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Mullins. Man is a genius.
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Yes I’m a O’Brien and Mullins man but backed Mullins and rebel, great price and you could never leave him out at that price
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I agree Crawford but nothing would have had me backing that. It’s quite the most ridiculous thing I’ve seen in Racing.
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No bet for me there.
Minnie Hawk left its chance in Paris. Astounding |
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completely agree Loyal. I have no skin in the game in terms of losing/winning. I got beat well and truly in the race. But this horse has improved to an extent that is...............unbelievable. He has beaten horses rated 14lb+ better minimum by 5l, 5 wide off the bend from stall 14. U recall Mr Bolger's assertions.
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I saw what wonders talked about immediately post race and that was the winner cutting right across to the rail from stall 14 and settle in rear. I subconsciously wrote it off there and then. It is crazy what it achieved from there, as you say coming wide five off the rail and exploding past them.
Six months ago it ran 4th in the County Hurdle.  |
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"Six months ago it ran 4th in the County Hurdle"
I believe it broke the track record at Del Mar last night |
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When I saw him finish 7 th in the Scottish champion hurdle back in April I had a strong feeling 12 furlongs around del mar would really suit him
 Great story though Cheltenham festival,royal Ascot,ebor and breeders cup ,I wished my grandma had bought me a horse who could achieve that. |
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Morning Jimnast, hope you're keeping well.
Not very plausible is it ? What trainer would be brave enough / believe they had enough horse to go straight from handicaps to one of the world's richest races ? I cant believe it. I think they must have overdosed on magic carrots. Don't forget the vet that got caught with a land-rover full of illegal drugs at mullons yard and then claimed they werent for mullins horses and refused to say which trainer they were for ! |
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Can't be underestimated the difference that the horse relaxing can make. Watching it again he settled like a dream. And of course his jockey is not normal.
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agree cider and as said on the other threads once they start improving its difficult to know what their limits are !
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Good morning oneten
All good here although had enough of the turf flat now ,hope your well also. Regarding Willie I can’t help but like him he did look very different last night than we’re use to maybe in the years ahead something might come out however I still like to believe he is just a very good trainer and very grateful he brings so many good horses over to the uk. |
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Good post whallop I did consider the weather might be a factor.
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That horse should have been coming round the bend when the race had finished, outrageous
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It will be fascinating to see where Ethical Diamond goes from now on . Stays well , which I think was the key for the result last night . Must have been a fast run race , born out by time .
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Whatever it had for breakfast, I would like some
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That perfect set up is unlikely to be replicated, not for a year anyway.
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Likewise jimnast, I too have had enough flast now and will appreciate the nh season once it gets into full swing.
I would like to think the same, but, therein lies the problem. There are any one of 20 trainers who are capable of training top class horses to their peak, but only a certain mullins manages to take them a step further. Having witnessed all the anti pipe whisperings many moons ago, which were unfounded it would be nice to think that it is a similar case with mullins except for one thing. Pipe's vet wasnt caught at pond house with a land-rover full of illegal performance enhancing drugs, whereas Willie Mullins' vet was . |
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Cider correct. There was a touch of Mine that Bird about it. But nowhere near a fluke imo. Always thought the fav was slightly overated in beating modest fillies this year and an average Arc on softish ground without Europes top horse that couldn't run and according to the trainer laughs at the Arc winner at home.
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There wasn't a great horse in the race so the gap was possible to fill by a Royal Ascot winner / horse that hosed up under a big weight at York. Mentioned only the winner on here before the race. Unfortunately didn't back it partly because Mullins said he would be thrilled to finish 4th. Last time I listen to a trainer. Should know better !
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A good yard at turning out the winners….but a strange barn tbh…
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Broke the track record of course. I doubt they have too many 'marathon' races there but clearly he is G1 material given the perfect set up. The runner up tracked the pace, the winner was going 2 to everything else's 1 when DB asked him up. Wasn't a pace collapse.
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Is it in The Greatwood?
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Broke the track record and covered an extra half a furlong by going 5 wide round the last bend... How is that possible ?
Sorry, but the facts do not add up to my mind. Are we saying that Ethical diamond is soo much faster than all the other top horses in the world that he can travel further distance than they did and still break a track record ? Then we have seen greatness, arise Sir Pegasus. Sorry, but im going to be sceptical and sit this one out for the time being. . |
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Vintage crop down the field in a champion hurdle after all his exploits on the flat
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Get's some decently bred 2 Yrolds,the Classics could be on the agenda.
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I did think he had something like that in him. And the US conditions (very fast), draw, likely pace and turning track. Yes, shameless aftertiming
 Plus DB who is not normal, but at least that bit isn't after timing  |
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Oneten, your facts are wrong there. The drugs that were found in the vet's jeep were animal remedies, which you will find tonnes of in any vet's jeep, not illegal performance-enhancing drugs. The reason the vet got himself in trouble was because he did not buy them directly from the Dept of Agriculture and therefore avoided paying the appropriate veterinary tax.The scandal, if you could call it that, had nothing to do with Mullins.
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Mullins buys well , trains well , and has the best team of horsemen in the NH world working with him. Simple formula , difficult to compete against such a set up . And great family history to boot .
Difficult to see where Ethical Diamond next sets foot on na race course. Most valuable horse in yard now .What price would he be if he was in the Melbourne Cup on Tuesday? |
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Might go for the Coronation Cup @Epsom.
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I don't think there's anything untoward. But I've stated before, the Mullins mafia are absolutely ruthless, and would do anything to win that is allowed. Which is a juxtaposition to his affable, happy go lucky, public persona.
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He didn't really need to try and nick the UK title off Skelton again. But, it was a demonstration of power and a show of arrogance. It was quite funny how Ruby went to Gordon Elliott to interview him for rtv. Definite shades of patronising there, telling Gordon how well he has done for the season so far, how well he does every year at DR, and all of his yard can't be winter horses lol.
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First time visor, sorry and I dont wish to argue, BUT i am 100% correct, they absolutely were illegal drugs for anti bleeding etc and others .
Nothing to do with regular remedies.. Vets dont get struck off for a few years for buying legal drugs from the wrong vendor... |
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The British Horseracing Authority has charged a veterinary surgeon who works for champion trainer Willie Mullins with passing on inside information. He has been called to appear before a BHA disciplinary hearing in July.
Tim Brennan is accused of informing his brother about an injury to Faugheen shortly before information became public that the hot favourite for the 2016 Champion Hurdle at Cheltenham would miss the race. Michael Brennan is alleged to have subsequently placed 'lay' bets against the horse in betting markets with liabilities of several thousand euro. He refused to cooperate with a BHA investigation and was declared a disqualified person from the sport in October of 2016. If found guilty of breaking BHA rules relating to commissioning or conspiring in corrupt or fraudulent practises Tim Brennan could be banned from racecourses and licensed premises. Mullins is not involved in the case and the BHA has said there is no suggestion he or staff members at his Co Carlow stables were aware of Tim Brennan’s alleged actions. Mullins was unavailable for comment on Monday. Last year Brennan pleaded guilty to possession of unauthorised medicines following the discovery of unlicensed substances in his van at Mullins’s yard. No conviction was recorded against him after it was judged the offences were “purely regulatory.” Faugheen had been an odds on favourite for the 2016 Champion Hurdle until Mullins revealed he had suffered a ligament injury and would miss the rest of that season. Prior to Mullins’s announcement Faugheen’s price on betting exchanges drifted to odds against. Later that year the BHA revealed it was investigating suspicious betting patterns surrounding the withdrawal of the horse. The BHA disciplinary hearing is due to be heard on July 16th and 17th. |
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Willie Mullins, absolute top trainer, the finest and seemingly getting better and better, good luck to him.
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I agree with you but there is something very incongruous about this win.
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I agree with honcho lovely word BTW had to Google it and I like to think I know everything
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Oneten, I have no great desire to argue either but I don't want to say nothing when you are 100% wrong with the facts. The vet was never struck off. He got a rap on the knuckles with a fine of a couple of grand for not paying Revenue. The drugs were not illegal which is important to point out and Willie Mullins never had any case to answer and nor was he asked to by the authotities.
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