AK bets getting slaughtered on twitter.

Utter two bob flimpers.
Busytool thinks otherwise

I opened an account with them 6 months ago.lost a packet early doors, a couple of very close shaves but that's punting right..won it back and now about level. They're taking big bets off me, maybe because I was losing to start with.

Did i hear that you can't take a price until after 11am ?

Correct Irons

I get on fine with them. You are jealous

He’s stopped marking up till 12pm,low trade etc,which is fine,but it looks like it’s to stop some getting a bigger price.
He’s perfectly allowed to do this.

At least he puts himself out there,he’s done well,promotes his company.shame he’s getting slaughtered over small bets ,prices.

It’s not just twitter he’s getting slaughtered
On, I watched his last podcast, and he’s getting
Lots of negatives there too, almost all having a go.

Apparently his ante post prices on the 2yo race at Donny
Were a disgrace. Hé was chunks under on everything, hé
Was 4s thé winner, when everyone was 8s midweek

Looks and sounds like a bit of a charlatan ? Was mocking
Punters on the track for having 7k to 4 when their was 4/6 on
Next board.

Hé Can apparently see there been no racing offered in the shops
In the near future, as the product is way too expensive
In fact he’s anti racing, and encouraging other bookies to boycott racing
To get costs down

Busytool does not bet,Nap

Poncho.
I would bet odds on there will be no pics in entain  shops within  3 years.
Hope you are well.
Ronnie.

Wow, that’s very interesting Ronnie, Is It cost
Of the racing product ?? And lack of interest from
New generation of punters ??

Disagree,
He just likes a good moan,at least he’s open and put himself up for critism,

He’s done well,got a masters,then got a job in a betting shop in Ireland,learned his trade,then set up on his own,
Big jump though from employee to setting up,ambitious and he’s like blogger,puts himself out there,
Hates the curragh cos no ring in front,loves punchestown cos queuing round the corner.
He layed Rory ,best price,

Think is spat here is,he felt this guy was being crafty,clever,so basically said,you’re not fooling me.
But sometimes it’s better to lose a battle,to win a war.

Heston blunemental had him over,but when he moans about increased tax,I’m sure he’ll be putting the fat duck bill on his expenses.moaned about(common theme),cost of accommodation at chelt for his staff.thats how the punters feel.

With ,fat duck,accomdation,all his expenses,plus 100ew on ponieros.hes re booked for next year.
Fat duck 5k
Accomdation 5k
Full trip 5 k
Ponieros 17.5k

Extra tax ,2k this will destroy the industry,it’s pointless betting on racing.

Poncho.
It is the cost very very  sad to say the shops have lost the race to race punters  nobody  watching  it called in paddy power  in Cheltenham  high  Street yesterday to watch the last race not one person in.
Ronnie

I don’t cuth, just relaying what was on YT ?
Never heard of him or ak bets until the other
Day. I think the idea of the PC’s are exposure
And generate interest in his business.

But look is hé any different to all the other
Books who won’t take a bet or close accounts down ??

Ta Ronnie, No punters in Cheltenham shop, on a Saturday

Future young customers.

More 18-25 year olds have been racing than been to a premier league game.

Bookies syphon off these new customers to footy,then spins.
Then say,young people aren’t interested in racing.but racing helps attract new customers.

Would be interesting to know.

The percentage breakdown of first bet on new accounts.

Say racing is 30%,the bookies aren’t going to shut the avenue of new customers of 30% because media rights are expensive.

Ultimately,if it was a scorched earth situation,the bookies need racing,more than racing needs the bookies.

Racing could go it alone with a tote,sellable in newsagents,tescos etc,like lottery tickets.and on course.

No one ever opens a betfair account,thinking,I love roulette,can’t wait to start playing.

Yeah to most that, but I can’t imagine the 18 to 25 olds
Winning on racing or football, I’d imagine a lot of them
Ain’t got a clue

Barstewards gave it to him both barrels a couple of weeks back over the not pricing up the racing early doors.

Nop point pricing if you don't want to Lay,duffy and they clearly don't

on this bet the bloke was betting on anytime goal scorer, AK hadn't laid a bet was just reacting to others cutting the odds, not sure if they were reacting to opposition team news or smelled a rat to cut the odds,but banning a bloke for having 20 quid on a goal scorer at 11 to 2 instead of 4,s come on,YOU AINT NO FOOKING BOOKMAKER YOUR A NUMBERS MAN/ACCOUNTANT IN SHIRT AND JEANS

1STP.
Go  to any racecourse  watch the prices  change every  race without  a punter  in sight.
Hope you are well.
Ronnie.

yes ,Ronnie  but how many times on Saturdays do we hear/see horse drifting back out because bookies saying they havnt stood a bet so want to get money for horse X in the hod so lengthen the odds

betting shop manager doesn't know the difference between price movements in racing and NFL anytime touchdown scorer markets

^^

punter in question wasn't giving AK any genuine business, chinning the account completely fine here

punters whinging about account restrictions has been done to death, so boring.

The only difference here is that AK does try and claim he's somehow different. But behaviour like has happened will see you get closed across the entire industry IMO. A complete non-event which has blown up. Ah well - gave us some entertainment for an evening

1st time poster 27 Oct 25 09:10 
on this bet the bloke was betting on anytime goal scorer, AK hadn't laid a bet was just reacting to others cutting the odds, not sure if they were reacting to opposition team news or smelled a rat to cut the odds,but banning a bloke for having 20 quid on a goal scorer at 11 to 2 instead of 4,s come on,YOU AINT NO FOOKING BOOKMAKER YOUR A NUMBERS MAN/ACCOUNTANT IN SHIRT AND JEANS

He was betting on an Eagles receiver to score a TD, don't know the facts for certain but I'm guessing that the AK traders had not reacted to the fact that the Eagles main pass catcher AJ Brown was out injured which would have logically shortened the other receivers as they were likely in line for greater share of targets.

What I'd like to know is what were the prices of the other players like, were they all out of line or was it just Dotson that was missed, Goeddert, Barkley also scored but their primary receiver, Smith, didn't.

closing an account because somebody had 20 quid @ 2/1 an NFL TD scorer when it was 7/4 best price elsewhere claiming the 2/1 was a "stale price"

he is rightly getting a coating for this

He can try to dress it up but,the fact remains that he is a two bob flimper

less than that uti

its 61p of EV on the 2/1 bet & 92p of EV on the 11/2 bet

...would have cost them £1.53 of EV to suck it up

listening to the podcast that didn't reveal that much AK alludes to the prices getting cut because of injuries/team news etc

traders have to be on top of things like this 1tp otherwise don't offer the markets or stfu imo

it isn't the same as somebody eg betting a football team at the old price when a goal has been scored
that's a stale price

just listening to the podcast now he's doubling down on the 2/1 being "way out of line" when 7/4 is available elsewhere

Brown was being reported out on Friday, the game was Sunday, they were sleeping, you can't punish a punter for spotting it, what are we supposed to do when we see a price bigger than we think it should be, phone customer services first to check that it's OK, shutting the punter down smacks of spitefullness, "I'll f00k1ng show him"

and he openly admits he doesn't follow the NFL but is shouting his mouth off

exactly duffy its fair game the bets he's had imo

now he's comparing it to a politics bet requested by a different account £100 @ 66/1 that was cut to 5/1 in minutes

exactly how is that relevant to this situation when 2/1 was laid for £20 & 7/4 was available with other firms

see on twitter this guy has posted his bets up

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G4N2XttX0AAQ2r4?format=jpg&name=large

nfl, ryder cup, champions league outright, glorious goodwood, galway festival & king george

The guy placed the bets two days after Brown was reported out!!!! iF it was moments after the report you could understand AK being pi55ed off but all that should have happened then was giving the bloke a ring and offering him a job monitoring team news.

The Kittle bet is worse because there was no team news that altered things in that game, it was only Kittle's second game back from injury and last week he had zero receptions. The only thing that might suggest that Kittle might see an increase in targets is that yesterday was "national tight ends day" which is a light hearted celebration of the position that was the brain child in part of George ittle, but he was 2/1 which more than reflects this.

So all this carp is about a 20 quid bet ? Ffs
What an absolute **** head. Never stoop so low
For so little ?? My grandad used to advise

He deserves all the flak he’s getting, how dare you
Nick a point and a half off me, Eh ?  I’m now closing
You down, oh dear

Every man can be trusted below a certain figure, this
***** is 15 quid, Jesus

AK, surname is kasimikas ?? Where’s thst
From, has  an orish accent ?

MANCHESTER ?

Unfortunately in the modern world with social media freely available, if you mess with the wrong fella it can very well come back and bite you and that's what happened here, a PR dsaster. Many more, although rightly annoyed just go quietly, not in this case though.

Yeah duff, absolute car crash for this ****
And all avoidable, no class, no depth, If it were
Me, I’d of said, nice one, and paid thé punter
His pittance?? Arrogance?? Arrogance is always
Supported by ignorance, it appears AK has both,
In abundance

Me, now I’d contact the punter, apologise, say
Sorry I think I was a bit hasty the other day, I was
Having a bad day, we all have em, and here’s
A free 20 quid bet on a future NFL match??

Hé can still get of this ?? ATM every one looking
A twitter, has him down as a complete ****** ?
And all for pennies.

would have been so much better PR to smooth it over
send an email apologies account is reopened
an error on our part

just to inform you we should have been 7/4 that bet you had at 2/1
and 4/1 that bet you had at 11/2
all bets on this account from now on will be forwarded to trader for approval

or something similar

but instead he's put his size 9s in

all this over 1 pound & 53 pence of expected value

Yup, but it appears thsts his character??
Little things affect little minds??

Ian
@brodders_be
I didn't request a larger bet size - the bets were referred to the Traders who
could have offered a lower price of [sic] the one being advertised was wrong.
2:47 PM · Oct 27, 2025

as has already been said on this thread, not worth the hassle this firm

It gets worse, palpable error then

The traders???  Plural ?? It looks like he’s  a one man band ??
Whats Calvin doing, getting involved with this bloke??
Guilty by association?? He’s fallen off a cliff, Calvin ??

Isn't Brodders the footy guy on Channing's Betting Emporium site?

simple case of
punter sees a few small arbs to pay for a few beers later that night
ak traders were not paying your bar bill mate

AK said the 2 bets he had ,both won,and we hadn’t moved price.

So the question is.
Does the customer bet best price other touchdowns scorers on other days,and do they win.

If the bookies are all the same price,does he not both having a bet.

When AK says,hes in the industry or knows people in the industry,

How can industry knowledge ,help knowing who will score a touchdown.

AK said you would be banned even if the bet was 50p saying the bet was miniscule,irrelevant,meaning he thinks.thought has said punters like this [ his words ] are taking the piss ,nieve if they think they,ll continue to get on

How can industry knowledge ,help knowing who will score a touchdown.

surely similar to a football match 1st goalsorer?

I don't have specific knowledge about the anytime touchdown market, but I used to be heavily involved laying on the anytime football scorer market (the prices used to be too short back in the day) and they are one of the worst value bets you can have with a bookmaker.  I suspect the same is true in the NFL equivalent, especially post COVID with the increased bookie margins.  He may have beaten the general market price, but that doesn't mean he got value in a market which likely has massive margins built in. 

My initial take is there's nothing especially shrewd looking at this fellow's bets on his account.  He's just not a complete mug.  He's not betting often so he's clearly responsible and in control.  Very much has the look of how I would bet way back in the day when I was betting casually for interest every now and then, but had a little bit of a clue, but not enough to make a long term profit.  Maybe he did achieve value on the NFL.  Maybe he didn't.  If he did achieve value on those bets it isn't a reason to close the account.  It's whether he achieved value on average over all his bets and the evidence is he hasn't.  The lowest price matched on Juventus in September on Betfair was 70 and he took 67 with bad ew terms.  The horse racing bets are not shrewd on the face of it.  Jan Brueghel drifted and went off 5/2.  Dunum drifted and went off 12/1 (no BOG) and the ew terms were bad. The two outsiders went off 20/1 and 33/1, but outsiders often trade 2 or 3 times bigger on the exchange, and prolly more symptomatic of huge SP over rounds.

It's sad if closing accounts has come down to this level tbh

on numerous times around royal ascot/iris classics etc, AK used the podcast to say he had eyes/faces in AOB yard that marked their card for them before pricing a race,
so AK can use info not available to public/punters to take money of punters,but you cant use public info that you react to quicker than AK to take money of him

ttt

Busytool claims to have had 47 bets with the two bob flimper and is unrestricted

Did you come off the forum for tea Iron ?

Wrong Ironer


You misseed the connection

Although you are a serial loser,Aceform,I do not regard you as a moron.Unlike Busytool
BTW,Tea is in the afternoon for those that take it

Post your P&L then

Mention a P&L and Billy Big Gonads does the off