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Report formoftheace October 16, 2025 2:01 PM BST
I still use spray and gel on the supermarket trolley…..lot’s out there with poor hygiene and no respect tbh….
Report Angela Rebecchi October 16, 2025 2:04 PM BST
Lots of people seem to cough and make no attempts to direct it away from others, what is wrong with these people ?
Report DancingBraveTheBest October 16, 2025 2:06 PM BST
Every year when the weather changes people get the sniffles and colds....always have , always will......covid my arrisPlain
Report formoftheace October 16, 2025 2:18 PM BST
Fill yourself with good fresh fruit and vegetables you’ll seldom sniff and cough tbf.

Decades since i suffered cold and spluttering all over the place tbh…..
Report Cider October 16, 2025 2:20 PM BST
Don't tell Crusty for God's sake!
Report DancingBraveTheBest October 16, 2025 2:22 PM BST
Last time I was ill was the 1 year I had the flu vaccine.....about 15 years ago and I still kick myself for having it......agreed....plenty of good food, sleep and exercise.
Report Kriskin October 16, 2025 2:27 PM BST
WTF is covid - how would one know they had it.  Is it not another name for the general cold.
Report formoftheace October 16, 2025 2:28 PM BST
I point blank refuse the flu jab……
Report Facts October 16, 2025 2:44 PM BST
" .. another name for the general cold... "


God protect us from such utter idiots Cry
Report formoftheace October 16, 2025 2:48 PM BST
Certainly wiped out the high street……
Report Mick Sturbs October 16, 2025 2:51 PM BST

Oct 16, 2025 -- 2:04PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:


Lots of people seem to cough and make no attempts to direct it away from others, what is wrong with these people ?


as the old joke says if they cough near you tell them to go far ....far coughBlush

Report formoftheace October 16, 2025 2:53 PM BST
All in the upbringing Mick….tbf….
Report DancingBraveTheBest October 16, 2025 2:55 PM BST
Facts......another one who name calls others he dont agree with .....everyone entitled to their own opinionSad
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 3:02 PM BST

Oct 16, 2025 -- 2:20PM, Cider wrote:


Don't tell Crusty for God's sake!


hey Ratman, it’s me, living inside your head. You are feeling very sleepy, imagine you’ve read one of your own jokes.

Report Facts October 16, 2025 3:03 PM BST
It's not my ' opinion' !! The 227,000 who died in the UK from Covid suggests it wasn't from having a cold.
Report saddo October 16, 2025 3:09 PM BST
Death registrations with COVID-19 mentioned on the death certificate by week.

Average 85 a week for the last month
Report saddo October 16, 2025 3:11 PM BST
* Your hysterical response is quite bizarre.
Report DancingBraveTheBest October 16, 2025 3:12 PM BST
Facts ....you are the one calling people "utter idiots" for having a different opinion to you....also I dont believe them figures at all.....someone who got knocked over and killed by a moving vehicle was put down as dying of supposed covid.....the figures were massively manipulated to sell the jib jabs.....u believe what you believe ....i'll believe what I believe but i dont go around calling you an utter idiot.
Report formoftheace October 16, 2025 3:16 PM BST
The circus on the Thames can put out any old nonsense and the sheep will follow…..and fold tbh….
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 3:18 PM BST
Too right, you can see the conspiracy theory muppets out in force already, the plate in their head starts to throb when they see the word ‘covid’
Report DancingBraveTheBest October 16, 2025 3:20 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report formoftheace October 16, 2025 3:23 PM BST
Certainly wasn’t nonsense regarding covid but no need for country lockdown imv…..

I never missed a beat at work and got through it without a sniff….
Report elise October 16, 2025 3:31 PM BST
part time fluffer?
Report Mr Spock October 16, 2025 3:32 PM BST
I had Covid, 5 days on a ventilator and 6 months recovery. I have only regained about 60% of the fitness I had before it. It is real.
Report elise October 16, 2025 3:39 PM BST
all the best spock, live long and prosper
Report Cider October 16, 2025 3:40 PM BST
hey Ratman, it’s me, living inside your head. You are feeling very sleepy, imagine you’ve read one of your own jokes.


42 minutes Laugh


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Report Mr Spock October 16, 2025 3:41 PM BST
Thanks Elise
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 3:41 PM BST
Go back to sleep Ratman Laugh
Report formoftheace October 16, 2025 3:41 PM BST
elise 16 Oct 25 15:31 
part time fluffer?

Harsh tbf….
Report howard October 16, 2025 3:41 PM BST
I still use spray and gel...  surprised Rico hasn't replied
Report Cider October 16, 2025 3:45 PM BST
covid is real, but there's fück all anyone can do about it, just like the dozens of other things that can make you unwell or get injured.
Report elise October 16, 2025 3:46 PM BST
soz david, i thought you cut back on the hours, still full time then
Report formoftheace October 16, 2025 3:52 PM BST
Retired couple of years back….

Was working when they locked everyone in their home…
Report GEORGE.B October 16, 2025 3:56 PM BST
RE: Ventilators, an article written right at the start of the "pandemic" by an American critical care consultant.

Did time show his concerns about the use of them in the "covid" setting to be correct?
Answers on a postcard...

by Dr Matt Strauss

'More ventilators!’ cried the journalists on Twitter. 'Yes, more ventilators!' replied the politicians. ‘Where are the ventilators?’ demanded the journalists, now screaming on television. ‘Yes, even more!’ replied the government, somewhat nonsensically.

I am a critical care physician, specialising in the use of such machines. I’m flattered by all the attention our tools are receiving. But I fear the current clamour reminds me of nothing so much as the panic buyers of toilet-paper stampeding over each other in early March. When the history of the Covid-19 pandemic in the Western world is written, I do not believe 'massive ramp-up of ventilator manufacturing,' will be credited with our deliverance. Let me explain why.

Ventilators do not cure any disease. They can fill your lungs with air when you find yourself unable to do so yourself. They are associated with lung diseases in the public’s consciousness, but this is not in fact their most common or most appropriate application. There are many reasons a person might not be able to fill their lungs with air. Undergoing a major abdominal surgery under general anaesthesia is perhaps chief among them. Other causes of coma, like drug intoxication or head trauma, also necessitate mechanical ventilation. While some neurological disorders, such as Guillain-Barré syndrome or polio, leave a person awake, but too weak to work the bellows of the lung (the diaphragm.) In all of these cases, the ventilator pushes fresh air containing oxygen into healthy lungs which can transmit the oxygen to the bloodstream.

Conversely, when a person has a severe lung problem, you might imagine that some proportion of their lung tissue continues to receive air when they breath, but fails to transmit this oxygen to the bloodstream. To compensate for these malfunctioning bits of lung tissue, the person breathes harder and faster, as though they were running a marathon.

One can only run a marathon for so long before those same bellows of the lung fatigue, and eventually fail. My job is to identify those folks before their lungs stop working, and to put a plastic tube down their windpipe, hooking it up to a ventilator to do their breathing for them. This drastic step is generally predicated on the hope that I can do something to treat their lung problem and liberate them from their ventilator dependence within a few days. This might typically involve antibiotics for a bacterial pneumonia, or anti-inflammatories for asthma.

Clinical trials of new and old medications are ongoing. But right now, I am sorry to say there is no proven treatment for Covid-19 infection. It is therefore at least conceivable that putting patients on ventilators for Covid-19 pneumonia could be a bridge to nowhere. Now of course, hope springs eternal. The patient may recover on their own while we keep them alive with our machines. But this is not a risk-free wager. Dr. Paul Mayo, perhaps New York City’s most illustrious critical care doctor expressed the risks pithily: 'putting a person on a ventilator creates a disease known as being on a ventilator.'

When we mechanically blow air into your damaged lungs faster and harder than humanly possible, ventilator-induced lung injury may result. Generally, for a person to tolerate the undertaking, we have to sedate them, leading to immobility and severe weakness. While sedated, the person cannot cough or clear their airway effectively, leading to superimposed bacterial pneumonia. This is an awful lot to survive. And in the case of Covid-19, the preliminary outcome data is rather dismal. On Monday, the New England Journal of Medicine published a case series of very ill Covid-19 patients in Seattle with data up to March 23: of the twenty patients who went on a ventilator, only four had so far escaped the hospital alive. Nine had died. Three remained in suspended animation, going on three or four weeks of ventilation. Four escaped the ventilator but remained in hospital. Data from NHS intensive care units are broadly in line with the Seattle series. As of 27 March, of the UK’s ventilated Covid-19 patients who left ICU, only one-third were alive. Not reported is how many of those made it home.

There has never been a placebo randomised control trial of putting people on ventilators versus letting them struggle on. We therefore do not, strictly-speaking, know whether those who survive their time on ventilator may have survived anyway, or whether some would-be survivors died because they were committed to a ventilator. There will never be such a trial. Sometimes we feel that a person will definitely die immediately if a mechanical ventilator is not applied, and therefore nothing can possibly be lost in the attempt. But mission-creep affects us all. Every clear-eyed critical care doctor will admit that we sometimes ventilate people more out of wishful-thinking, desperation, or fear of lawsuit, than scientifically-based hope for recovery.

I spoke with Dr. Mayo because, as a New York City critical care doctor, he really is in the belly of the beast as far as this pandemic goes in the Anglosphere. (Also, as he is currently home sick with Covid-19, he had plenty of time to talk.) He described increasing pressure from hospital administrators, throughout the city, to put Covid-19 patients on ventilators earlier than would otherwise be recommended. The administrators believe that hooking Covid-19 patients up to a closed-circuit breathing apparatus (i.e. the ventilator) may decrease their infectivity to hospital staff. But does this mean we have the patient's best interests at heart in hooking them up to a ventilator?

To put it simply, we do not know how many lives ventilators could or will save in the UK. It seems that at least two-thirds of attempts to stave off death with their use will fail in the short term. Of the remaining third, we do not know how many will be successful in the medium or long term. This doesn’t quite seem like a convincing rationale to shut down the British economy, redirect previous manufacturing output towards ventilators and suspend civil liberties to give us more time for the attempt. And those bemoaning the government's failure to demand more and more ventilators should pause for a moment and ask themselves whether that is really the right solution.

Matt Strauss is the former medical director of the critical care unit at Guelph General Hospital, Canada. He is now an assistant professor of medicine at Queen’s University
Report GEORGE.B October 16, 2025 4:00 PM BST
* Canadian
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 4:01 PM BST
He is also using his ‘fame’ as a vaccine denier to try to become an MP, sponsored by world class scumbag Elon Musk
Report GEORGE.B October 16, 2025 4:03 PM BST
Early data about ventilators in the "covid" setting:

On Monday, the New England Journal of Medicine published a case series of very ill Covid-19 patients in Seattle with data up to March 23: of the twenty patients who went on a ventilator, only four had so far escaped the hospital alive. Nine had died. Three remained in suspended animation, going on three or four weeks of ventilation. Four escaped the ventilator but remained in hospital. Data from NHS intensive care units are broadly in line with the Seattle series. As of 27 March, of the UK’s ventilated Covid-19 patients who left ICU, only one-third were alive. Not reported is how many of those made it home.

There has never been a placebo randomised control trial of putting people on ventilators versus letting them struggle on. We therefore do not, strictly-speaking, know whether those who survive their time on ventilator may have survived anyway, or whether some would-be survivors died because they were committed to a ventilator.
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 4:04 PM BST
Yeah, hard to believe that using a ventilator would help people with respiratory problems.
Report saddo October 16, 2025 4:07 PM BST
Cider 16 Oct 25 15:45 
covid is real

....................

It is, but vastly different to the 2020 strain, lemmings are still
behaving as though it is the same. Baffling.
Report GEORGE.B October 16, 2025 4:11 PM BST
Try reading the article.

And what's more, claimed at the start of the "pandemic":

Jensen {Sen. Scott Jensen, R-Minn., a physician in Minnesota} said, "Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000."

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 4:16 PM BST
Not sure why you are so bothered about it now, after all you were claiming it was a ‘hoax’ and some sort of evil, globalist, mind control plot, and how about 5G? You forgotten about that?
Report FOYLESWAR October 16, 2025 4:17 PM BST
those at the top made a mint out of it ,let a little dribble down to the plebs to keep em happy !
Report GEORGE.B October 16, 2025 4:22 PM BST
CaptainCristy 16 Oct 25 16:16 
Not sure why you are so bothered about it now, after all you were claiming it was a ‘hoax’ and some sort of evil, globalist, mind control plot, and how about 5G? You forgotten about that?


2025 start date, so what was your username then?

As ever, go and find the relevant posts to see what was actually said, not what you perceive to have been said.
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 4:24 PM BST
You were the very worst conspiracy theorist, don’t try to deny it just because you embarrassed yourself over it.
Report GEORGE.B October 16, 2025 4:27 PM BST
I stand by pretty much by everything I posted, which is why I'm asking you to back up what you claim with actual posts.

But the fact you're 'shy' about admitting what your username was at the time, evidently the same can't be said for yourself.
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 4:28 PM BST
The fact you are having to quote a world leading nutjob is proof enough.
Report Cider October 16, 2025 4:29 PM BST
It is, but vastly different to the 2020 strain, lemmings are still
behaving as though it is the same. Baffling.


Facts (a wonderful oxymoron of a forum handle) is claiming that 227,000...died in the UK from Covid

In spite of crippling the economy, throttling of freedom, ruining millions of peoples' lives (especially youngsters who had no threat at all) adding millions to the waiting lists and at least that amount of people dying due to the mothballing of NHS healthcare in an effort to stop people 'dying from covid'. One wonders how many people it would have killed otherwise...One wonders how much better that £500billion odd could have been spent.
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 4:29 PM BST
Covid aftertimer alert
Report GEORGE.B October 16, 2025 4:34 PM BST
There is more than one medical professional quoted in the article, along with the New England Journal of Medicine.

So, too embarrassed to reveal your previous username and too dopey to read an article properly. Goodbye, you are an idiot.
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 4:36 PM BST
Just in case you were unaware idiot there are a lot of contradicting opinions in medicine, just because you picked out the one you like most of all does not make it correct.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- October 16, 2025 4:39 PM BST
In the week ending 4 July 2025 (Week 27 2025), 10,018 deaths were registered in England and Wales (including non-residents), a decrease from 10,076 in the previous week (Week 26 2025).
The number of deaths registered were 6.0% lower than the expected number (639 fewer deaths).
Influenza or pneumonia were involved in 11.1% of registered deaths (1,117 in total), while 0.5% involved coronavirus (COVID-19) (51 deaths).
Influenza or pneumonia were the underlying cause of 3.0% of deaths (305 deaths), while COVID-19 was the underlying cause of 0.4% of deaths (39 deaths).
Report CLYDEBANK29 October 16, 2025 4:40 PM BST
I haven't practiced what I'm about to preach this year yet, but get yourself the flu jab if it's offered and pay for one if it isn't.  Plenty of other flu strains worse than getting COVID, and who wants to be sick anyway?
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 4:42 PM BST
And if you can’t work out what my username was before you are an even bigger fcukwit than I thought.
Report saddo October 16, 2025 4:46 PM BST
thickerthanwhalesperm?
Report CLYDEBANK29 October 16, 2025 4:48 PM BST
My uncle was a Christian Scientist and dropped down dead one day.  Brainwashed fool thought he could cure himself with positive vibes and wouldn't take medical interventions.  That was 16 years ago.  His elder brother and sister were savvy enough to realise the religion was BS and are still alive today.  The moral of the story is trust medical opinion, not BS.
Report saddo October 16, 2025 4:54 PM BST
Medical opinion and bullshit are not mutually exclusive.
When I grew up they told you to keep burns and scalds dry.
Report elise October 16, 2025 4:56 PM BST
tbf there's been significant medical advances since the 1800s
Report CLYDEBANK29 October 16, 2025 5:02 PM BST
No they are not saddo.  But by the same token Arsenal aren't going to win every match this season.  I'd still rather have my life in the hands of Arsenal than Burnley
Report CLYDEBANK29 October 16, 2025 5:10 PM BST
If you went on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire and asked the audience, if 95% of them went for A and 5% for B, you'd would rightly be considered a tool if you went for B.  But this what hundreds of thousands of people do with their lives.  Some people always go for the 5%, whatever the question.
Report CLYDEBANK29 October 16, 2025 5:13 PM BST
And using the WWTBAM analogy, if the 95% were right 999 times out of a hundred, the 1 time that they were wrong gets repeated and repeated and repeated, and used as evidence that the 95% can't be trusted ever.
Report CLYDEBANK29 October 16, 2025 5:14 PM BST
999 times out of a thousand obv Laugh
Report leif October 16, 2025 5:20 PM BST
Some people always go for the 5%,

Nice try, but that's pure bollix.
Report uptheirons October 16, 2025 5:49 PM BST
I have never understood why people on here continue to argue over Covid as you will never alter a strongly held belief either way
Report CLYDEBANK29 October 16, 2025 5:52 PM BST
A good analogy serves to illustrate a point, not to prove it
Report formoftheace October 16, 2025 5:56 PM BST
The couch and tv mob just love the word covid……a fine excuse nowadays to claim all sorts tbh…..
Report GEORGE.B October 16, 2025 6:11 PM BST
CaptainCristy 16 Oct 25 16:42 
And if you can’t work out what my username was before you are an even bigger fcukwit than I thought.


Sounds like you have a big tip for yourself. Hundreds of people posting on a forum during lockdown, what made you stand out from the crowd?
Report Regbutler October 16, 2025 6:23 PM BST
Gonna give my two penneth on this subject
I'm sure there was something but probably a lot of exaggerating the figures

On holiday earlier this year, met a Welsh man from Cardiff called Steve Jones who spent 65 days on a ventilator in Cardiff hospital in 2020...you can see him on youtube/Google
Try telling him and his family it was a hoax
Conversely, my 60 year old sister sadly passed away in the May of 2020...her organs had basically shut down because of alcohol, so she was obviously susceptible and possibly did get covid, but her death certificate put the cause of death as covid
That was clearly just to bump the numbers up
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 6:26 PM BST
Thanks for chipping in at 4.46 sh11tto, that’s all you ever do though isn’t it you bleedin loser
Report GEORGE.B October 16, 2025 6:33 PM BST
From what I've seen this year, you're an unremarkable poster, but absolutely nothing wrong with, just therefore struggling to see why I should remember you standing out from a crowd of hundreds.

But evidently in your own little mind, you are a standout poster on here and people should be able to figure out your previous username(s).

Well thar ya go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZndVv-jl-U&list=RDiZndVv-jl-U&start_radio=1
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 6:38 PM BST
You are just too thick for words. Anyway, it’ll save you an evening trawling through obsessively.
Report GEORGE.B October 16, 2025 6:40 PM BST
CaptainCristy 16 Oct 25 16:42
And if you can’t work out what my username was before you are an even bigger fcukwit than I thought.


lol.
Report TheBishop October 16, 2025 6:42 PM BST
I suspect he was Mitolo
Report GEORGE.B October 16, 2025 6:45 PM BST
TheBishop, mitolo's literary style and 'use' of the English language would make him a standout poster and easily recognisable.
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 6:48 PM BST
Jeez, it gets worse.
Report impossible123 October 16, 2025 6:48 PM BST
I'd welcome another Covid jab if offered this winter.
Report saddo October 16, 2025 6:56 PM BST
TheBishop 16 Oct 25 18:42 
I suspect he was Mitolo

.........................

mitolo is intelligent, crusty will never be that.
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 7:04 PM BST
He’s not dead you thick cnt Laugh
Report saddo October 16, 2025 7:06 PM BST
I know, that's why I wrote 'is', you abject simpleton.
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 7:09 PM BST
Professor sh1tto the bob a job boy Laugh
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 7:11 PM BST
‘Ere sh1tto, there’s some asylum seekers with a broken bog, do you mind coming to sort it out? While you’re at it give it a clean will ya
Report uptheirons October 16, 2025 7:12 PM BST
The Captain is definitely not Mitolo
Report uptheirons October 16, 2025 7:14 PM BST
However,if he continues in the same manner,he will soon be joining him
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 7:15 PM BST
Well you know bob a job deserves it, poking his nose in.
Report DixieDean60 October 16, 2025 7:28 PM BST
Captain C has the same love and respect for his fellow forum users as Charlie did. 

Surely no coincidence ?
Report uptheirons October 16, 2025 7:32 PM BST
Charlie?
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 7:35 PM BST

Oct 16, 2025 -- 7:28PM, DixieDean60 wrote:


Captain C has the same love and respect for his fellow forum users as Charlie did.

Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 7:35 PM BST
Another chipper innner, sad victim, get over it son.
Report DixieDean60 October 16, 2025 8:38 PM BST
I didn't really think Charlie was that bad CC Grin
Report Shrewd_dude October 16, 2025 9:38 PM BST
He isn't Charlie. Charlie was as mad as a box of frogs but he was never as stupid as Crusty.
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 9:50 PM BST
Another chipper inner, the shrewdturd.
Report CaptainCristy October 16, 2025 9:51 PM BST
Must be doing alright though, i’ve got every rightwing shitthead on the site on my case
Report DixieDean60 October 16, 2025 9:59 PM BST
I concur Shrewd, although his modus operandi is very similar, Charlie wasn't a constant Father Jack tribute act.
Report Shrewd_dude October 16, 2025 10:02 PM BST
Charlie was never as abusive as he is.
Report saddo October 16, 2025 10:02 PM BST
He's more Jay Cartwright than Father Jack.
Report Cider October 16, 2025 10:41 PM BST
I'm sure there was something but probably a lot of exaggerating the figures

On holiday earlier this year, met a Welsh man from Cardiff called Steve Jones who spent 65 days on a ventilator in Cardiff hospital in 2020...you can see him on youtube/Google
Try telling him and his family it was a hoax
Conversely, my 60 year old sister sadly passed away in the May of 2020...her organs had basically shut down because of alcohol, so she was obviously susceptible and possibly did get covid, but her death certificate put the cause of death as covid
That was clearly just to bump the numbers up


For a long time they thought they could get away with reporting anyone who EVER had a positive test as a covid death (ie dying any time after a positive covid test).

It was so sophisticated at the blob that they ran out of space on the Excel workbook they were using to track all things covid Plain, and nobody noticed for over a week Cry

They also made special rules that deaths could be certified as linked to covid with no proof. As an example. And hospitals got more central funding for more covid linked deaths. Now I'm absolutely sure that there was no incentive at all to add people to the covid death count if they were ill with something else, and the hospital couldn't care for them properly as the medics had scarpered.
Report layingisthewayforward October 16, 2025 10:53 PM BST
How the f@ck do they that COVID cases are rising ? Who in their right mind still tests for this?
Report Regbutler October 16, 2025 10:55 PM BST
Cider, you're right, and it's more than annoying if you had some vested interest in the cases
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