Few heading for the exits already at Thurles. !!

Getting to expensive now horse racing by the time you had food and drink at premium prices and entrance.

Would love to know how many £7k-£1k's or £14k-£2k's were placed

Horatio,  do you remember the Sporting Life used to show any significant  bets struck.

How could anybody back a Chase debutant at 1/7?

Git it all back on kharisma

I do Glasgow.....wasn't it anything £400 plus was reported?

fck in hell irons copped the lot again..

Glasgow

I still have 100s of sporting life’s I’ll post an example later

Not Backing doesn't translate to Laying it,Rico

Might be different in Ireland but in GB there has been a big shift from online back to on course betting according to bookies. Largely driven by affordability checks. It can only be the big hitters as a day racing costs £40 before you start betting. And typical SPs are at least 10% below exchange win odds.

Glasgow

This is from September 28th 1996 Frankie day

Fujiyama crest

Opened 3/1 after 6/1 in a place

1250/500 2250/1000 twice 1800/800 4 times 900/400 4 times 60000/30000 40000/20000
30000/15000 20000/10000 3 times 14000/7000 10000/5000 6 times 6000/3000 2000/1000 11 times
Missing a few now but plenty of 400 and 500 bets at 2/1 35000/20000 3 times 21000/12000
17500/10000 14000/8000 6 times then plenty of 4000 and 2000 bets at 7/4 13000/8000
8500/4000 3000/2000 including office money

Did well to return 2/1

irons..

if ewe bet genuine value over time ewe win
if you lay bad value over time ewe win.

if iyo 1/7 isnt 'value' then it mussed be bad value shirley?

As I haven't seen it School how would I know what was value?
Incidentally,five years ago this type of horse would have been 1/3,now any price that gets put up is taken.
1.03 a JP horse pre off today

Irons has the game by the provibal's, Rico. So if you'd had seen it school really well at home and it was still 1/7 on it's chase debut would this then be a value price?

That's it jim....used to love going through those

The winner was a 140 Hurdler making its Chase debut so hardly a mug so the answer would have been no,mr smarty,WP.

Horatio out at the minute but later will post the overounds that day there quite interesting.

I bet they are jim....thank you

And you didn't consider the winner to be a value price to back then?

I would not back a Chase debutant at 1/7 under any circumstances,WP.
It is as simple as that and,as I pointed out earlier.that doesn't make me a Layer.
There are plenty of races I am happy to swerve

its simple enuff...if its bar a fall 1/7 to jump 10 fences and not to go lame is preceived as value then lump on.

It clearly wasn't bar a fall as you put it,Rico,was it.

fck nahs..never looked at race and didnt see it..im just meaning in general.

Fair enough Irons, just interested in your pre race methods in this type of race

Overounds Horatio that day

Race one 7 runners 108.8
Race two 12 runners 118.8
Race three 7 runners 111.91
Race four 26 runners 138.48
Race five 18 runners 133.39
Race six 5 runners 110.48
Race seven 18 runners 150.45

It was by race 5 the dettori situation kicked in the only one of his rides I backed that day was fatefully at 7/1 in the morning pretty sure it would still be around that price as race 4 was been run then returned 7/4

Thank you jim...Unreal figures.

The owner of my Dads local won approx £150k in a Frankie acca on the day.....unfortunately he drank himself to death within 2 years

Some day

It was a great day horatio even on the Sunday there was a real buzz around the racecourse he rode one called sunbeam dance in the first it seemed almost everyone on course was hoping it would win,

I remember on the Saturday I had no interest in the last two races and was going to leave early but because of what was happening I stayed thankfully

What a way to go for the pub owner although you would have hoped he got a few mores years to spend his winnings

Very true.....Glad you had a fantastic couple of days....one you won't forget that is for sure

I’ve been very lucky to see many unforgettable days for sheer disbelief Annie power coming down at Cheltenham just watching peoples faces was unreal.

Changed the life of The New Lion's old owner,Darren ****.

Have you got lost Penzance

Just realised what you mean Penzance thought you was getting the thread mixed up with the constitution hill thread

Forgot you can't say that name on here.

Yes the other one must have contacted betfair a few years ago last night he was on rtv proving he understood absolutely nothing about betting

Yéats.

An utterly clueless,cravat wearing chancer

I don’t know if you saw it irons but the other one I forget his name was even worse regarding the real world of betting I seriously wonder if either actually ever have a bet.

There’s another comedian on sky sports racing now Sean boyce talking about the fighting fifth he can’t wait to see the race and just hopes the big three get there ,how disrespectful to the current champion hurdler however there every chance he isn’t aware of that fact so maybe he isn’t been disrespectful.

One sockless, the other wears a cravat....Is fashion your bag uti?

They did the same thing in the skybet extended advert on rtv yesterday before racing, previewing the race and totally ignored the current champion hurdler!

He is one of many who would starve to death if he had to bet for a living,Horatio

In a 100% book, 12.5% of 1/7 shots are expected to lose. It's quite amusing really that when it happens, people act as if the sky has just fallen in.

There's little long term value in participating at those odds, unless you are in possession of knowledge that the market doesn't have. As you can't really afford to miss, or else you need an awful lot of winners to edge in front. Not worth it.  Even then, there is still implied risk. In some markets I can bet at 1/7, safe in the knowledge that the true odds are more like 1/999 (pretty much not measurable in reality).

Highly unusual the idiots ever found the entrance gates, let alone the exit gates back there in the bogs of Ireland.

The cretinous Cutter desperate for a response

uptheirons 27 Nov 25 16:36 
He is one of many who would starve to death if he had to bet for a living,Horatio

Nov 27, 2025 -- 4:45PM, uptheirons wrote:

The cretinous Cutter desperate for a response

And the hapless idiots gives one

Cider 27 Nov 25 16:41 
In some markets I can bet at 1/7, safe in the knowledge that the true odds are more like 1/999 (pretty much not measurable in reality).

remind me when the next wun comes along..tar.

Not horse racing.

Getting on is the issue, not identifying value.

I think I was betting Labour maj in the last GE around that price, yes the true chance of losing was not measurable. Though in that case the issue was deposit limits, not getting on!

A much better bet than a fto novice chaser lol

You could of had 2-7 the night before for Salvator Mundi so I do not know where you guys get 1-7  that was sp.