Mill Reef Sat

will after decs

Don’t think wise approach will run, 3s is huge. Boyles nag is 9/4 for winning poor maiden
If it gets soft you’ll need to get 7, 6 looks as far as rock of thunder wants to go?

Words of truth for me, think he will end up fav, into the sky to drift right out.?

Any race readers on here ??

Only 10 entries. It's been a very poor flat season, and the 2yo's look no different. This looks closer to Listed than Group 2. Leave alone job.

Easier to work then different??

Out

no exchange market & sportsbook have it priced to 154%

even to best prices on oddschecker its 136% so there's no edge playing now even if you are right about WA

Totally agree with dd very poor flat season and virtually impossible to see that changing in the remaining 6 weeks or so.

Yeah wonder, cant see the 114 horse running, 9/4
Into the sky, is crazy, Rock won’t  get 7 if it soft,
Word of truth, they have ducked too at 3s
Decs will be interesting?? Will snap up the 3s if
Wise approach don’t run, as other 2 will drift? ???

In my opinion

Running a 94 horse in a group 2, hmmmm???
It got a tap at Newmarket, and took off a furlong out
Then started pricking it’s ears, looks like there’s more to come??

fair enough GL

I like to see decs & friday's ground before forming a view

if ttt fri night or sat I'll post my view when I've looked over it

Oh I won’t bet before decs?? If wise don’t run
And can get 3 the other godolfin horse, I‘m against
The other 2, lots of rain f/c, not sure the 9/4 and 7/2
Shots will want it soft??

Only two punters on forum have an opinion,
Sorry only one??? Where’s all the race readers

Dangle flaps, do you not get involved pre race??

Ponchos, expecting Rico to have a pre race bet? That's funny

I do offer some pre race opinions but usually on the jumps... Currently looking at Newton Abbot decs for Friday but small fields

Ok Reg

Ponchos, my post was really an attempt to get Rico to bite
He's a good lad and likes the banter
When I said I posted some jumps tips, that is true but I'm not highly successful, probably just like most on here, hit and miss
I do like to focus on a meeting, or a race
Gonna back Roberto Caro at Ayr this weekend, whether he runs in the Gold, Silver or Bronze Gold Cups

Ok, I swerve those sprints, unless the decs are on
Gd gd to firm, with lots of rain f/c, might have a look
Then, but for a score or little more, to pick up some stake money

Just had an expensive two week holiday, looking to get it back

Poncho, as I say, I'm a jumps man, will be at Newton Abbot Friday hopefully
But I do like to have a go in the big flat races, over whatever distance

Where did you go on hols?

Mallorca, port anthraxt, rented a villa at las Brisas, incredible property, but crazy money
Schmachers villa was above us, Theo pafitas and clitchko‘s below us

Nice, is that in the North of the island?
Think I went there for the market? When staying in Alcudia

Ignore that, just asked the missus and she said it was Puerto Pollensa

Sounds like a top notch place

Southwest Reg, 40 mins from airport, about same
To Palma, great spot, great restaurants too. Had
A very expensive day at Nikki beech, in shagaluff,
to old for That ****, tut tut

Magaluf, we went there in a taxi about 20 years ago from our hotel in Palma Nova, just to see what the strip was all about
The looky looky men selling sunglasses in the day were selling drugs at night, it was chaos for us middle aged people... We got a taxi straight back

I will look after final decs as it's pointless to do otherwise without knowing the ground either

It’s good to soft now, will only get softer, unless the weather men
Are talking out of their isobars. Of course you have to wait for decs UTI

Wise approach should be even money shot, offering 3s ?

With lack of decs currently i would hazard a guess something along these lines. If i was a bookie - which im clearly not - id be happy to take on into the sky and would want to keep an eye on rock of thunder and gold queen kindly.

2/1 wise approach
3/1 words of truth
4/1 into the sky
13/2 rock thunder
10/1 gold queen kindly
16/1 watcha snoop
20/1 sands of spain
24/1 ryedale frosty
25/1 flying comet
100/1 kiltrush blue

Only done quickly for a bit of fun without ratings , Decs or going.
Possibly made a rick with with watcha snoop though i feel it won a sub standard race last time using its previous race experience against a small field all making their debuts except for Hungarian who gives the form a very moderate look to it.

Juvenile races by very nature difficult to price up & form a strong opinion. Open to any amount of improvement, still learning, track suitability etc,  too many unknown variables. In running play only.

Neither of godolfins run, tut

On decs tracking both of godolfins, were not in decs
Now words of truth is declared

see boyle has sold of IN TO THE SKY to DOREEN TABOR is that coolmore in all but name ?

heatwave predicted in parts of uk tomorrow

LOL, a heatwave, saw that Tabor bought in,  id imagine
Half share, it was either the best maiden win this season,
Or a very poor maiden by Newbury standards?? Whats your opinion??
A couple that were down the field run today??

2 yr olds arnt my thing i watch but dont punt in them,especially with plenty of  big field handicaps about  to frazzel the brain 

I dont know quite what it will tell us but 6.30 Chelmsford acclaimed freedom is running and he was btn by watcha snoop on debut.
If he wins it tells us nothing as they obviously thought him up to running in a class 2 , and if he gets beat it won't change things either...

I do think that watcha snoop benefited greatly by having experience lto.

call me a cynic but if you have a horse of a lifetime for a small trainer,why would you sell half before its 2nd run

Before it ran, he said he didn’t have the mill reef in mind, it went
Off at 80s too, did he not know what he had, or was it just a weak maiden

6th horse got beat off 56 at Kempten?? 2nd looks a miler ??? Not convinced
But Tabor and his crew must of been impressed??

My posts are going to moderater before been posted.

Whats that about, some gimp upset ?

4 have ran & all been beat.This did win well though.
1ST 4 home strung out aswell.

coolmore are like fergie pep, they can afford to  buy   grealish just in case and leave him rot on bench if it doesnt work out

Good analogy.

Ask the moderator, halfwit.

You dont need to ask the moderator , I can tell you why .
Its to check your post for spelling mistakes.

He only makes them when he’s p I s h e d.  Which is quite often granted.

A largely disappointing field imo

A wise move selling half before it runs imo.
Guarantees the owners won't be left with nowt if it flops , which it could well do, as the trainer doesn't have any experience of training a good horse, without wanting to sound harsh.
And if it turns out to be a world beater they still have 50% to syndicate later on, so a win win.

And the same goes for Tabor. If it flops it was a cheap punt but if it turns out decent, he bought in cheaply.

Personally I feel going down in trip to 6f could be an issue as he could be run off his feet with the likes of Rock on thunder and flying comet who should both jump out trailblaze .

Anyway, we'll see tomorrow, but as irons said earlier,  it is a most uninspiring race. Looks like a very moderate renewal .
.

You just can’t help yourself honcho, can you?
Do yourself a favour, get off the couch and get out
Of your maisonette, and take ya greyhound out for
A walk round, clad did know, you brain dead Welsh gimp

oneten • September 19, 2025 10:31 AM BST
A wise move selling half before it runs imo.

agree

ponchoslament • September 19, 2025 4:06 PM BST
You just can’t help yourself honcho, can you?
Do yourself a favour, get off the couch and get out
Of your maisonette, and take ya greyhound out for
A walk round, clad did know, you brain dead Welsh gimp

uptheirons • September 18, 2025 3:36 PM BST

Somebody may eventually take the time to try to educate you on how BF works for actual punters Delbert.
I have done my best but there is a saying that says,"You can't educate pork".
Never was there a more appropriate saying for  you.
Give the Brixton Bedsit a paint over


uptheirons • July 8, 2025 12:17 AM BST

The Law is the only body to judge crimes you cretinous,whippet bothering moron Honcho.


Striking the similarities shown in the put downs! ;) ;)

Is Sweep ok,Delbert

Even down to making out that you don’t know where he’s from as way of covering your tracks!

uptheirons • July 8, 2025 12:34 AM BST
Strange that you seem obsessed with me when I regard you as a sweaty nonentity


ponchoslament • September 19, 2025 4:06 PM BST
You just can’t help yourself honcho, can you?
Do yourself a favour, get off the couch and get out
Of your maisonette, and take ya greyhound out for
A walk round, clad did know, you brain dead Welsh gimp

Brings in nationality followed by name calling!

So obvious!

You’ll gotta be blind not to realise it!

Both one of the same, not intelligent enough to hide it!

Eventually reverts to type!

Oh dear, on the Spectrum, aka Delashay have now
Arrived, to impart his wisdom

The little paragraphs aren’t misleading, you can’t help yourselves!

Devil is in the detail and your rope has come to its end!

He should be incarcerated in Rampton for  life ,Poncho.
However,the potless non punting ponce cannot post a claimed bet or a P&l.
Perhaps he cannot C&P

Dela, I refuse to get involved with you, you are
Clearly not of sound mind. Gl

I know why because the one time you tried with Honcho and I you made a mug of yourself, same as your other name, when discussing the draw for the Moulin.

Phunchdrunkslament is Iron’s front for talking about races.

At least I have ONE account!

Pinch the p I s h e d mouthing off again.  The empty vessel.

Both the same

The limited imagination shown in the put downs reveals the person. The insults also show the same person!

How is Sweep,Delbert

At least you got put into maisonette with a couch!

I’m in a bedsit in Brixton

As Ally G said, “Is it ‘cos I is Blak?”

Delbert hijacks yet another thread,the potless ponce

ponchoslament • September 19, 2025 4:06 PM BST
You just can’t help yourself honcho, can you?
Do yourself a favour, get off the couch and get out
Of your maisonette, and take ya greyhound out for
A walk round, clad did know, you brain dead Welsh gimp

uptheirons • September 18, 2025 3:36 PM BST

Somebody may eventually take the time to try to educate you on how BF works for actual punters Delbert.
I have done my best but there is a saying that says,"You can't educate pork".
Never was there a more appropriate saying for  you.
Give the Brixton Bedsit a paint over


uptheirons • July 8, 2025 12:17 AM BST

The Law is the only body to judge crimes you cretinous,whippet bothering moron Honcho.


Striking the similarities shown in the put downs! ;) ;)

Even down to making out that you don’t know where he’s from as way of covering your tracks!

uptheirons • July 8, 2025 12:34 AM BST
Strange that you seem obsessed with me when I regard you as a sweaty nonentity


ponchoslament • September 19, 2025 4:06 PM BST
You just can’t help yourself honcho, can you?
Do yourself a favour, get off the couch and get out
Of your maisonette, and take ya greyhound out for
A walk round, clad did know, you brain dead Welsh gimp

Brings in nationality followed by name calling!

So obvious!

The Asylums are full of people with your logic,Delbert
Who knows but one day you might save enough of your Benefits to have a bet

You have as much credibility as Penfold @ Number 10!

Have a good night IronsISpunchdrunk! I’m off to a 26th Birthday do later! ;) ;)

Of course you are ,Delbert.
Is Trump's body guard there

Poor pishto.  Must be a living hell being, ignorant, being wrong, repeatedly soiling oneself and being bitter.
Probably still tees off with a Penfold Comando.  Lives in a world of his own vitriol and verbal urine.

We have had our differnces in the past Honcho but,Delbert is certifiable

You’ve been rumbled!

Punchdrunk wants to eat chips out of Megan Nics’ Nik Niks and he’s obviously getting on, you/he can’t get over that I pulled a 27 year old stunner!

Look at him worm now!

Give ‘em a long rope…..

I rest my case

Carry on worming you’re fooling no one!

Loser uptheirons • September 19, 2025 5:53 PM BST
We have had our differnces in the past Honcho

So touching!

While using your other account to slate the guy!

People like you are a danger to sane people Delbert.
Fortunately,you haven't got a pot to urinate in

Give my regards to Sweep,Delbert,you piece of filth

I hope the minnow trainer wins it even though his charge has been "hijacked" by a constituent of Coolmore. I hope the horse goes on to do better things.

We are powerless to stop Delbert from hijacking the thread,implausible

Favourites flip flopped

ITS looks value personally. Obviously a lot of hype surrounding the horse but no doubt it would be a lot shorter if with one of the top trainers.

The visual impression, very much backed up by the time is undoubtable. I'm not to bothered what was floundering in behind. It's a question of if he regresses from it like some do after that type of debut, but he looked pretty green to me and not gunned for it. Just a natural racehorse, we'll see.

Interestingly, for those impressed with Into the sky first time out,  I have a similar speed figure for 3.50 Stickto your guns .
More than possible that I have made an error, but if i was backing one, id rather be backing stick to your guns in a class 4 at 7/4, than into the sky in a group race.
We will see soon enough

Bad call by barty to say powering away

ffs that looked all over

WOT a winner but a drifter returned 5.2

Commentators curse....

Into The Sky ran well, just no rail to help him. The winner Words Of Truth won on merit though. I think the former will be held up a bit longer esp on soft ground.

What a price for the winner Words Of Truth? 7/2 (more here). I think he was fav antepost.

It came a stride or two early, Buick was still hanging on, the drift didn’t help but he had drifted by the Godolphin colt when making his first run

A bit like Cerebus that, definitely a group 1 horse but done my dosh today

Shoemark not available for the ride? I know he's riding at Ayr but why?

Sep 20, 2025 -- 3:22PM, Whippin Piccadilly wrote:

Shoemark not available for the ride? I know he's riding at Ayr but why?

prioritising ed walker

Makes sense but it would have been nice if could have kept the ride