not much stops me in my tracks

get em a bag  of those chocolate gold coins this time they'll appreciate em  more at that age better still ask em to swap the gold sovs for for the chocs.

Silver too is going great guns

Now you can pay the insurance on them for christmas.

Make sure they are covered, that's a lot of dosh lying around
and coin collections are usually only covered up to
around 4 grand unless specified.

Take photos of em, keep em on yer phone, just in case
owt happens to em.

the sons got them ,told him before they need insuring separately from the house insurance,but once handed over my work is done, did notice when I first started buying them from that bullion online,that they,ll store them for you after purchase

things can sometimes take a downward turn though,of course thats the caveat.

of course somethings only worth on what price it is the day you sell it

https://jfclassiccars.com/collections/all-cars/products/ice-sierra-rs

was discussing this with my son last night,im really tempted to buy it.

but I do remember saying to my dad this time last yr when they were around 500 quid ,that I wonder if we should stop buying them because their cant be much upside going forward, and there,s a 40% rise in 12 months, the wife says Jesus we said we,d do it till their 18 that's 8 more yrs, will they be a 1000 in 8 yrs time or 200 quid , grandkids wont mind its all profit to them

There are quite a few bullion dealers, and the like, selling coins
There's quite a spread now in prices for sovereigns, so
shop around. Nice to get all the different monarchs
and all the different portraits and all the foreign mints....

One day!!!

All UK gold coins are free from capital gains tax, which
makes them better than foreign gold such as kugerands
and pandas and dollars.

You've done really well for your grandkids, lucky bairns.

ive been tempted as well..followed gold for yrs,but i always think fk it ive missed the boat and money safer in a barclays fixed rate bond 

no CGT on coins.watches,cars etc as well of course

Gold coins are easily sold too, but you'll need to
talk to them about getting fair price and shopping around.

Huge difference between rip off mail off companies
and best price local dealer.

Gold price live

https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/gold-price/gold-price-today/#show-chart

..


And a sov weighs 7.9 grams, it's 22 carat
so 7.3224g of gold... £100.10 per gram currently

So £732 ish...scrap value

And currently somebody like Atkinson bullion is offering £733

https://atkinsonsbullion.com/sell-to-us/gold/gold-coins/gold-sovereign-coins/pre-owned-full-sovereign-gold-coin-mixed-dates

..

And a sov weighs 7.9 grams, it's 22 carat
so 7.3224g of gold...

how isnt it 7.9 grams of gold if weights 7.9?

Where gold price goes is anybody's guess.

Could fall as it did in 80s, or keep going up as
it has with governments printing extra cash.

Buying silver bullion coins you pay vat on top at 20%
so limited interest for me, when you can pick up
a nice Henry 8 coin minted in Durham for around £50.

Only 22 carats so 22/24ths gold

,ll tell you exactly what will happen,I,ll buy them back at buying price rounded up to nearest 1000,

Get in touch with former PM (God forgive us)Gordon Brown. He’s very astute when dealing in Gold.

its just a gamble.

not for my grandkids it isn't ,I,m the one shelling the stake  out every January,biggest certaintity they,ll ever back

'the price'.

strange how it fluctuates..april > aug price slightly dropped..last 2 mths increased 20%.

Rico-Dangleflaps 14 Oct 25 16:47 
And a sov weighs 7.9 grams, it's 22 carat
so 7.3224g of gold...

how isnt it 7.9 grams of gold if weights 7.9



There are other metals within the coin

aye 22/24th's

try and keep up.

£101.35 per gram this morning.

Up 1.25 since yesterday

x 11 sovs x 7.3224g per sov

= another ton in grand bairns pocket.

,
he,s hoping we don't reach 800 quid a sov by Jan, I blame AULD BIG EARS

Rico-Dangleflaps 14 Oct 25 16:20 
https://jfclassiccars.com/collections/all-cars/products/ice-sierra-rs

was discussing this with my son last night,im really tempted to buy it.

.....................

I've been sat in a series 3 E type this morning. Owner reckons it's
price has dropped from 90k to 70 or less. Some bargains about?

I'm also sat here surrounded by coins, trying to catalogue em.
Coins are out of fashion so I might be taking a couple of
kilos of silver to a scrapper.

The chatter is that Rachel from accounts will remove the exempt status for classic cars.

A by-stander (close to a source that doesn't want to be named) confided in the Daily Express that she's also considering a new tax on the purchase of puppies and kittens.

Silver price gone up to around £40 a troy ounce.

The Chinese, however, are paying silly prices for it.
dump it now or wait a few months, hmmm!?

Pre 1920 coins values really need review on coin sites
as even the poor condition ones have gained a lot
of value from silver rises.

Hilarious TM, but I'm reporting the chatter from an industry insider. Perhaps we will be returning to this thread at the end of November.

Undoubtedly - but it's difficult to think of a single "product" or "service" that hasn't been subject to "chatter" - and by "chatter" I mean wild speculation by people with an agenda.

We'll see. There may well eventually be a time where you're correct, and I am wrong.

I think you've got the odds on your side tbf - given that every tax has been subject to "chatter" and wild speculation - and very clearly some of them are going to go up.

If I were to back every horse in a race - I'd probably also be able to claim being on the winner afterwards!

saddo 15 Oct 25 12:47 
I've been sat in a series 3 E type this morning. Owner reckons it's
price has dropped from 90k to 70 or less. Some bargains about?

car prices fluctuate as we know..but top rate classices fords been going through the roof for years.

look at this that sold weeks ago>
https://www.octane-magazine.com/news/mk2-ford-escort-rs1800-sells-for-world-record-276848-at-auction/

todays mail chatter isa cash  allowance cut to 10 grand,, mail/torygraph thrown 100 bits of **** at the wall and ready to say we told you so when only 98 fall on to the floor

Forcing folk to invest £20k tax free in shares alongside their 10k tax free cash.

Maybe 1tp's grandsons will be affected by the lowering
of the limit, when cashing in their sovs.

Farage from the 5th floor has already ditched all his tax cutting policies 3.5 yrs before they were due to come in contact with reality

Rico-Dangleflaps 14 Oct 25 22:52 
aye 22/24th's

try and keep up


22/24th' of 7.9 isn't 7.3224.

hth

-you-have-to-laugh--- 14 Oct 25 16:37 
And a sov weighs 7.9 grams, it's 22 carat
so 7.3224g of gold... £100.10 per gram currently

7.241667

Gold is heavier, more dense, than the metal it is alloyed with.

Figures are correct for gold content and sov weight


The alloy metal has varied somewhat over the years
and is mostly copper now, but has been mixture of copper
and silver, and mainly silver way back when.

Silver is denser than copper, with a density of approximately 10.49g/ccm compared to copper's density of about 8.96 gccm

Could be other stuff used to maintain weight.

The density of pure gold is approximately 19.32g/ccm

So a 1oz silver coin is much bigger than a 1 oz gold coin.

In other words you are wasting your money buying sovereigns when you could be investing in the ‘real’ gold price.

No captain.

Sovs are an excellent investment and readily saleable,

As they are legal tender they carry no capital gains tax.

Some dates are rare and trade at a premium, some were minted
outside of UK and those become sought after too.




You can buy britanias which are also legal tender and 24carat.
1oz, half ounce, 1/4,1/10th and smaller now.

They have never circulated so should all in great condition

Obviously if gold price goes down then most sovereigns will go down accordingly.

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Oct 15, 2025 -- 6:17PM, ----you-have-to-laugh--- wrote:

Obviously if gold price goes down then most sovereigns will go down accordingly.

It depends what you pay for them. There is a price to be paid for having it turned into a coin with many people (as you can see on this thread) believing that the weight of the gold is equivalent to the actual gold price when it isn’t.

*weight of the coin.

If you take coin to sell they will weigh it.

It should be 7.9g,..but dealer knows it's 22k
and if it's wrong weight probably won't take it.

It's easy for punter to not know gold content because
they hadn't been told. And it's not marked on coin.

Some coins print purity and or weight on them but most do not.

small premium for proof sovs/coins sellers  as well

https://www.gold.co.uk/gold-bars/12-5kg-good-delivery-gold-bars/

wonder how many of these they sell

This thread is an exact copy of one from a few months ago - well the op is anyway. i'll post here what i posted then (roughly) and someone might answer.  i've got 63g of. 999.9  (24K) gold that i didn't pay a penny for. gold now worth about 100/g so what do i get if i sold it - and no, its not 63x100 before a smart arse comes in?

24K gold doesn’t exist so you’ll have a job.

I should say, that you won’t get it in jewellery or as a formed object,

years ago  1980s my brother bought some gold looking metal from some youths who he knew (druggies ) for buttons ,no hall marks and very soft like lead ,he took it to  hatton garden  and it turned out it was very  pure fine gold and worth a shyte load more than what he paid for it .

spyker 16 Oct 25 12:43 
This thread is an exact copy of one from a few months ago - well the op is anyway. i'll post here what i posted then (roughly) and someone might answer.  i've got 63g of. 999.9  (24K) gold that i didn't pay a penny for. gold now worth about 100/g so what do i get if i sold it

well the obv answer is 63 x current 24k scrap gold prices £95 ish a gram.

Bullion By Post's latest buy price of a gold sovereign is £716.( 7.3224 pure
gold content).

So 63g = £6,157

Up to 102 per gram, so the grand bairn has another nifty
since yesterday's update.

If you've nicked the gold or it's not hall marked might
effect what you get for it.

If its an old coin in perfect nick you could get 10s of thousands

Givusaclue...

And back down below 800 a sov...

As a person who has admitted to stealing the RP from Bookmakers I find it hard to accept this act of generosity towards others

This deprived someone of something to wipe their rear end with in one of these black hole of calcutta untouched by cleaners for a month toilets.

Bit of a fall today,... time to buy the grand bairns sovs?

dropped £170 an oz since 1am

Russian Roulette,imo.

had previously went from £1200 > £3200 last 5yrs.

I hold the same views on Crapto Currency.
I am happy to let others speculate

summick i nah absolute tele nah fk all about.

I suppose that at least we know that silver exists

Just like gambling, shameful.

6% fall since Tues,
like you say time to get the sovs bought

New record high, grand bairns rubbing hands

Thank you grand dad, insurance premiums up...

905 quid for your sovs today
the DERANGED/SENILE ORANGE BABOON EFFECT

grand bairns rubbing hands?

bee knee skin left on soon.

the new season of THE REAL DEAL on itv has just become a weigh in for people selling all their gold 

You see some of the programmes from a few years back
and see prices

Prices do seem silly high right now, but keep rising.

Silver prices too, there was a thread on here about
face value silver coins being a rip off... Now the £20 coin
scraps at £35, and the £100 coin scraps at £140

REAL DEAL today
another 2 parcels of gold
one went for 4,600 and the other for 14,600
if the info is true both dealers made around 10%, which seems fair enough for putting that much on the table

Repeat - buy silver !

£921 ,can the orange lunatic get it up to a BAG OF SAND

Trump announced new fed chairman, silver went from 120 to 75, gold 5500 to 4800

nuther collapse...

Well done 1tp.

....Yep, the guy on the news said nearly a double figure drop on gold. Some big highs and lows.

ah ha.

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