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21 Nov 25
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Amateur jockey in all but name stones hands Nico DB provides us all another masterclass on Lucky Place in the 1.25 Ascot.
This clueless moron who steals a living as Henderson's best mate at no point pushes the horse or goes for the whip. Then after the last the horse closes rapidly on the first 2 without any encouragement.
If Henderson had any ambition left he would sack him and beg Sean Bowen to ride his horses starting with CH in the Fighting F. on 29/11.
This clueless moron who steals a living as Henderson's best mate at no point pushes the horse or goes for the whip. Then after the last the horse closes rapidly on the first 2 without any encouragement.
If Henderson had any ambition left he would sack him and beg Sean Bowen to ride his horses starting with CH in the Fighting F. on 29/11.
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It was a very poor ride. Problem is Hendo must be close to packing it in and old boys don't like change.
Bookies need these beat otherwise we all be sitting at home making money hth
Ploughing through a fence clearly made no difference then?
Crawl back under your stone Newmarket,you utterly clueless individual
Crawl back under your stone Newmarket,you utterly clueless individual
fav lost the race through early keenness when ben wisely took back
5-10 years ago fav would have come down at that fence
uptheirons • November 21, 2025 1:50 PM GMT
Ploughing through a fence clearly made no difference then?
powderpuff fences
Ploughing through a fence clearly made no difference then?
powderpuff fences
it didn't help, but these guys bookies favs forever - AND yes completely demolished the fence and losthardly any momentum so can't say that was the cause
yes completely demolished the fence and losthardly any momentum so can't say that was the cause
that's my view also
that's my view also
think 100/30 on to 8 to 13 just before the off was far more significant than the fence, 
uptheirons 21 Nov 25 13:50
Ploughing through a fence clearly made no difference then?
right lets get this clarified.
it was strong in market pre race 1.4 ish...no sign of a drift to signify anything wrong..it was 4L clear rounding last bend appearing going well..whilst still being nudged along the other two pass it..nico then accepted defeat..it was closing on the run in albeit under just a nudge along and it certainly did not plough through any fence.
Ploughing through a fence clearly made no difference then?
right lets get this clarified.
it was strong in market pre race 1.4 ish...no sign of a drift to signify anything wrong..it was 4L clear rounding last bend appearing going well..whilst still being nudged along the other two pass it..nico then accepted defeat..it was closing on the run in albeit under just a nudge along and it certainly did not plough through any fence.
1.12 ir
NHs horses aren't quite firing right now that's for sure
NHs horses aren't quite firing right now that's for sure
wondersobright 21 Nov 25 13:52
fav lost the race through early keenness when ben wisely took back
1.12 3 out..wonders obv copped the jackpot?
fav lost the race through early keenness when ben wisely took back
1.12 3 out..wonders obv copped the jackpot?
just re watched..did go through a fence early in race..made no difference to the result wotsoever.
uptheirons 21 Nov 25 13:50
Ploughing through a fence clearly made no difference then?
right lets get this clarified.
it was strong in market pre race 1.4 ish...no sign of a drift to signify anything wrong..it was 4L clear rounding last bend appearing going well..whilst still being nudged along the other two pass it..nico then accepted defeat..it was closing on the run in albeit under just a nudge along... did go through a fence early in race..made no difference to the result wotsoever.
Ploughing through a fence clearly made no difference then?
right lets get this clarified.
it was strong in market pre race 1.4 ish...no sign of a drift to signify anything wrong..it was 4L clear rounding last bend appearing going well..whilst still being nudged along the other two pass it..nico then accepted defeat..it was closing on the run in albeit under just a nudge along... did go through a fence early in race..made no difference to the result wotsoever.
How in God's name can you state that it didn't make any difference?
Highly likely to have had the wind knocked out of it
Highly likely to have had the wind knocked out of it
lost no momentum and no ground..back on snaff instanlty.
that was a worse ride from skelton 2.35. hit 2/9 in running, never got within a length
Do you think so TTT, I thought he produced it at the right time but although it travelled okay when let down it didn't find and the winner was going away again at the finish.
The Skelton horse is an extremely tricky ride and could have done with the pace duel continued
i thought he was over confident. sat on it until after last. could have pushed it to lead at the last imo.i admit its far easier sitting in my lounge, but thats how it looked to me.
It's all ifs buts and maybes 
Would be boring if we all had the same opinion
Would be boring if we all had the same opinion
Hallmark of lots of Skelton horses/rides, horse travels like a travelly thing, comes off the bridle, finds less than expected.
Layed it pre race rico, apols for aftertime, but if I really wanted to do that would say I layed it shorter inplay...
and no I can't be arzted to post my bet, it's just for discussion sake...
Nov 21, 2025 -- 2:33PM, Rico-Dangleflaps wrote:
wondersobright 21 Nov 25 13:52
keen and ploughed thru a fence and no layers at very short prices...
crazee mr fawlty.
crazee mr fawlty.
hindsightbetting.co.uk. everyones a millionaire.
scope dirty and thew filthy scum rug rats at hendo,s lay it for all money at 100 to 30 on to 8 to 13 on 5 mins before the off
Layed it for every penny, and the price shortened???
Moronic comment of the day from UPTHEIRONS..... Well done.
Now as you're are the self proclaimed expert on this forum name any jockey in the Top 100 who wouldn't have won on Jango today?? ..... I'm waiting.
The difference between a genuine top class jockey like Sean Bowen or in the past for Henderson jocks like Barry G. and AP is that they would win the close ones, the big races and on horses which weren't the best on the day. I despair at the idiocy. Stone hands Nico guides home an easy winning fav and all is forgiven!
Now as you're are the self proclaimed expert on this forum name any jockey in the Top 100 who wouldn't have won on Jango today?? ..... I'm waiting.
The difference between a genuine top class jockey like Sean Bowen or in the past for Henderson jocks like Barry G. and AP is that they would win the close ones, the big races and on horses which weren't the best on the day. I despair at the idiocy. Stone hands Nico guides home an easy winning fav and all is forgiven!
I can’t believe there is a trainer in the land, now or in the past, who employed jockeys because they were regularly in photo finishes.
Newmarket,you can crticise Nico's style but,to call him "stonehands" demonstrates your total ignorance of race riding.
Clearly,you know more than Hendo and his owners,
You remain an obsessive,know nothing cretin
Clearly,you know more than Hendo and his owners,
You remain an obsessive,know nothing cretin
Nico is a stylist with determination. I have no issue with his riding. Or Bowen’s. Both want to win which is appealing.
If Jango had been beaten today would critics have blamed Nico for a poor ride?
To win well on a horse expected to win is an endearing quality.
If Jango had been beaten today would critics have blamed Nico for a poor ride?
To win well on a horse expected to win is an endearing quality.
Correct,Honcho.
I have never suggested that Nico is another Ruby but,I have never flinched from backing one in a top grade event because he was the pilot.
His record at the top flight speaks for itself.
BTW,Newmarket was posting seconds after Nico's serious fall at Plumpton.
The man is an obsessive moron
I have never suggested that Nico is another Ruby but,I have never flinched from backing one in a top grade event because he was the pilot.
His record at the top flight speaks for itself.
BTW,Newmarket was posting seconds after Nico's serious fall at Plumpton.
The man is an obsessive moron
Perhaps Newmarket would care to post a single example of a "Stonehands" ride by Nico
Nico has one ride today and if it wins Spurs will be on saying his grannie would have won on it but if beaten it will be Nico's fault regardless!!
Never mind stone hands,Spurs brain appears to be made of granite.
Never mind stone hands,Spurs brain appears to be made of granite.
Nov 22, 2025 -- 7:55PM, uptheirons wrote:
Perhaps Newmarket would care to post a single example of a "Stonehands" ride by Nico
the clue is in the title 
As we saw yesterday, on the rare occasions that he is on a horse with a decent chance, he can ride it. Lucky Place clearly not in a fit state to be anywhere near a racecourse.
on the rare occasions that he is on a horse with a decent chance, he can ride it
this is the same nico that is stable jockey to hendo?
this is the same nico that is stable jockey to hendo?
It certainly is,wonders.
There are more certifiables on here than Rampton
There are more certifiables on here than Rampton
If Nico was to ride in Ireland,he'd be skint and out of a job within two weeks 100%
Never been a stylish pilot but certainly a most effective one,Honcho.
The Lord alone knows what goes on in the head of Newmarket Sausage
The Lord alone knows what goes on in the head of Newmarket Sausage
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