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leif
16 Nov 25 00:20
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Hurdle debut, having been placed in the Derby at one point.
Nothing in the sire/mare background to suggest they produce a decent NH type.
Preferred top of the ground on the level - not gonna get that tomorra.
Fav on the machine currently.
Anyone making a case  for it?

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By:
werbie
When: 16 Nov 25 06:46
High cruising speed but lacking a bit of bite.Potentially smart but like you suggest,likely alien conditions for his introduction.
By:
driver2
When: 16 Nov 25 06:51
I wouldn't oppose it, I remember Billy Fury's Anselmo, 4th in the Derby and 3/1 paper fav on its hurdles debut, even after drifting to around 14s, it bolted up under the great Johnny Haine.
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Nov 25 09:32
I'd not back it today; the ground will not be to his liking. Until he rediscovers his mojo or geest for racing again it's financially prudent to steer clear of him. He's 7 at the moment.
By:
maysoon3
When: 16 Nov 25 11:31
a lot of these high class flat horses dont take to hurdles and then ineffective when switched back to the flat and career pretty much over - some notable exceptions like purple moon

this horse when on form on the flat was travelling like a dream and not really finding much - cant imagine him digging in too much up the hill at cheltenham

all that said i wont be laying him and hope im wrong and he either takes to hurdels or find his form back on the level as looked potentially very good as a 3 year old
By:
driver2
When: 16 Nov 25 12:59
Interesting race to watch, especially as AF has had a wind op, which may help him to finish his races.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 16 Nov 25 13:12
tricky yard..if drift they norm dont win..they nah the time of day.
By:
wondersobright
When: 16 Nov 25 13:13
gone sour, no experience over hurdles & ex-flat horse tackling bad ground...fancy this be off the board
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 16 Nov 25 13:14
very keen to post Shocked
By:
wondersobright
When: 16 Nov 25 13:16
he'll pull like mad & he'll be off the board imo
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Nov 25 13:18
A big lay. He's running to freely.
By:
wondersobright
When: 16 Nov 25 13:21
Grin
By:
wondersobright
When: 16 Nov 25 13:22
considering that actually run pretty well albeit a moderate 4th
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 16 Nov 25 13:22
bit keen but still disappointing..winner was huge drifter late on..skellers dont norm get it wrong.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 16 Nov 25 13:23
2/1 3 out..imposs123 just copped the lot. wd.
By:
Poppydog.
When: 16 Nov 25 13:23
Not 'disappointing' at all

A very pleasing debut
By:
wondersobright
When: 16 Nov 25 13:24
I don't think anybody could be pleased with it
By:
Daryl Revok
When: 16 Nov 25 13:24
That drifted cos Harry was clearly going to employ exaggerated waiting tactics on the walk-in, never mind the race. Bit scruffy jumper, too.
By:
impossible123
When: 16 Nov 25 13:25
Pleasing is an appropriate description for the run. A bookie's friend, however.
By:
wondersobright
When: 16 Nov 25 13:25
he's done it all wrong only natural ability got him 4th & I'd say they knew he had natural ability 2nd in a derby
By:
wondersobright
When: 16 Nov 25 13:26
no I'd say a punter's friend because that was a total stripe out @ 6/1 imo
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 16 Nov 25 13:27
wen skellers hosses dubble late they rarely win.
By:
maysoon3
When: 16 Nov 25 13:29
jumped really well and ran well considering how free but unless theres tons of improvement to come he’ll just be fairly moderate over jumps imo
By:
wondersobright
When: 16 Nov 25 13:30
drifted because going to get the drop out ride & kept away from best ground...won despite it likely v nice horse
By:
stu
When: 16 Nov 25 13:45
very odd for a flat horse to be ridden like that first jumps surely - throttle out, or did jock not have a choice...?
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 16 Nov 25 14:12
didnt lead by default..intended..

imo
By:
acey deucy
When: 16 Nov 25 15:29
Running round for buttons over Jumps when he would clean up if they sent him to Australia ffs.Plain
By:
acey deucy
When: 16 Nov 25 15:29
Probably end up Horse Of The Year down under.Plain
By:
driver2
When: 17 Nov 25 06:22
Considering the bad ground was probably against him and the fact that he wasnt fancied to win by connections, AF ran a terrific race, not putting a foot wrong and keeping on well when beaten. I reckon hes got tons of improvement in him and I wouldnt be surprised to see him back here in March.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 17 Nov 25 08:48
Better ground on a flat track ... weighed in.
By:
1st time poster
When: 17 Nov 25 09:58
keeping on well ,WENT OUT LIKE A LIGHT
By:
Cider
When: 17 Nov 25 10:14
Unfortunately, for four place layers, it kept on a little bit too well.
By:
impossible123
When: 17 Nov 25 16:06
Another US Army Ranger type of horse. He's definitely a strong candidate to the poor house if backing him again.
By:
uptheirons
When: 17 Nov 25 16:39
A runaway that is extremely unlikely to be slowed down by any of my money
By:
Whallop
When: 17 Nov 25 17:29

Nov 17, 2025 -- 4:06PM, impossible123 wrote:


Another US Army Ranger type of horse. He's definitely a strong candidate to the poor house if backing him again.


I'd back him at Stratford.

By:
uptheirons
When: 17 Nov 25 18:40
What would be the point of running in a Novice at Stratford?
By:
sageform
When: 17 Nov 25 19:38
Another promising young horse blown apart by competing in the Epsom Derby. A few horses seem to thrive on the place but the majority never get over it.
By:
Cider
When: 17 Nov 25 19:41
It was a complete fruitcake before Epsom, sage.
By:
Cider
When: 17 Nov 25 19:44
It's very rare that we ever see the best of those loons that fight the jockey. The Derby was actually the exception in his case.
By:
leif
When: 07 Dec 25 09:41
2.23 today.
Promising enough first time out at Chelters.
Sharp track ought to suit, appears to be the positive.
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