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The Good Old Days
https://youtu.be/yXiN4mraPHw
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The Dodger always looked well.
Have a good day guys and gals.
Ronnie.
Have a good day guys and gals.
Ronnie.
100 % horse racing on course……enjoyable viewing.
yeah the good old days 4% tax on course 10% off course. No video replays available at home. Not even jockeys colours in the Sporting Life. Would never go back just for the banter.
And no live pics in the bookies until May 1987. ( arrived in York 1990 )
Howard.
It's only a matter of time before the pictures are taken out.
Have a good day.
Ronnie.
It's only a matter of time before the pictures are taken out.
Have a good day.
Ronnie.
Great prog though Simon. Funny but the word Knockout was not used but of course the tv staff not experts.
Howard I thought pictures came into betting shops on March 11 1986 with River Ceirog's win in the Supreme Hurdle though perhaps not all betting shops were geared up for it.
tv allowed Cheltenham '84 onwards but it was just bbc/c4 SIS started roll-out 1987.
tv allowed Cheltenham '84 onwards but it was just bbc/c4 SIS started roll-out 1987.
5th May 1987 first live pictures in betting shops as Howard stated.
I can imagine Cagliari staring at the excel blower speaker in the corner lol ….
You have a poor imagination then Quixall, no extel never mind excel overseas!! First saw SIS in June 87 at a bookies in Reading whilst in UK for a Crown Court case there!! hth
Extel lol…..
Ok….you never replied when i asked if you were going to Remembrance Day ?
Ok….you never replied when i asked if you were going to Remembrance Day ?
Yes I did Quixall but you were probably too busy on the other 100 odd threads to notice!!
No surprise as it could be among hundreds of your posts over a couple of days!! I said I would be there as usual and would ask the opinion of the veterans about your demand to scrap mobility and let you know.
Ah, you ignored my post regarding my support for the veterans……on that particular thread….
Typical….
Typical….
I did not ignore it Quixall, it was an afterthought by you after your sweeping statement, why should the military be any more entitled than any other disabled person? I have never heard any veteran voicing an opinion that we should be any more entitled.
Anyone know if Angus ever had a tipping line ? Seem to remember some large adverts in the Sporting Life at about this time.?
Talking to Phil Judge and Bristol Johnny in one scene
I remember an old boy in the 70’s telling me to dismiss the “good old days”. They were actually the good old, bad old days he maintained. And the old genius was right!
However I still remember the Saturday afternoon I came home from work and the new colour telly was in and the racing was on. It was like a kind of magic. Definitely a good old day.
Tangent: My old man was a great guy but a fiery spirit with a temper to go with it. My eldest, teenage brother thought it would be a joke to dance in front of the telly while he was watching the racing. Well it wasn’t. The old man warned him not to do it again and he did. The old man got up, went into the kitchen, picked up the broom, came back and told him if he did it again he’d regret it. Well Davie couldn’t help himself, didn’t believe he’d hit him with the broom and danced and waved in front of the set again. Quick as a flash Dad picked up the ready broom and threw it the six feet like a javelin, and caught sad Davie right in the mouth with the handle end. Bloodied and cut Davie retreated ( and never did it again! ). However when our granny asked how he got his injuries he was daft enough to shop the old man! A week later, my Mm and Dad came in from shopping and the end of the story unfolded. My granny, from whom my Dad inherited a lot of his nature, had gone out of her way to go and seek my Dad out and berated and harangued him in the street, in full public view, telling him if he ever did anything like it again he’d get more than a cut lip from her. My Mum said she couldn’t believe how cowed he was by this wee wumman! A good old day ‘cos I wasn’t involved!
However I still remember the Saturday afternoon I came home from work and the new colour telly was in and the racing was on. It was like a kind of magic. Definitely a good old day.
Tangent: My old man was a great guy but a fiery spirit with a temper to go with it. My eldest, teenage brother thought it would be a joke to dance in front of the telly while he was watching the racing. Well it wasn’t. The old man warned him not to do it again and he did. The old man got up, went into the kitchen, picked up the broom, came back and told him if he did it again he’d regret it. Well Davie couldn’t help himself, didn’t believe he’d hit him with the broom and danced and waved in front of the set again. Quick as a flash Dad picked up the ready broom and threw it the six feet like a javelin, and caught sad Davie right in the mouth with the handle end. Bloodied and cut Davie retreated ( and never did it again! ). However when our granny asked how he got his injuries he was daft enough to shop the old man! A week later, my Mm and Dad came in from shopping and the end of the story unfolded. My granny, from whom my Dad inherited a lot of his nature, had gone out of her way to go and seek my Dad out and berated and harangued him in the street, in full public view, telling him if he ever did anything like it again he’d get more than a cut lip from her. My Mum said she couldn’t believe how cowed he was by this wee wumman! A good old day ‘cos I wasn’t involved!
Angus provided a tissue for many course and off course independent bookmakers for many years he was the best judge of national hunt racing I ever met and a very good host,
Just enter " Angus Hill " in the Youtube search engine and you will find it.
Cheers Glasgow even someone as incompetent as me should manage that.
Never been able to do that winger but will find it on YouTube thanks.
His son Mark is/was a racecourse bookie and one of the leeding books at PTPs
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There's a few vids of him being interviewed by the OP.
There's a few vids of him being interviewed by the OP.
yeah Mark was good well worth looking at the betting people vids
A good watch.
BTW,Dodger had a sideline which replenished his losses on many occasions.
BTW,Dodger had a sideline which replenished his losses on many occasions.
Shalimah
Mark still is on the racecourse mainly midlands
Mark still is on the racecourse mainly midlands
I bet those 20 years have gone quick I know there racing by for me 
Its very strange, sometimes it feels like a lifetime ago, othertimes it seems like it was just 5 mins ago
Glasgow calling.
Angus Hill had a premium rate telephone line which I used to call during lunchtime at work.
Always gave his nap first within a few seconds and then details of other bets.
I came across the line when I replied to some Bob Rothman literature ( which also included " the Colonel ", who gave me several very decent place pot wins).
Angus Hill had a premium rate telephone line which I used to call during lunchtime at work.
Always gave his nap first within a few seconds and then details of other bets.
I came across the line when I replied to some Bob Rothman literature ( which also included " the Colonel ", who gave me several very decent place pot wins).
He probably made his punting a success simply because he concentrated on horse racing without a list of anything else playing with his mind.I bet his tipping line changed everything with the pressures of trying to find winners for Joe soap….
How did he end up is the question..?
How did he end up is the question..?
They say that when you die and go to heaven, all the dogs you've ever had will be there, waiting for you to throw a stick for them. That's true of course, but Len Boden will also be there, waiting for you to join the other punters in front of his joint as he prices up first (and lays you those prices to take out a grand, each way if you want, politely and discreetly). And Cecil will be lurking, ready to put on for Ladbrokes, and Dodger will be down on the day, but never mind, he'll be back tomorrow, as we all will be, armed with binoculars and Chaseform and cash and credit accounts, as if the internet and Betfair and off-course pictures and all the other post-2000 miseries had never happened.
Very true Screaming, I notice also you were on the button when you said to keep an eye on the Chester Williams horses.
Yes. Haas Boy has turned out to be a revelation for Chester Williams after the way the horse couldn't run two races alike for Emma Lavelle.
The Racing Post previewed the race this morning by discussing "the Jane Williams-trained Haas Boy" (page 4, 'Exeter pointers', Oliver Barnard, who he?).
The Racing Post previewed the race this morning by discussing "the Jane Williams-trained Haas Boy" (page 4, 'Exeter pointers', Oliver Barnard, who he?).
Oliver Barnard, 23, from Lichfield, will be joining the Racing Post having graduated from Nottingham Trent University with a degree in journalism. As well as honing his sports journalism skills, Barnard said he “can’t wait to create content about the best sport in the world every day”.
Fresh out of college, still lazy journalism.
Fresh out of college, still lazy journalism.
By the way, thanks to Alan the Beard, a genuine pro who might well have been hovering in the Ring somewhere in this video: he was at Exeter today and alerted me to this thread.
As he also commented, re Chester Williams, "Cobden will be jumping ship soon!"
As he also commented, re Chester Williams, "Cobden will be jumping ship soon!"
Maxine working on the Joe Large pitch, which had recentley been allowed to join forces legally with his putter inner Reg, Maxines dad.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nGdoJTzsS30
Tracksuit Dave
Tracksuit Dave
Screaming, Eddie Baxter(Avalon) used to price up first, didn't see him in the video though. The Worcester mob, Bill Pritchard, his mate with the neck brace, and another, can't remember names.
His mother was the star of the show...I've had 50p on one and lost, so f*ck 'em, that's all they're getting off me.
Eddie Baxter ("Avalon Investments of Bath") used to price up first in the West Country. He had a little notebook in which he listed his prices, which he would chalk up slowly and dramatically. As the crowd gathered around his joint, he would look around theatrically, with a sly grin, then chalk up 16s and get nearly knocked off his joint as everyone tried to get on. "Fifty pounds to three each way, down to 'Salisbury'," he would call to his clerk. (That was me - 'Salisbury'; I don't know why he called me that, because I had nothing to do with the city, but he gave all the regulars names which meant something to him; he had another business, as an antiquarian bookseller, and he had his funny ways.)
Len Boden, in the Midlands, was quite different. He would price up very early, but from a proper tissue, and would lay you a thousand to sixty each way at those tissue prices. And he wouldn't make a song and dance about it either, ensuring that the opening show with the other books would still be 12s or 14s.
Len Boden, in the Midlands, was quite different. He would price up very early, but from a proper tissue, and would lay you a thousand to sixty each way at those tissue prices. And he wouldn't make a song and dance about it either, ensuring that the opening show with the other books would still be 12s or 14s.
I thought those bets were massive considering it was 1984
Horatio people bet much bigger on horse in the 80s90s than they do now.
Jimnast .Do you remember the bookmaker Ron Bolton I used to watch him when I first went to the royal meeting unbelievable what he took never ever got flustered.
Hope you are well.
Ronnie.
Hope you are well.
Ronnie.
I don'y doubt you are right jimnast. The average wage in 1984 was approx £160......betting to those numbers would take some resolve.
Yes I do Ronnie although I’ve never spoken to him
I’m fine hope your are also will we see you next weekend?
I’m fine hope your are also will we see you next weekend?
Jimnast.
Usual bar going down Thursday coming back Monday.
Ronnie.
Usual bar going down Thursday coming back Monday.
Ronnie.
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