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20 Aug 25
15:27
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Initially had Ombudsman down as the good thing of the meeting but I noticed this will be his first time racing left handed. No reason why he shouldn't be equally as good racing this way but still, quite interesting I thought. Still used him as the first leg of a York L15.
Any thoughts on the race lads?
Any thoughts on the race lads?
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*Juddmonte even!
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Think the Japanese horse will take the beating
race fitness is a worry but it looked good at Meydan gl chaps  |
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Delacroix to confirm the form for me.
who knows what to expect from the Japanese horse. |
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u wouldn't be too surprised at another "York horse " Segal mentioned last night some act on the surface and some it's wheelspin.
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He did look good in Meydan NEC. Calandgan was prob a touch under par that day but he did win very well.
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Japanese horse for me as well, medium stakes
Gl all |
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**** horse getting a bit lit up at start not the best sign...
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Danon Decile for me also
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got the tactics right today
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Ombudsman....impressive !
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Did the pacemaker run out of petrol or did Havlin panic when he realised he might win?
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Impressive.
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Pacemaker, Birr Castle, prices for those looking later
2.86 £10.00 2.94 £1.00 2.96 £1.00 3 £2,054.44 3.05 £387.05 3.1 £1,776.80 3.15 £2,472.59 3.2 £514.27 3.25 £220.04 3.3 £467.36 3.35 £304.23 3.4 £111.85 3.45 £155.84 3.5 £144.41 3.55 £556.17 3.6 £131.40 3.65 £392.00 3.7 £114.92 3.75 £541.27 3.8 £132.63 3.85 £94.76 3.9 £279.88 3.95 £189.03 4 £612.07 4.1 £470.28 4.2 £329.03 4.3 £466.28 4.4 £112.34 4.5 £223.29 4.6 £61.88 4.7 £558.34 4.8 £229.84 4.9 £124.69 5 £1,684.82 5.1 £1,019.65 5.2 £373.57 5.3 £198.76 5.4 £228.08 5.5 £324.72 5.6 £222.60 5.7 £683.60 5.8 £250.43 5.9 £111.99 6 £578.45 6.2 £242.62 6.4 £311.81 6.6 £243.71 6.8 £149.40 7 £463.36 7.2 £83.40 7.4 £180.05 7.6 £132.89 7.8 £153.29 8 £164.56 8.2 £96.41 8.4 £251.72 8.6 £84.90 8.8 £102.37 9 £164.16 9.2 £158.18 9.4 £112.46 9.6 £111.17 9.8 £98.18 10 £367.11 10.5 £217.70 11 £276.37 11.5 £119.73 12 £183.13 12.5 £120.05 13 £155.66 |
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240/1 BSP
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I thought the pacesetter would hold on; the others were so far back.
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well done WP
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Would connections be tempted to go for the Arc after that? The Champion stakes does look the better fit but I think the Arc looks a very winnable race for horse with the class of this lad
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I had a little bit for fun on Birr Castle after the other recent pacemaker upsets - traded out IR but only down to 100 - I wasn't expecting him to go that close or short.
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I layed Quirat at Goodwood and I had laid Birr Castle today and I was thinking "Oh not again". I think Buick and others got luckier today.
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N-east Correspondent 20 Aug 25 15:30
Think the Japanese horse will take the beating race fitness is a worry but it looked good at Meydan tailed off. |
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Cheers NEC. Good start to the L15. Also threw a quid on him IR
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objection by the clerk of the scales to M Barcelona.
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Did win @ Longchamp last year,10F though.
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The Japanese horse was very keen to Post
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That's the issue, would the trip stretch him and blunt his turn of foot? But he wasn't stopping today or at Ascot, he actually won going away that day.
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Well played Whippin
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He is the outstanding 10f horse of the season.
Irish Champion next? Maybe Coolmore will try Whirl against him there? |
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well done whippin
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WD Whippin.
I did wonder why Godolphin with another 130 horses in training in the UK had to bring a pacemaker from France. Gave everyone a fright from a typical Havlin ride. As Ramruna said, did he panic? |
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@ramruma
"Did the pacemaker run out of petrol or did Havlin panic when he realised he might win?" Ran out of petrol I think, judging by sectionals on Racing UK - Ombudsman and Delacroix began closing him down after 6f. https://www.racingtv.com/results/2025-08-20/york/1535 |
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"Did the pacemaker run out of petrol or did Havlin panic when he realised he might win?"
20L clear 3f out..5L clear 1f out..wd lads for realising. |
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To think the well beaten Godolphin colt outworked the pacemaker!
 Delashay • July 25, 2025 9:35 AM BST Cualificar has worked well under Goyen ahead of the Deauville Group 2, went with Birr Castle and easily went by over 1,800. |
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It was fairly close to another Gp 1 embarrassment for the principal runners and jockeys; Havlin and Birr Castle nearly nicked it, I believe. Even though beaten and finished 3rd, the other jockeys allowed Havlin too much of a soft lead - I hope the data eg ratings supports it.
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