Breeders Cup Friday Thread

Good luck uncle, hope it is not 10 minutes wasted.

Good luck.

I spent a good deal more than 10 minutes because I don't follow US racing, and I don't approve of just throwing money away. Intrepido is the only one of yours that I have backed, and the only one at shorter than double figures. At the moment got one in everything except the Turf Sprint, Distaff, and Dirt Mile. Did a preview last year, but there clearly isn't much interest. The biggest name of the week was forced to pull out and nothing. I assume there are people who do specialise, but they don't seem prepared to put anything up.

City Of Troy was obviously quite a big story, hyped up by the connections themselves. I suspect most UK race fans find dirt racing distinctly uninteresting, and it's quite brutal viewing at times. So if there's no european interest in them, it's meh. Plus the turf tracks are so tight, invariably there are hard luck stories. However there remains betting angle bc 101, euro horses for turf and lay/oppose them on dirt. It is blatantly obvious to everyone, but the opportunities still come. Not that many try the dirt these days.

fwiw Appleby is always straight up about his horses, did a good interview running through them on rtv last night. He is particularly keen on Cinderellas Dream.

I think the two biggest flat meetings of the year are Royal Ascot and the Breeders Cup. It wouldn't bother me if there were no European runners, although it is good to see the competition. As for hard luck stories you will get plenty over here, and bad rides are commonplace. Once a year I am quite happy to embrace US racing.

As for Cinderella's Dream happy to swerve. She has disappointed too many times - beaten favourite three out of her last four, is far from certain to stay, and is a relatively short price.

Not a tip, just passing on Appleby's thoughts. He went for CD as his most likely winner over NS. NS is a lot shorter. So it is notable imo (pardon the pun).

Of course you get bad luck stories here, and draw influenced outcomes. But probably more likely at Chester than York! It's almost guaranteed to impact every race over there on the turf. The tight turns, big fields and short straights don't lend themselves to good racing, but there are good horses running.

Not a tip, just passing on Appleby's thoughts. He went for CD as his most likely winner over NS. NS is a lot shorter. So it is notable imo (pardon the pun).

Of course you get bad luck stories here, and draw influenced outcomes. But probably more likely at Chester than York! It's almost guaranteed to impact every race over there on the turf. The tight turns, big fields and short straights don't lend themselves to good racing, but there are good horses running.

Precise out?

Yes, non starter.  You can't win from an outside draw at Del Mar.

got the CHESTER COUGH

Very disappointing to lose arguably the best 2 and 3 year old.

Also disappointing for anyone who opposed both and now faced with a very large Rule 4 in both races.

Weird seeing Frankie on a load of rags.

Can't wait for the US coverage to kick in. At the moment you are faced with a choice between Bull and Dwyer or Collins and Orton. Almost feel sorry for Collins having to sit next to that loudmouth.

9.45  Schwarzenegger, 12 looks a bit big, each way chances for Mr Ward.
10.25 Tommy Jo got the race in the stewards room last time but still looks good enough, 7.8, win and first three.
11.05 Dutching  Pacific Mission who was maybe undone by the soft last time and Imaginationthelady, a farewell retirement prezzie for Frankie?
11.45 Ted Noffey
00.25 Gstaad

Good luck whatever you are on.

Del Mar weekend of bonus money imv….

Laying & place laying the European horses…..

any live pics

Live pics on Betfair LV.

600k on tote, horse is 4.7 5 seconds before the off, goes off 2.7 890k matched on tote, so the big pros wait to the off before lumping up to 300k on the winner

On rtv later

Arc day much bigger for me than these self proclaimed world championships (what a joke that is)...

No interest in the dirt races, and the turf races tonight dont look great either...

not staying up to watch it all....

good luck to those who have a bet and an interest.

Precise a non runner in the Fillies Turf.

I think this renewal is nothing special. I cannot even name a horse that I'd like to see running - not even tomorrow.

bugs... Breederscup.com free live on track coverage. Just have to enter your e-mail address.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/288226/dollars-and-sense-portnoy-fuels-debate-over-caw

https://jockeyclub.com/default.asp?section=RT&year=2023&area=5

2 good pieces regarding the impact of CAWS (computer assisted wagering) on the price changes just before the off in relation to Angela's post

Thanks rog.

Laying all AOB runners win and plaice, within reason just because I cant be arsed doing too much research and I won a bit today

Oct 31, 2025 -- 9:48PM, Jacko2017 wrote:

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/288226/dollars-and-sense-portnoy-fuels-debate-over-cawhttps://jockeyclub.com/default.asp?section=RT&year=2023&area=52 good pieces regarding the impact of CAWS (computer assisted wagering) on the price changes just before the off in relation to Angela's post

Cheers Jacko

He presented images of an Oct. 17 race at Keeneland in which a horse is 8-1 just before the gates open, 7-1 just after the start, 4-1 just seven seconds later, and 3-1 when it crosses the wire as the winner.

"That's an almost 63% drop from the price the horse was going into the gate," Mutnansky notes. "Even if you bet on the winner, you felt like you had money taken right out of your wallet."

Very interesting. Makes it crazy to be on. The horse I saw did very similar after the off, 4.7 into 2.7 !

9.45 Intricate Spirit 16/1 R4
10.25 Super Corredora 16/1 Ante-Post
11.05 Final Accord 20/1 R4
11.45 Intrepido 7/1 Ante-Post
12.25 Street Beast 16/1

All each-way. Can't hope to do as well as last year, but hopefully something will balance the books.

Fright night for punters

How can you back on the tote with any confidence if a horse can halve in price after the off, and that's in a pool with over half a million already in it !

Brussels very unlucky, would have won with a clean break imo

Brussels the winner if not for the start, lost half a dozen lenghts on the winner

https://x.com/stoolpresidente/status/1984340802898952572

This is the owner of barstool sports huge gambler with nearly 4 million followers on twitter alone he has been complaining about it for months its widely believed and rumoured that the tracks own majority of the caws and allow most of the bets placed after the race has started

Jockey thought he was running in the
DERBI

Sounds like a maga
The owner-winner
What a load of tosh he said

Oct 31, 2025 -- 10:52PM, Jacko2017 wrote:

https://x.com/stoolpresidente/status/1984340802898952572This is the owner of barstool sports huge gambler with nearly 4 million followers on twitter alone he has been complaining about it for months its widely believed and rumoured that the tracks own majority of the caws and allow most of the bets placed after the race has started

In the example I gave 600k wagered, then about 300k more next update with almost all on the 4.7 odds horse to take it into 2.7

Must be a huge syndicate with crazy confidence

Love it

They have confidence in their algorhitm

They dont have an opinion

Bad clothing, but enjoying it and not caring for the maga haters!

100 % busyfool i saw a Post with screenshots the other day horse was 14s and ended up winning at evens American gamblers are going crazy about it for a long time but seems that its goneto another level this year they appear to be rarely wrong which i find to be the most bizarre aspect of it

Dont know what anyone else's thoughts are but personally in the juvenile fillies 10.25 I'd have Battle of Rouge as favourite instead of Explora .

Very game.

18.5 BFSP. Gun Runner proving it's still loving the mile distance given last 2 runs compared to first 2 runs !

Well done DD

Matched 370 ir

I got 3 

Thanks Brandy, nice to know you can't lose after two races. Horse had been well supported in the last couple of days, and it was a positive ride from a widish draw.

Queen of Hawaii didn’t look the most alert in her stable there or maybe  she is just one cool customer

Adam Beschizza riding in the next.  his last season in UK total earnings £164,451

moves to US in 2018, total earnings $38.3 million

U.S coverage miles ahead of our rubbish

NBC have 2 geezers putting up bets and starting with a bank of 1k are both miles in front. At tote prices

Youd never see that here

“Very good railskimming ride”.  New line to me but a brilliant ride by Murphy.

Great ride Murphy.
Differentdrum
wd
   GL

Del Mar weekend of bonus money imv….

Laying & place laying the European horses…..

hope ya not spent the bonus money formy.  it just flew out the window ...

DOBs mrs. is a worth a wallop

Ted has some Elusive Quality in him like the last winner
Is it any help on the dirt???
Wouldn’t be inclined to oppose if I were betting

I’m very for Ted Noffey to beat Brant in the match but no value in it sadly.

Some great racing here tonight.  Game as a pebble.

May not be that much of a disadvantage for Gstaad to be drawn wide
Hardly built for rail-hugging!

Wd.

15k BFSP North Coast 5.0 having been trading at 30+ moments before. Crazy

That yard has the sport by the bollocks.

Send more money 

Not sure if that is criticism or worship STEO.?

Nov 1, 2025 -- 1:37AM, LoyalHoncho wrote:

Not sure if that is criticism or worship STEO.?

Not sure myself........Funnily enough I never seem to be on his when they win!

I was on Gstaad when it was beat in the Dewhurst. Plumped for Outfielder today. No joy.

Same here STEO.  His/their winners always seem to elude me too.
Entertaining podium interviews post race presentation.

Nov 1, 2025 -- 1:42AM, LoyalHoncho wrote:

Same here STEO.

Thankful for the one winner. Street Beast ran pretty well in the last, particularly as he got caught up in the early pace skirmish. That early pace made it so much easier for the favourite to get a reasonable position.

Balantina was the annoying result having backed her at a big price in the Albany - pretty sure I wrote on here about Marquand getting too far back - and then when she looked all over a winner in France. In hindsight that was a very good run. Sadly, her very poor effort last time, high draw, and uncertainty about the distance was enough to put me off. Now they have seemingly found her ideal - held up, fast pace, good ground - she might take another step forward. I was hoping for a bit more than the 25/1 for the 1000 Guineas.