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The Cheltenham Festival could undergo its biggest change since a fourth day was added 20 years ago after it emerged early consideration is being given to running jump racing's showpiece fixture from Wednesday to Saturday.

There has yet to be any stakeholder discussion around what Cheltenham chief executive Guy Lavender stresses is still nothing more than "a concept", yet the mere acknowledgement thought is being given to such a significant development is sure to stimulate debate.


https://www.racingpost.com/news/festivals/cheltenham-festival/cheltenham-festival-could-be-held-from-wednesday-to-saturday-as-course-begins-to-consider-radical-move-aPDhW4I3tyuO/

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By:
leif
When: 19 Oct 25 19:13
Racegoers left during covid and many won't return, either dead or fed up of being ripped-off.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 19 Oct 25 19:21
Pack the place out on a Saturday with more non-racing fans, ruining it for the genuine racing ran, to make a few more quid.
By:
uptheirons
When: 19 Oct 25 19:24
The blind leading the blindLaugh
By:
uptheirons
When: 19 Oct 25 19:29
The cost of staying there is ridiculous compared to the same Hotels when the Festival is not on.
Like "Wall Street" where greed is good.
I hope they go to the wall
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 19 Oct 25 19:30
Met Lavendar on Wednesday
He didint mention this at ALL

Probably using his mcc experience
to spool up the costs of the FESTIVAL

Shocked
By:
leif
When: 19 Oct 25 19:31
I think you may be right Swifty.
Just get the students in to buy food and overpriced pishwater.
They'll be betting on their phones.
By:
salmon spray
When: 20 Oct 25 12:06
Didn't the third day used to be a Saturday ?
By:
Coneygree1971
When: 20 Oct 25 13:26
I only remember it as Wednesday - Friday but possibly in the 60's/70's. Wed - Sat is a terrible idea as the racing would have to be switched to ITV4 on the Sat due to clash with the 6 Nations rugby. Won't happen. BHA need to lay down the law here. Racecourses far too much power.
By:
saxon farm
When: 20 Oct 25 13:36
It was Tuesday to Thursday until about 20 years ago.

Strangely the 1964 Gold Cup……Arkle v Mill House was run on a Saturday.
By:
jimnast
When: 20 Oct 25 13:39
Quite incredible that in 1964 the bbc requested the fixture to be Thursday Friday Saturday so they could show arkle v mill house the racecourse delivered there request.
By:
jimnast
When: 20 Oct 25 13:40
I don’t remember Wednesday to Friday coneygree only Tuesday to Thursday.
By:
jimnast
When: 20 Oct 25 13:42
I really do hope it stays Tuesday to Friday as at the moment 75% of the fixture is a pleasant experience if they went Wednesday Saturday then only 50% would be pleasant
By:
penzance
When: 20 Oct 25 13:42
Saturday,Uttoxeter National clash,they wont be happy.
By:
jimnast
When: 20 Oct 25 13:55
No they won’t Penzance and rightly so kempton also has races that day for horses who didn’t get in at Cheltenham although that’s no history or tradition behind it.

From a tv point of view competing with the 6 nations is futile l
By:
penzance
When: 20 Oct 25 14:02
They can't squeeze enough out of the meeting.
By:
acey deucy
When: 20 Oct 25 14:13
Sounds like a good idea to me.
By:
jimnast
When: 20 Oct 25 14:15
Absolutely Penzance which surprises me because I can’t see a full house on Saturday with much less hospitality having a bigger all round turnover than the Tuesday .

From my point of view the only plus is a better journey home Saturday
By:
salmon spray
When: 20 Oct 25 14:31
Yes I remember watching Mill House v Arkle on what must have been a Sat as otherwise I doubt I would have had an excuse to bunk off school.
Actually I think in that case the racecourse were right to give in to the BBC but I might be biased of course    Grin
By:
wondersobright
When: 20 Oct 25 14:35
they need it banged out all 4 days
not 40k on a weds ie day 2
By:
differentdrum
When: 20 Oct 25 18:29
Not sure which days it took place on when it first started, but 1964 the only Saturday in more recent times.

It wouldn't bother me which day it was on. It's more of a question for those who still attend. The Derby moved to a Saturday so it's probably a surprise the Festival has stayed in place for so long. Never understood the fuss over the Six Nations.
By:
leif
When: 20 Oct 25 18:48
"We can't be traditional forever"
No, and when you diluted it by stretching it out over 4 days, adding meaningless races which left trainers with too many options, ya royally f4ck3d it up.
With the prospect of less NH horses entering the scene (Blakey has expressed his concerns recently) in years to come, we'll see how the 4 day regime pans out be it Tues/Fri or the ground-breaking weds/Sat.
good luck.
By:
formoftheace
When: 20 Oct 25 19:00
Tuesday,Wednesday and Thursday would be more welcome tbh…..imo….

Fodder cash always in their thoughts….
By:
windsor knot
When: 20 Oct 25 19:07
saturday gold cup ? great idea . i mean, look how well it went for the derby . hmmm......
By:
barstool
When: 20 Oct 25 19:10
If they do change it then have all the Handicaps on A Saturday and and just have 6 top grade races a day on the other three.
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 20 Oct 25 19:23
Probably the Gold cup should be run at
UTTOXER

After the Midlands Grand NATIONAL
Laugh
By:
Hibore
When: 20 Oct 25 20:21
How many on here actually go to Festival ? Normally lots of negativity and excuses why you wouldn’t bother as it’s the worst place in world.
Not big issue if they move Weds - Sat to be honest as long as they keep reduced crowd sizes as they are. I’ll be there all week as long as I can.
By:
Cider
When: 20 Oct 25 20:38
What's the upside meant to be? GC day is the one that there's no problems filling anyway.
By:
mrs peopleater
When: 20 Oct 25 20:40
what a poor idea, look what happened to attendances at the Derby when they moved it from a wednesday to the saturday.
should move the festival back to the 3 days on tue, wed and thur
By:
Cider
When: 20 Oct 25 20:45
Most of the reasons why the festival appears to be in decline can't be easily reversed. WM domination, nope. Overkill, nope. It won't be slimmed down and there won't be less racing on the telly.
By:
paulybad
When: 20 Oct 25 20:50
Most purists would prefer it revert to a better quality 3 day meeting.
By:
Cider
When: 20 Oct 25 20:53
won't happen. perhaps something radical like 7 day final decs for graded races. at least would allow for proper previews. trainers and jockeys would hate it obs
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 20 Oct 25 21:06
Met the Lavendar guy Wednesday
His all new proposals ALL
relate to the NEW punters(on phone)
ergo-Club 18-30 MOB

Anyone over 35 is NOT considered
worth talking too

Devil
By:
nocturnal
When: 20 Oct 25 21:44
Shambolic starting procedures.

Artificial round preparation.

False going reports.

Inflated over-rounds.

Multiple single horse entries.

Handicap system from two different countries.

Highly dubious SP system.


The gentle art of deception .... Lets start addressing the real reasons for once.
By:
ponchoslament
When: 20 Oct 25 22:03
Excellent post Nocturnal
By:
differentdrum
When: 20 Oct 25 22:36
Yes, good reminder, getting the starts right should be the top priority for any changes. Not heard anything on how that is going to be achieved.
By:
fullset
When: 21 Oct 25 00:22
How did it go when the Derby was moved .? Disastrous.  Why would this be any different?
By:
paulo47
When: 21 Oct 25 08:46
Exactly Nocturnal , the multiple entries fiasco is worse every year , force them to choose and pay big bucks for a supplementation .
By:
Joe Lampton
When: 21 Oct 25 10:28
If they do change it then have all the Handicaps on A Saturday and and just have 6 top grade races a day on the other three.

This is 100% correct. They tell us that we all want the extra handicaps so what could be better than putting them all on the Saturday. Be a proper 3 days of racing Wed-Fri then.
By:
FBS
When: 21 Oct 25 10:31
Should revert back to 3 days only, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.
And move back the Derby to midweek.
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