowen rode it down the field at Punchestown with a Clear Round (no doubt as instructed)
Nico fell on it last three times , the horse aint going to be confident with  Nico up now is he ?

His hands give Nico away

"His hands give it away"?
You utter moron

Irishone doesnt know the difference between a hurdle and a fence.

Or where a riders hands should be

LoyalHoncho 02 Dec 25 17:15 
If it runs, falls and in so doing hurts a jockey?  The NHA should demonstrate some bolls and insist the horse is a racing hazard and insist it is retired.

beggars belief you'ce actually posted that absolute fckn nonsense.

JCM, interesting stuff there.

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LoyalHoncho 02 Dec 25 17:15
If it runs, falls and in so doing hurts a jockey?  The NHA should demonstrate some bolls and insist the horse is a racing hazard and insist it is retired.

beggars belief you'ce actually posted that absolute fckn nonsense.

rico what are you missing ytc?.....The Horse has become a Death Trap are you to Thick tay see it?

What about the likes of El Fabiolo then acey?

Aye him as well.

The horse is "guessing" at his hurdles not ploughing through them.
I would not be in the least surprised to see CH line up in the Christmas Hurdle.
It definitely will not be slowed down with any of mine.
It is entirely the Owner's decision

The BHA wouldn't have the minerals to get involved but I reckon they will desperately hoping that he isn't asked to jump a hurdle again, Said before the antis are missing a trick here, when you see the annual debate on GB with Hoiles or whoever up against an animal rights activist, I would imagine that it would become a tad awkward if they were to replay his 3 ffalls and is behaviour in the Irish race and ask the racing person to explain/defend it on a welfare stance.

I agree it is the owner’s decision.  My radical point, for what it’s worth, is that in the instance of a horse falling three times in succession the Racing authorities should  deem it a safety hazard, and disallow it future entry to any jumps race.
They seem to be bending over backwards to promote the safety of horses, what about the safety of jockeys?

Your point is a good one duffy, imv.
The morning after the fall the virulently Racing-hating BBC made a feature of the fall on their morning News show.  Why would they do so?  Can only be to further fuel the furore of perceived cruelty to animals, in this case of course, thoroughbred horses.

So your criteria would not apply to CH then Honcho!!

He's not fallen 3 x on the spin though.

He has in the U.K. and that is the B.H.A.’s sphere.
A bit of a nitpick in my view Penzance.
Do you ( and everybody else - this is a forum after all ) feel the safety of jockeys should be overlooked or be an even higher priority than that of a horse?

A snippet for you from 7b, schooling in blinkers and cheekpieces to be tried and a jockey change which has nothing to do with Nico's ability. That apart plenty of horses have had worse records than CH for falling but never had people baying for retirement e.g Moscow Flyer and presently El Fabiolo, CH has made minor errors but because of his style of low and fast jumping has paid the price,Istabraq was similar and fell more than once.

CagliariG
Your technical points are all valid and appreciated amongst the horsey guys on here but there are two dreaded words that apply to a situation such as this and it's two words that frighten the life out of the BHA......Public Perception!!!

Who’s baying?  Who’s calling for retirement?  Why go out of your way to misrepresent.

Apologies Honcho, I had not realised you had not read other threads and posts on the Forum but perhaps it is just your ego that presumed I was referring to you? Had it been the case I would have said so. hth

ewe selt the £600,000 cistern yet tobyliargarymug?

That is a bit like you shafter, more than a decade behind the times, probably why you cannot afford the £5K you owe?

After his heavy fall schooling on the Thursday before the Fighting Fifth, it has to be a no to jumping. Especially if the connections are going to hush it up. A number of Pro jockeys were in that morning, the Vet had to check him over, the leading yard commentator was in the yard Friday morning too, plus the wider professional Racing community were aware of the fall on Friday at Newbury. By hushing it up, the fact that during the schooling he jumped two old style hurdles fine, and then fell at the second of the two padded hurdles (brought in especially) in the line of 4 hurdles, means that the debate about the different hurdles will not happen, as apparently he never fell!

Lambloon there has been only one horse fallen during schooling at 7b this year and that was the result of an afterthought by the trainer who acknowledged it was a mistake so close to the race. Are you on magic mushrooms or on day release from the nuthouse?

lamb bhuna has the video...still no screenshots of CH slithering along the deck

#walofs

No...as stated, have seen the video...stepped at the fence, a heavy fall to the left.

Post your Lay of CH and your bet on the winner,as I could do with a laugh

LOL schooling over fences now!!

suggest you check again with yr 7b contact...is it Mick Fitz?

lamb bhuna has the video...still no screenshots of CH slithering along the deck

#walofs

Curried Cretin is probably a bored Student without a copper coin in his A/C

I understand your voracity for it not be true, as it undermines your trust in the information that is put out from 7b, however its out there now from multiple sources, so best just to deal with it, and adjust your expectations and your bets accordingly.

lamb bhuna has the video...still no screenshots of CH slithering along the deck

#walofs

There never will be because it didn't happen,Rico.
CH has never been schooled over fences either.
Yet another certifiable,who joined BF on the day he made this absurd claim,followed by a Lay of CH and a back on the winner.
Naturally,there is not a shred of evidence of either occurring

https://youtube.com/shorts/Hp8546g-vm8?si=0xZmQVOC8-zykCti

He has jumped fences in public though...

Golden Ace - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:410578117062 | Placed: 29-Nov-25 12:12:38
Newcastle
Constitution Hill - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:410513626272 | Placed: 28-Nov-25 22:08:03

Show the bets in full not a partial with no amounts indicated,Curried Cretin

No need...the proofs there..the lay was Friday evening,when the news drifted out and CH was still going to run,(a Lambooner is someone from Lambourn). It should not have been kept a secret,too significant with a Public Horse like CH.

Utter cobblers Curried Cretin

A Lamb Bhuna is is mild curry

Putting you away IMO
More Lampooner than Lambooner, inasmuch as being one that citicizes using ridicule.

posting the carcass,hiding the steak

#wac

Many thanks UTI for yr help, Ai has now picked it up and its fully out there...a useful Village Idiot

After his heavy fall schooling on the Thursday before the Fighting Fifth, it has to be a no to jumping. Especially if the connections are going to hush it up. A number of Pro jockeys were in that morning, the Vet had to check him over, the leading yard commentator was in the yard Friday morning too, plus the wider professional Racing community were aware of the fall on Friday at Newbury. By hushing it up, the fact that during the schooling he jumped two old style hurdles fine, and then fell at the second of the two padded hurdles (brought in especially) in the line of 4 hurdles, means that the debate about the different hurdles will not happen, as apparently he never fell!


Absolute tosh !


[i]No need...the proofs there..the lay was Friday evening,when the news drifted out and CH was still going to run,(a Lambooner is someone from Lambourn).

A person from the place called Lambourn is called a Lambournian. (AI)

Not if you live there...if you drink in The Wheel,it was out there Friday.

Thanks for the Video Johann had not seen it , 120k was a fair price , was that Roy Rogers on board ?