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stewarty b
04 Sep 25 13:47
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Can be hard to work the night shift but there are plenty of non-handicaps plus the draw can be a huge help. Not only that, spoofing the market is fairly easy if you know the score....

I look at today's racing and it's rancid.

I only started a few nights back and so far....

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Horse Racing: £938.47
Total P&L: £938.47
Horse Racing
Showing 1 - 18 of 18 markets
Market
Start time    Settled date    Profit/Loss (£)
Horse Racing / Mackay (AUS) 4th Sep : R3 1300m Mdn
04-Sep-25 05:20    04-Sep-25 05:23    184.76
Horse Racing / Tamworth (AUS) 4th Sep : R4 1609m Pace M
04-Sep-25 05:12    04-Sep-25 05:15    115.47
Horse Racing / Coffs Harbour (AUS) 4th Sep : R3 1010m CL3
04-Sep-25 05:05    04-Sep-25 05:14    -100.00
Horse Racing / Moe (AUS) 4th Sep : R2 1208m Mdn
04-Sep-25 05:00    04-Sep-25 05:01    203.47
Horse Racing / Port Pirie (AUS) 2nd Sep : R3 1609m Pace M
02-Sep-25 10:24    02-Sep-25 10:30    185.05
Horse Racing / Gloucester Park (AUS) 2nd Sep : R1 2130m Pace M
02-Sep-25 10:17    02-Sep-25 10:20    93.00
Horse Racing / Young (AUS) 2nd Sep : R4 2100m Pace M
02-Sep-25 10:10    02-Sep-25 10:13    -50.00
Horse Racing / Albion Park (AUS) 2nd Sep : R9 1660m Pace M
02-Sep-25 09:02    02-Sep-25 09:04    42.65
Horse Racing / Albion Park (AUS) 2nd Sep : R7 1660m Pace M
02-Sep-25 08:03    02-Sep-25 08:07    193.00
Horse Racing / Goulburn (AUS) 2nd Sep : R6 2240m Pace M
02-Sep-25 06:33    02-Sep-25 06:40    126.15
Horse Racing / Townsville (AUS) 2nd Sep : R4 1000m Hcap
02-Sep-25 06:27    02-Sep-25 06:36    -100.00
Horse Racing / Scone (AUS) 2nd Sep : R4 1100m Mdn
02-Sep-25 06:20    02-Sep-25 06:21    544.33
Horse Racing / Albion Park (AUS) 2nd Sep : R4 2138m Pace S
02-Sep-25 06:12    02-Sep-25 06:15    -173.00
Horse Racing / Nowra (AUS) 2nd Sep : R4 1600m Hcap
02-Sep-25 06:05    02-Sep-25 06:07    -26.86
Horse Racing / Benalla (AUS) 2nd Sep : R5 2100m Hcap
02-Sep-25 06:00    02-Sep-25 06:05    -131.00
Horse Racing / Goulburn (AUS) 2nd Sep : R5 1710m Pace M
02-Sep-25 05:51    02-Sep-25 05:55    231.45
Horse Racing / Scone (AUS) 2nd Sep : R3 1100m Mdn
02-Sep-25 05:40    02-Sep-25 05:41    -300.00
Horse Racing / Albion Park (AUS) 2nd Sep : R3 1660m Pace M
02-Sep-25 05:33    02-Sep-25 05:37    -100.00
Profit and Loss is shown net of commission.

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And when I said in the thread title be cautious by that I mean.....




Horse Racing > Scone (AUS) 2nd Sep : R4 1100m Mdn
Showing 1 - 1 of 1 selections
Selection
Odds    Stake (£)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/Loss (£)
9. Nepo Baby
3.01    300.00    Back   
02-Sep-25 06:18
602.13
*Average odds:  On  Off                   
Back subtotal:    602.13
Lay subtotal:    0.00
Market subtotal:    602.13
CommissionHorse Racing > Scone (AUS) 2nd Sep : R4 1100m Mdn
Showing 1 - 1 of 1 selections
Selection
Odds    Stake (£)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/Loss (£)
9. Nepo Baby
3.01    300.00    Back   
02-Sep-25 06:18
602.13
*Average odds:  On  Off                   
Back subtotal:    602.13
Lay subtotal:    0.00
Market subtotal:    602.13
Commission @ 9.60%:    57.80
Net Market Total:    544.33
Profit and Loss is shown net of commission.

All times are UKT  ?  unless otherwise stated.:    57.80
Net Market Total:    544.33
Profit and Loss is shown net of commission.

All times are UKT  ?  unless otherwise stated.


That's a helluva commission rate which I wasn't aware of so you have to be careful but it's hard to find out what each course charges. I will have to invesigae that beauty but a profit is a profit.

Spread on trolls to post is 4.5-5.5. I would most likely be a buyer...

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By:
longbridge
When: 04 Sep 25 14:00
Commission rate is easy (ish) to find.

Click on the "Rules" button above the market on the desktop site.

Ignore the last line, which tells you about your UK commission rate (misleading I think).

Look at the very top left, and there is a chunky red blob that reads something like "Market Base Rate 8%"

BF put up the commission on Aus Racing years ago to allow for the tax (different between states) charged on Aus horseracing bets.
By:
saddo
When: 04 Sep 25 14:03
With half a yard of afters I'd be a buyer stewy.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 04 Sep 25 14:05
is it profitable backing favs blind in pace races?
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 04 Sep 25 14:06
Backin in every single race......singing when winning
No singing fir months
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 04 Sep 25 14:07
2 races in 1 minute
2 races in 2 minutes
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 04 Sep 25 14:10
Only started a few nites ago.....remember that night last year.....u got drunk  and ure friends started betting on ure account ...
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 04 Sep 25 14:12
well done stewy
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 04 Sep 25 14:12
I'm singing when I win
I'm mute when I don't
I wait till I'm paid
And then I start it all again
By:
s.kenbo
When: 04 Sep 25 14:12
Nine races in an hour! Did you nod off at 6.35am on the 2nd as there was an hour and a half without a bet!

Still one of the best Aftertimers on here!
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 04 Sep 25 14:14
Kenbo nose 2
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 04 Sep 25 14:15
Rico will pisse himself.....10 percent comm
By:
s.kenbo
When: 04 Sep 25 14:17
Hadn’t noticed the commission rate. Wow. Is it worth it compared to bookie odds?
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 04 Sep 25 14:29
I would require hard evidence to believe those figures and none has been provided.
By:
hulk23
When: 04 Sep 25 14:29
been here over 24 years and not noticed the Aussie stuff isn't a viable option given the eyewatering comm rates SillySilly
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 04 Sep 25 14:38
Rico will pisse himself.....10 percent comm

abso pmsl...price for a punter to win long term paying 10% is 17,000,000/1

stewyb thicker tham an eskimo's sock ExcitedLaugh
By:
stewarty b
When: 04 Sep 25 14:48
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I would require hard evidence to believe those figures and none has been provided.





All Transactions
Settled    Ref Id    Placed    Description        Avg. Odds    Stake
Status    DR
(£)    CR
(£)    Balance
(£)
    2025-09-02
08:19    0    2025-09-02
08:19    Card Payment - 30 grand
Withdrawal        -    -    -    (999.00)        165.07
    2025-09-02
08:07    400456329966    2025-09-02
08:04    AUS / Albion Park (AUS) 2nd Sep/ 17:03 R7 1660m Pace M
Commission of 7.68% on Net Winnings of GBP209.06        -    -    -    (16.06)        1,164.07
    2025-09-02
08:07    400456329966    2025-09-02
08:04    AUS / Albion Park (AUS) 2nd Sep/ 17:03 R7 1660m Pace M / 9. Jensville
Back        2.22    171.00    Won        209.06    1,180.13
    2025-09-02
06:40    400453457106    2025-09-02
06:33    AUS / Goulburn (AUS) 2nd Sep/ 15:33 R6 2240m Pace M
Commission of 7.68% on Net Winnings of GBP136.64        -    -    -    (10.49)        971.07
    2025-09-02
06:40    400453457106    2025-09-02
06:33    AUS / Goulburn (AUS) 2nd Sep/ 15:33 R6 2240m Pace M / 2. Highlands Warrior
Back        1.56    244.00    Won        136.64    981.56
    2025-09-02
06:36    400453221155    2025-09-02
06:26    AUS / Townsville (AUS) 2nd Sep/ 15:27 R4 1000m Hcap / 3. Mr Polar
Back        4.81    100.00    Lost    (100.00)        844.92
    2025-09-02
06:21    400453003830    2025-09-02
06:18    AUS / Scone (AUS) 2nd Sep/ 15:20 R4 1100m Mdn
Commission of 9.6% on Net Winnings of GBP602.13        -    -    -    (57.80)        944.92
    2025-09-02
06:21    400453003830    2025-09-02
06:18    AUS / Scone (AUS) 2nd Sep/ 15:20 R4 1100m Mdn / 9. Nepo Baby
Back        3.01    300.00    Won        602.13    1,002.72
    2025-09-02
06:15    400452859545    2025-09-02
06:13    AUS / Albion Park (AUS) 2nd Sep/ 15:12 R4 2138m Pace S / 6. Hot And Treacherous
Back        3.36    173.00    Lost    (173.00)        400.59
    2025-09-02
06:07    400452630204    2025-09-02
06:04    AUS / Nowra (AUS) 2nd Sep/ 15:05 R4 1600m Hcap / 3. Heron
Back        2.82    26.86    Lost    (26.86)        573.59
    2025-09-02
06:05    400452527048    2025-09-02
06:00    AUS / Benalla (AUS) 2nd Sep/ 15:00 R5 2100m Hcap / 5. Top Arctic
Back        5.20    31.00    Lost    (31.00)        600.45
    2025-09-02
06:05    400452407729    2025-09-02
05:56    AUS / Benalla (AUS) 2nd Sep/ 15:00 R5 2100m Hcap / 5. Top Arctic
Back        4.40    100.00    Lost    (100.00)        631.45
    2025-09-02
05:55    400452289369    2025-09-02
05:52    AUS / Goulburn (AUS) 2nd Sep/ 14:51 R5 1710m Pace M
Commission of 7.84% on Net Winnings of GBP251.14        -    -    -    (19.69)        731.45
    2025-09-02
05:55    400452289369    2025-09-02
05:52    AUS / Goulburn (AUS) 2nd Sep/ 14:51 R5 1710m Pace M / 3. Our Ultimate Bonny
Back        2.26    200.00    Won        251.14    751.14
    2025-09-02
05:51    0    2025-09-02
05:51    Card Payment - 30 grand
Deposit        -    -    -        500.00    500.00
    2025-09-02
05:41    400451891869    2025-09-02
05:38    AUS / Scone (AUS) 2nd Sep/ 14:40 R3 1100m Mdn / 6. Autumn King
Back        1.37    300.00    Lost    (300.00)        0.00
    2025-09-02
05:37    0    2025-09-02
05:37    Card Payment - 30 grand
Deposit        -    -    -        100.00    300.00
    2025-09-02
05:37    400451793746    2025-09-02
05:34    AUS / Albion Park (AUS) 2nd Sep/ 14:33 R3 1660m Pace M / 6. Tiger Band Wagon
Back        3.15    100.00    Lost    (100.00)        200.00
    2025-09-02
05:31    0    2025-09-02
05:31    Card Payment - 30 grand
Deposit        -    -    -        300.00    300.00
By:
JohnnyValentine
When: 04 Sep 25 14:49
stewarty b "I look at today's racing and it's rancid".

And yet you happily punt your giro on dog tracks such as Albion Park and Goulburn? Have you no shame?

Take that good Maiden just now at Haydock where I cleaned up laying the favourite. Plus I had a lie in this morning and still had time to bang the wife at the same time you were fretting about paying 10% on your imaginary winnings.
By:
stewarty b
When: 04 Sep 25 14:50
It's all about the spoofing. (In certain races)
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 04 Sep 25 14:54
Do one of these and do it quickly so no time to doctor



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By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 04 Sep 25 14:57
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By:
top2rated
When: 04 Sep 25 15:00
The Cardinal originally omitted the opening [ when posting the image link.

He's wasn't gleaming

Laugh
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 04 Sep 25 15:02
John valentine can spot one and he only join the site a few months ago
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 04 Sep 25 15:02
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 04 Sep 25 15:03
Imagine if cardinal could deposit 50k
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 04 Sep 25 15:05
I just backed priestess.....I fancy a wee song
By:
stewarty b
When: 04 Sep 25 15:07
My spread was spot on and probably treble if you count Freddie the dreamer with his obsession.
By:
stewarty b
When: 04 Sep 25 15:10
At least rico knows the score. He knows genuine bets when he see's them or he would have pulled me up. Not singing steve, just letting some know that I can spoof some markets with low liquidity.
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 04 Sep 25 15:13
Who remembers that early morning last year.....
Stew had a party.....he was punting aussy pace sneak ily
In the corner
A few buckies later he was in corner passed out....
His party guests switched on his monitor.......
Lost a lot of stews pip payments very quickly
Stew woke up.....
Everyone gone and zero in balance
Was a cracker party though
By:
stewarty b
When: 04 Sep 25 15:15
Should have made a market for the biggest troll to appear but I doubt anyone would even be bothered trying to steal a copper at 1.01..
By:
stewarty b
When: 04 Sep 25 15:16
Sorry FOYLES, missed your post. Thanks.
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 04 Sep 25 15:19
Rico remembers
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 04 Sep 25 15:31
If enuff people want the evidence.....will send private eye Rico to get it.....
Type
YES
If u want proof
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 04 Sep 25 15:35
stewarty b 04 Sep 25 15:10 
At least rico knows the score. He knows genuine bets when he see's them or he would have pulled me up. Not singing steve, just letting some know that I can spoof some markets with low liquidity.


cant spoof me stewy..you're an addict who fcks off when loosing and re-appears when a night of degen betting pays off.
By:
stewarty b
When: 04 Sep 25 15:39
steve, haven't been betting due to a bereavement. Sometimes sh1t happens.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 04 Sep 25 15:40
post last 30 days stew..simple enuff to proove.
By:
stewarty b
When: 04 Sep 25 15:42
Last 30 Days

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2025-08-04 15:41

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2025-09-04 15:41

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Greyhound Racing: -£100.00 |
Horse Racing: -£247.53
Total P&L: -£347.53
Greyhound Racing
Showing 1 - 1 of 1 markets
Market
Start time    Settled date    Profit/Loss (£)
Greyhound Racing / Central Park 5th Aug : HC 491m
05-Aug-25 18:31    05-Aug-25 18:33    -100.00
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By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 04 Sep 25 16:16
a loss?  Cilla Black eh.😆
By:
stewarty b
When: 04 Sep 25 16:25
At least I'm honest steve. That figure would be approx. 1k worse had it not been for my Aussie adventure.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 04 Sep 25 16:43
im aware of what -347 & -1000 is.
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